Classic At Newport

[Steve Shovlar]

I remember Tim Stone explaining to me and my father that no other club would host the event because of the threat of bad weather, as well as most clubs not being able to run the meeting.

 

Tim took the chance on hosting the meeting year on year. Poole had it last year no problems with that as when they were confirmed to be running it, Newport's future was still in doubt.

 

If Poole are that desparate, apply for the December or Febuary meeting instead.

 

Newport started the event, no body else wanted to know until last year.

 

I am not advocating Poole running it. Just share it around clubs who do want to run it. There's no reason why it should be at Newport every year.

[Dietbowers]

I am not advocating Poole running it. Just share it around clubs who do want to run it. There's no reason why it should be at Newport every year.

Stop it,my ribs are hurting

It`s an individual meeting that`s been held at Newport bar one year when the club was in a state of flux.

Are you honestly telling me and many others that other tracks individual meetings should be held at different tracks around the country?

I can`t see many people travelling all the way up to Scotland to watch Poole`s Blue Riband trophy

 

[colincooke]

Stop it,my ribs are hurting

It`s an individual meeting that`s been held at Newport bar one year when the club was in a state of flux.

Are you honestly telling me and many others that other tracks individual meetings should be held at different tracks around the country?

I can`t see many people travelling all the way up to Scotland to watch Poole`s Blue Riband trophy

 

all i can say DB is that the Shovlar household must be dire need of air freshener with all that's come out of poor man's backside.

Edited January 6, 2010 by colincooke

[father jack]

Steve, you never answered my earlier point, I asked that if Poole had come up with the idea of a January meeting that was a gamble and a success would you still be so keen to have it shared around ?

 

Somehow I dont think your views would be the same would they ?

[Blazeaway]

Why is there only one meeting allowed per off season month?

[colincooke]

Why is there only one meeting allowed per off season month?

 

 

so as daft people can ask daft questions.

[Blazeaway]

so as daft people can ask daft questions.

 

Been at the sherry again?

[Steve Shovlar]

Steve, you never answered my earlier point, I asked that if Poole had come up with the idea of a January meeting that was a gamble and a success would you still be so keen to have it shared around ?

 

Somehow I dont think your views would be the same would they ?

 

 

I don't see why not. A winter meeting should be shared around. Let fans around the country get the opportunity to watch the winter meeting on their home track. Why not in 2011 have it at Eastbourne or Lakeside? Then in 2012 in Manchester or Sheffield?( Who used to run it before Newport anyway)

 

I am not saying bring it back to Poole. Share it around. It's only fair.

[Steve Shovlar]

I am most certainly not bitter at all!

 

Sheffield ran the winter meeting before Newport. Why shouldn't they have it back?

[Pinny]

Sheffield ran the winter meeting before Newport. Why shouldn't they have it back?

What year did they last run the event?

[BigFatDave]

Tim Stone had the balls to stage the event every winter when nobody else was bothered about it. This meeting should be left at Newport every January in honour of the man who brought the event to the club in the first place in 1998 and held it every single year until his death.

Couldn't agree more.

[NWS]

Seems like more people want it to stay at Newport! It's only right though.

 

As if the BSPA will listen to a small number of, (as Wanna nicely put) Bitter supporters.

 

If your not happy with it being at Newport then don't bother going, if it's the 'fair' and 'right' thing to do that it to be passed around then surely the majority of supporters will agree and not turn up. Meaning the Mallets will lose too much money to keep running it and have no choice but to pass it on? Yet Newport keep getting bumper crowds for this meeting so it must be OK, OK?

[colincooke]

Seems like more people want it to stay at Newport! It's only right though.

 

As if the BSPA will listen to a small number of, (as Wanna nicely put) Bitter supporters.

 

If your not happy with it being at Newport then don't bother going, if it's the 'fair' and 'right' thing to do that it to be passed around then surely the majority of supporters will agree and not turn up. Meaning the Mallets will lose too much money to keep running it and have no choice but to pass it on? Yet Newport keep getting bumper crowds for this meeting so it must be OK, OK?

 

 

The one that is whining on about it never does go, 2009 apart of course.

They'd know that all that is said here is correct if they did would they not.

Edited January 7, 2010 by colincooke

[Pinny]

My question on when Sheffield last hosted the classic has still not been answered?

 

 

[uk_martin]

Sheffield ran the winter meeting before Newport. Why shouldn't they have it back?

Sheffield and Poole can happily manage without a mid winter meeting. One gets the impression that the NYC and the (post Grand Prix) Welsh Open are two key meetings that ensure tha financial stability of Newport. Take one of its key "earners" away from it and you could lose Newport from the sport. Don't think anyone would want that would they?

[lucifer sam]

My question on when Sheffield last hosted the classic has still not been answered?

 

Wasn't that a Boxing Day meeting or something - and was therefore the "December" meeting instead of the "January" meeting. Held in the mid 1990s I think - we were there.

 

All the best

Rob

[lucifer sam]

I am not advocating Poole running it. Just share it around clubs who do want to run it. There's no reason why it should be at Newport every year.

 

Steve, because the "New Year Classic" was the invention of the former Newport promoter and this meeting, along with the post-Cardiff Welsh Open, help to keep the track going.

 

All the best

Rob

 

[Mr Ore]

My question on when Sheffield last hosted the classic has still not been answered?

 

I'll try not to adopt the stereotypical pedant stance, expected of forum members, but will confirm that Sheffield did indeed stage a Christmas meeting, won by Kelvin Tatum, in the early 1990s. I know as I was there, although without digging out old programmes I don't have the actual date. I reckon either 1993 or 4 but don't quote me.

 

Ironically the powers that be refused to sanction a close season conventional speedway meeting so technically it is not the same. However it should be. Tim Lucking asks to stage a speedway meeting over the close season and is turned down. Several years later Tim Stone asks the same question and is approved. It could be argued therefore that Newport "borrowed" Sheffield's idea and therefore Owlerton should have been given the opportunity to run this meeting as it was initially the Tigers' promotion's idea.

 

Where the pedants will have a field day however is that whilst the meeting was run it was not called speedway. It also incorporated a mix of speedway riders and road racers riding moto cross machines and although raced on the full speedway track had two ramps which the bikes had to jump over to make it totally different to conventional speedway. Clearly speedway machines don't have the scope to incorporate jumps so that is why moto cross bikes were used. Although used to handling greater speed the road boys, and there were several top names of the time there, did not have the same ability to get on a full skid round the corners which is where Kelvin came good. I suppose the nearest, without the jumps, I have seen to this on a regular basis is the excellent sand track racing held at Mablethorpe (I should get something from them for such a plug).

 

So as Sheffield were the first to ask to stage a convetional out of season meeting (or was it Ellesmere Port?) maybe they should be given the opportunity to have it raced there as the sole remaining track to have actually proposed such a meeting. The Owlerton Mistletoe And Auld Lang Syne Never Held Before But Still Called A Classic meeting just trips off the tongue. Guaranteed to get a crowd bigger than a bumper one too.

[Pinny]

I don't think the argument that if Newport didn't have the New Year Classic or Welsh open, they were fold, holds much water personally. As I have said so many times, a successful team in Newport will bring the fans flocking back. Looks as if this years team could be alot better than previous years, so lets hope its the case.

 

Anyway, back on topic.

 

Sheffield hosted the event a good 4/5 years before Newport then. Something was obviously wrong as they wouldn't decline Sheffield hosting the event (who had, I presume, successfully held it already?) and then let Newport run it.

 

Maybe Tim Stone did take their idea then. But this was a few years after Sheffield had held there event. If Newport didn't host the event for 4/5 years, then any club obviously has a right to have it.

 

But Newport have consistently run the meeting since 1998 year on year, barring last year of course which was because of the death of our promoter.

 

Other clubs are allowed to host the meetings. Scunthorpe hosted theres in December and Kings Lynn were allowed to host one in February, but chose not to with the weather and lack of riders.

 

The New Year Classic in January should be left at Newport for as long as the promotion want in honour of Tim Stone. The man who brought this event to Newport in the first place and made such a success of it.

[tanya]

How many tracks would be able to have full access to the track weeks before the meeting to get it prepared. The Newport track preparation went on for weeks because of the weather situation. At least with Newport they have full access to the track whereas others would not? Would tracks that depend on renting the facilities still have the same access as Newport have?