Phlipphlopp Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Theres bound to be at least one Brit in the GP's , but why , oh why can none of them ever gate consistently or have quick machinery ? When was the last time we had a brit who could gate like a ferret with his arse on fire , and have speed to match ? Take Nicholls and Harris , both have talent, but cant gate for toffee.Surely , if it were you or me with their talent , wouldnt you spend every spare hour(if they have any), trying different things to improve their starting techniques, set ups etc ? Or , because they are so busy , is it a case of they dont care because they are earning good cash as it is ? Even Loram , who won the World Championship without winning a GP, was a crap gater(effing fab from the back tho).I think our up and coming riders need to master the art of gating first, and be consistent at it , beacause if they dont , GB riders will be in the wilderness for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Just my opinion, but if I was the FIM and they wanted 2 Brits in the GP I'd do this:- Have the British Riders Championship on Wednesday 10th March 2010 at Peterborough, top two to qualify for the GP series, 3 & 4 reserves for the British GP. 1, Lee Richardson 2, Scott Nicholls 3, Chris Harris 4, Simon Stead 5, Edward Kennett 6, Oliver Allen 7, Lewis Bridger 8, Tai Woffinden 9, Daniel King 10, James Wright 11, James Grieves 12, Ben Barker 13, Jordon Frampton 14, Joe Haines 15, Robert Mear 15, Andrew Tully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimbledonDon Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Theres no way Bomber or Nicholls should get into the Gp's (Except if bomber gets in through the GP qualifier.) Sadly i fear for Rico because if Harris gets in through the GP challenge then perhaps Rico won't get a nomination, and the FIM may still give Harris the british nomination (if we get one!) When really, Rico deserves the brit place, because he's the top brit in the world - sure he didn't win the british championship, but he's the most consistant... top leagues in all countries he rides in and has an 8+ average in each league, whereas Harris rides top league britain, sweden and second league in poland.... not to mention Rico can beat some of the top guys week in week out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Theres no way Bomber or Nicholls should get into the Gp's (Except if bomber gets in through the GP qualifier.) Sadly i fear for Rico because if Harris gets in through the GP challenge then perhaps Rico won't get a nomination, and the FIM may still give Harris the british nomination (if we get one!) When really, Rico deserves the brit place, because he's the top brit in the world - sure he didn't win the british championship, but he's the most consistant... top leagues in all countries he rides in and has an 8+ average in each league, whereas Harris rides top league britain, sweden and second league in poland.... not to mention Rico can beat some of the top guys week in week out.... Only this season has Richardsson become so consistent. I'd swap him for Nicholls and give Harris another go. Ideally the 2010 line-up would be 1. Jason Crump 2. Tomasz Gollob 3. Greg Hancock 4. Emil Sayfutdinov 5. Andreas Jonasson 6. Nicki Pedersen 7. Kenneth Bjerre ... 2nd at Brandon 8. Freddie Lindgren ... 3rd at Brandon 9. Rune Holta 10. Hans Andersen 11. Jarek Hampel ... 1st at brandon 12. Chris Holder (Wild Card) 13. Chris Harris (Wild Card) 14. Lee Richardsson (Wild Card) 15. Matej Zagar (Wild Card) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 i agree with the list above but would swop harris for woffinden.i dont think tai would be any further off the pace than harris.not sure if richardson will get in cuz of his age so could be harris and tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedUnitedUnited Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Only this season has Richardsson become so consistent. I'd swap him for Nicholls and give Harris another go. Ideally the 2010 line-up would be 1. Jason Crump 2. Tomasz Gollob 3. Greg Hancock 4. Emil Sayfutdinov 5. Andreas Jonasson 6. Nicki Pedersen 7. Kenneth Bjerre ... 2nd at Brandon 8. Freddie Lindgren ... 3rd at Brandon 9. Rune Holta 10. Hans Andersen 11. Jarek Hampel ... 1st at brandon 12. Chris Holder (Wild Card) 13. Chris Harris (Wild Card) 14. Lee Richardsson (Wild Card) 15. Matej Zagar (Wild Card) agree with all of those, just hope rune stays in the GP's as read somewhere he is tempted to quit the GP's as its not worth it for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 In all honesty i think its the best thing that could happen for Scott, The gp's are just a financial drain from what they say unless you are in the top few. You can count on 1 hand the top guys for the next few seasons. Emil has showed that age isnt a problem and it may bring Tai on a bit. The problem i have with the gp's is that you know its going to be Crump and Pedersen and maybe 1 or 2 will get close to them, after that its just a competition to try and finish in the top 8 so you can try again the following season ....to get in the top 8 There are far to many average riders and the wild cards are stupid (apart from Scotty fopr cardiff next season). So i say Harris and Tai for 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Big fan of Tai's he certainly has the skill and he can gate (must be the aussie in him) but i think he shouldn't be considered for the GP's yet until he either is a wild card at the British GP or is a few more years older. He's doing well over here and in the other countries but i think he needs to continue as he is for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shocker Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I think both british riders in the grand prix need to take a year out neither have been good enough ... but they just dont have the experiance in there team . harris for example had such a good team in 2007 and there knowledge showed where as he doesnt have either and he struggled since ... as for nicholls he seems to swap his team more often than not and must be unsettling ... is just my opinion but i think they both need a year awayy to come back stronger .. personnally i would go for kennet and woffindon and give them a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I think both british riders in the grand prix need to take a year out neither have been good enough ... but they just dont have the experiance in there team . harris for example had such a good team in 2007 and there knowledge showed where as he doesnt have either and he struggled since ... as for nicholls he seems to swap his team more often than not and must be unsettling ... is just my opinion but i think they both need a year awayy to come back stronger .. personnally i would go for kennet and woffindon and give them a chance Kennett? seriously? Regarding Tai, he is a very good talent but i think he needs a few more years of league racing experience before he could do himself justice in a full GP season. The only Brit at the moment who are GP material is Lee Richardson who is riding very well in all the major leagues and i hope thet he will get a WC for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Just my opinion, but if I was the FIM and they wanted 2 Brits in the GP I'd do this:- Have the British Riders Championship on Wednesday 10th March 2010 at Peterborough, top two to qualify for the GP series, 3 & 4 reserves for the British GP. 1, Lee Richardson 2, Scott Nicholls 3, Chris Harris 4, Simon Stead 5, Edward Kennett 6, Oliver Allen 7, Lewis Bridger 8, Tai Woffinden 9, Daniel King 10, James Wright 11, James Grieves 12, Ben Barker 13, Jordon Frampton 14, Joe Haines 15, Robert Mear 15, Andrew Tully Always believed in qualification, not nomination I believe that a British Championship has been held, at Poole, and the winner was Chris Harris and the runner-up Edward Kennett On this basis, therefore, Bomber and Ed should be the two Brits in next year's GP series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Always believed in qualification, not nomination I believe that a British Championship has been held, at Poole, and the winner was Chris Harris and the runner-up Edward Kennett On this basis, therefore, Bomber and Ed should be the two Brits in next year's GP series Don't think Ed has done anything near enough to be gifted a spot. Didn't even get through his initial qualifier and his form in the major leagues is inferior to Richardson. Bit hard to second guess the nominations prior to the GP challenge, because the qualifiers at Coventry and indeed the top 8 at the end of the season will have a lot of bearing over who gets picked. Its possible that of the 11 who qualify by right then there may be only 1 Pole (Gollob) so at least 2 of the nominations would almost certainly be handed their way. Which leaves it less likely there may be 2 Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Don't think Ed has done anything near enough to be gifted a spot. Didn't even get through his initial qualifier and his form in the major leagues is inferior to Richardson. But if the British Championship is the qualifier, as suggested, Ed makes it as second-placed rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Apparently on Polsat monday night it was said that if Bomber doesn't make it through the GP Challenge then Tai will get a Wildcard.How much truth the Polish journo knows remains to be seen.But........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 But if the British Championship is the qualifier, as suggested, Ed makes it as second-placed rider You are supposing there "has" to be 2 British riders. Surely if they are not up to the standard of the other 13 there is no point having them! Why should the British Championship be the qualifier? The rest of the world has to compete against each other to get a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) You are supposing there "has" to be 2 British riders. Surely if they are not up to the standard of the other 13 there is no point having them! Why should the British Championship be the qualifier? The rest of the world has to compete against each other to get a spot. Don't ask me ! It was a suggestion by "screamer" All I've done is show who would have qualified under that scenario Mind you, the Brits used to qualify (generally) by themselves, the continentals via European/Continental/Nordic/whatever qualifiers, for the PROPER World Championship Edit : Yes, I know, the ANZACs were with the Brits too - but we had more than two qualifiers! Edited September 9, 2009 by Midland Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I just hope Tai wins the World U21 final at least then they can use that as the reason he is seeded into the GP's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I just hope Tai wins the World U21 final at least then they can use that as the reason he is seeded into the GP's... Would certainly give him an improved case, but its a tough ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I just hope Tai wins the World U21 final at least then they can use that as the reason he is seeded into the GP's... And completely destroy the boy, yeah great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I just hope Tai wins the World U21 final at least then they can use that as the reason he is seeded into the GP's... He already has enough qualifications to be in there next season British U18 Champion, British U21 Champion, PLRC Champion, Average 7.47 in his first EL season (8.36 with BP) and unlike Harris, Nicholls and Richardson, he hasn't tried and tried and tried and failed virtually every GP ! Tai for me should be the only British GP rider in 2010 with Bomber as the Cardiff Wild Card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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