Phil The Ace Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 im sick of all this slating british riders so heres my view on things to me i feel really sorry for them both, nicholls is alot better rider than his scores suggewst, hes just had a couple of duff years, he needs a few years away from the GP series and come back a better stronger rider, just likle lee richardson, look how good hes riding now after a few years away from the big time. i feel really sorry for him especially half way through the season when he looked so dejected and diddnt know why he couldnt even score a point, he now klnows hes not going to be in the GP series next year so is calm and relaxed. regarding harris well his biggest down fall is Ole Olsen, harris is a rider who cant gate but probably is the best rider when behind, the tracks are to slick for a rider like harris, hopefully with this being olsens last year we may see harris in the top 8 next year if oles replacment sorts the tracks out and puts shale on them. i rate all british riders and there the 1st i support in GPs, we need to get behing our own riders and not against them, afterall its them that will bring home a world title to this country. for me next year the 2 wildcards should be harris and lee richardson/tai woffinden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUDGIE Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 im sick of all this slating british riders ..... to me i feel really sorry for them both, nicholls is alot better rider than his scores suggewst, ...... regarding harris well his biggest down fall is Ole Olsen, harris is a rider who cant gate but probably is the best rider when behind, i rate all british riders and there the 1st i support in GPs, we need to get behing our own riders and not against them, afterall its them that will bring home a world title to this country. for me next year the 2 wildcards should be harris and lee richardson/tai woffinden Agree with most of this Phil, however cant agree that even with shale that Harris would be any better, it is one thing passing Nicolai Klindt and Cam Woodward from the back (no offence to either of them intended) but it is a totally different propostion to pass Crump, Pedersen, Hancock, and on the evidence of last night even Ulamek once they are out of the traps! What Harris needs to do is find a way of getting out of the gate! (although that might make things a bit boring!), and that is in his own hands not any track preperation guys! Cheers K PS Thought it was boring last night!, title chase is over and I thought no edge to the meeting, perhaps its just me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Isn't it just the case that they aren't good enough. Harris was passed with ease by Crump and Holta in one race last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Isn't it just the case that they aren't good enough. Harris was passed with ease by Crump and Holta in one race last night. harris could barley keep on the same lap as crump even at coventry, so dirt and home track advantage still couldnt get within six miles of him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 It's very commendable of you to show support for British GP riders (someone has to!) but Harris is not the answer, his record of qualifying in the top 8 is worse than Nicholls. I hardly think you can blame the tracks either, surely the mark of a world class rider is one who can adapt to any conditions? Anyway our very own World Champion, widely regarded to be 'an overtaker' and not the best gater, was able to win a SGP World Title because of his consistency in 2000, step forward Mr Loram. Harris seems a simple, genuine kind of bloke but he isn't world class often enough and when it matters. In fact as I have posted elsewhere I still think he's dining off Cardiff 2007. If they feel it's neccessary to put British riders in the series for commercial reasons then Richardson is our best bet (but for the love of God not Edward Kennett!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 i rate all british riders ...... That says it all, there's supporting the Brits and there is blind faith and you have gone for blind faith, just accept some Brits are not good enough. In this instance, Bomber and Scott are not good enough for the GP series, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 That says it all, there's supporting the Brits and there is blind faith and you have gone for blind faith, just accept some Brits are not good enough. In this instance, Bomber and Scott are not good enough for the GP series, sadly. i know not all brits are great and will never make a gp rider but i will never get my swelf in front of them and push them back by slating them, i will always get behind them and push them on if i can, every country as crap riders, us prob more than the big 4 or 5 countries, but to me brits come 1st. my blind faith is belle vue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Well if us brits don't support em nobody will!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I think that if GB are to be given two wild card entries, then I think that two new riders should be given a chance , so I would go for Tai Woffenden and Lee Richardson,but who knows maybe the organisers will not choose any British riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) If they put Tai in it will probably ruin the kid. He isn't anywhere near good enough at the moment. I'd not like to see Tai in the GP's until he is good enough to qualify himself - that'll be 2012, In the mean time let Harris keep trying and Lee Richardsson replace Nicholls. Edited August 31, 2009 by superguest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 If they put Tai in it will probably ruin the kid. He isn't anywhere near good enough at the moment. I'd not like to see Tai in the GP's until he is good enough to qualify himself - that'll be 2012, In the mean time let Harris keep trying and Lee Richardsson replace Nicholls. Agree about Tai. Talented and I think he'll get there in a few years but nowhere near ready yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 All well and good saying "let Harris keep trying" but if he fails to get in the top 8 this year (which seems certain) then that is 3 years in a row in which he has failed. Unless he qualifies at Brandon, then surely it is time to give someone else a crack and in the absence of any worthwhile British candidates then it must be time that the GB quota is cut to 1 or even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 If they put Tai in it will probably ruin the kid. He isn't anywhere near good enough at the moment. I'd not like to see Tai in the GP's until he is good enough to qualify himself - that'll be 2012, In the mean time let Harris keep trying and Lee Richardsson replace Nicholls. I think that he is a bright intelligent young lad, and after listening to him on Sky I think that he would have the correct mental attitude to cope with it,the thing that would need to do is surround himself with the correct people, and I am sure that would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 harris could barley keep on the same lap as crump even at coventry, so dirt and home track advantage still couldnt get within six miles of him! Not sure whether you're saying that Chris Harris can't ride in a field of barley or whether the Coventry track resembles a field of that cereal! Probably just a mildly amusing typo. Thanks for the smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 The brits should want to qualify on their own merit full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 If they put Tai in it will probably ruin the kid. He isn't anywhere near good enough at the moment. I'd not like to see Tai in the GP's until he is good enough to qualify himself - that'll be 2012, In the mean time let Harris keep trying and Lee Richardsson replace Nicholls. If we blooded youngster like Tai in an under 21 GP series, or a series for the riders "bubbling under", as it were. Then, the natural progression from that would be the full GP series. Run it over less meetings, and limit the field to no more than 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 If they put Tai in it will probably ruin the kid. He isn't anywhere near good enough at the moment. I'd not like to see Tai in the GP's until he is good enough to qualify himself - that'll be 2012, In the mean time let Harris keep trying and Lee Richardsson replace Nicholls. I agree with that for ALL riders. Scrap the nominations and make riders earn their place either by finishing in the top 8 (or 10) and then the other places go to the riders who battle through a long qualifying process Gimmee's should be eliminated immediately. There is NO reason why all the GP riders couldn't enter the qualifying process and if they fail on both counts then there should be no way back until the following year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I agree with that for ALL riders. Scrap the nominations and make riders earn their place either by finishing in the top 8 (or 10) and then the other places go to the riders who battle through a long qualifying process Gimmee's should be eliminated immediately. There is NO reason why all the GP riders couldn't enter the qualifying process and if they fail on both counts then there should be no way back until the following year I disagree, there has to be some scope for riders that miss the top eight through injury. If all GP riders entered the qualifying rounds it would make a mockery of the qualifying system. For example if the top 8 finishers in the GP series all qualified for the GP challenge it would render the meeting pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 What they should do is; the bottom seven GP riders at the end of the series, to meet the top nine riders from the GP challenge. Then the top eight riders from another meeting qualifying for the following years GP. Get rid of the nominated riders, if your not good enoughyou shouldn't be riding in them. Scrap the wildcard which most of the time are a complete waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 They could always use 3 or 4 dates as qualifiers and then the other 3 or 4 GPs as the championship proper .................... give all the riders a chance every year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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