rami Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Jonsson was without doubt a brilliant rider during that time, but Sam after his serious injuries was better than ever and in 92 and 93 he made the art of speedway look simple. I seem to recall that when Per actually won the title in 1990, he was only averaging 8+ here and I think Gundersen was the same when he won his first 2 titles (but some of that was down to tape exclusions to lower his average ) When Erik won his second title in 1985 he finished that season with an average of over 11.00 for cradley I agree about Sam in 92 and 93 he was superb and would probably have been world champion both years if a GP system had been in place ( but not if Jan O hadnt been ruled out by injury!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) Sandman, as Paul Newman memorably remarked to Robert Redford in The Sting, "You're a real horse's ass!" It just seems a pity that the rancour which seems to have pervaded so many other parts of this forum has now found its way onto the "Years Gone By" section. There was a time when those of us who enjoy wallowing in nostalgia could do so without that sort of thing. yeah? well you can pee off as well..pipe smoking commies and bilge rats ganging up on me! (any wonder im a horses ass???) Edited September 30, 2009 by sandman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 It just seems a pity that the rancour which seems to have pervaded so many other parts of this forum has now found its way onto the "Years Gone By" section. There was a time when those of us who enjoy wallowing in nostalgia could do so without that sort of thing. You're absolutely right, Ian. It's just so sad. Think I'll stick to the Speedway History Forum from now on: http://speedwayhistory.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=recent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 You're absolutely right, Ian. It's just so sad. Think I'll stick to the Speedway History Forum from now on: http://speedwayhistory.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=recent I tried that one a while back Norman. I didn't think much of it; you get serious abuse if you suggest that George Hunter might actually have out-gated Peter Craven in that fateful race at Meadowbank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) I tried that one a while back Norman. I didn't think much of it; you get serious abuse if you suggest that George Hunter might actually have out-gated Peter Craven in that fateful race at Meadowbank. Not from me you don't. Anyway, I don't remember anyone being personally abusive when the subject was discussed. There were disagreements but it didn't descend to the sort of rancour you get on this Forum. Edited September 30, 2009 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Not from me you don't. Anyway, I don't remember anyone being personally abusive when the subject was discussed. There were disagreements but it didn't descend to the sort of rancour you get on this Forum. Maybe I'll give it another go and see what happens, Norman. Certainly some of the threads on that forum were very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Is this section not moderated ? From what I've seen some of these posts here would certainly have been blocked had they been made, for example, in the EL or General sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star ghost Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I will agree with Norbold and Frenchy. It is time this continual swearing and carry on was outlawed. It does no-one any good and must make others wonder if the forum is worth while. Also someone must pay to keep things going. It is hardly the right way to thank whoever that is as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff... Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 OK in the face of general opinion I apologise, will stick him on ignore, that way he will not wind me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I didn't trawl through all the posts but I'm sure a fair few have already said the same as me, Leigh Adams. Predictable maybe but at least it's on topic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Personally while I think Greg might have been gutted to lose out on the final bend in 2007, I think he'd still be pretty chuffed in this parallel universe where the World Final replaced the Grand Prix in 1995 - because looking at the venues and years I posted, he'd be a multiple World Champion. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Personally while I think Greg might have been gutted to lose out on the final bend in 2007, I think he'd still be pretty chuffed in this parallel universe where the World Final replaced the Grand Prix in 1995 - because looking at the venues and years I posted, he'd be a multiple World Champion. All the best Rob As would, without doubt the unluckiest rider not to win a World title, Master Gollob..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 As would, without doubt the unluckiest rider not to win a World title, Master Gollob..!! 2009 isn't over yet, Derek... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 2009 isn't over yet, Derek... Steve I know - and wouldn't it be FANTASTIC if Gollob could by some miracle win that world title he so deserves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I know - and wouldn't it be FANTASTIC if Gollob could by some miracle win that world title he so deserves... I agree...it would be a wonderful happening for speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I know - and wouldn't it be FANTASTIC if Gollob could by some miracle win that world title he so deserves... I agree...it would be a wonderful happening for speedway. I'm not so sure. OK, the guy deserves a title, but would that no simply encourage him to retire at the top? Do we really want another Penhall situation where we don't have a world champion competing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmartin Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm not so sure. OK, the guy deserves a title, but would that no simply encourage him to retire at the top? Do we really want another Penhall situation where we don't have a world champion competing? I thought they said on the Telly on Saturday Night that Tomas Gollob had said he planned to ride for another three years. Someone like him wouldn't pack it in yet - he loves it too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I thought they said on the Telly on Saturday Night that Tomas Gollob had said he planned to ride for another three years. Someone like him wouldn't pack it in yet - he loves it too much. I thought they said Gollob was going on for another 5 years.......or was I imagining things..............(wouldn't surprise me if I was) RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Interesting to read in the latest "Backtrack" Tony Mac and John Berry's thoughts on who would have been World champs in the 70's using a Grand Prix system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Interesting to read in the latest "Backtrack" Tony Mac and John Berry's thoughts on who would have been World champs in the 70's using a Grand Prix system. Yet it is. But I can't help feeling that they've done Ivan Mauger something of a disservice. Mauger was the dominant rider in world speedway up until around 1975, and I can't see him not winning another championship after either 1971 or 1972, whatever the format of the championship. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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