Bagpuss Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 The lack of posts on the GP threads nowadays says it all unfortunately. I just hope they start getting tracks prepared properly sharpish as the next batch of likely GP riders will entertain given the right conditions, ie Holder, Woffinden, Ward, Jonasson, Hougaard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Three hours and ten minutes of my life I'll never get back. Even the studio are now finally voicing the 'B' word with the rest of us. Only entertainment was notching up the number of times Mullard said 'disappointing' or 'disappointed' - 37 in all Just pray Terenzano provides some excitement. What odds on Sky Football Sports switching that one to the red channel again? I mean, there's just not enough ball sports on TV these days, is there? Dont hold your breath about Terenzano. Only seen one meeting there, U21 final a few years ago. All night it was just inside line, if you tried to go wide you went backwards. I've heard from others it can be good sometimes, but once Ole has got his claws into it? Surely it can only get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeone Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) It seems to me that SKY are already showing that they are losing interest in covering GP speedway, why else would they have put two of them over to the red button. This is supposed to be speedways flagship competition, but it is increasingly being held on track surfaces that provide virtually no competitive racing at all. Surely as Havvy said, the guys who prepare the tracks week in and week out know better than Ole Olsen how to prepare these tracks for proper racing. Look what happened at Peterborough when Chapman ingnored Olsen's instructions and prepared the track properly, it produced possibly the best international event this year! If Sky did indeed pull the plug on the GPs I can't say I would blame them, after all how long can they justify showing events that their own commentators and studio experts cannot be positive about. How many times were the words "dissapointing" and "predictable" used last night? I think Havelock even used the taboo word "boring" on a couple of occasions. If the TV coverage disappears then the series would I guess lose a lot of the sponsors too, so would it be viable to still run it on that basis, it would be interesting to see what our continental contributors have to say about the coverage in their own countries. Are the TV presenters and indeed viewers around Europe as un-impressed with what they are seeing as ours are? Edited September 13, 2009 by Beeone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Speedway got shunted last night because Sky were showing US Open Tennis on 1 (which they have done all week), Super League on 3 and Spanish Football on 4 with their Football First on 2. Unfortunately, a GP from Slovenia is not going to hold sway over those 4 programmes and having watched the re-run this morning you can't blame Sky can you? Only one point to make re last night. Surely riders who get nominations should have numbers 12-15 and the riders who qualify through the GP challenge should get 9-11. That would prevent the farce where Nicholls gets a semi spot ahead of Bjerre. What's wrong with them having run-off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 What's wrong with them having run-off? a run off? now don't be silly. Do you know what that would do to Ole's schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 a very poor meeting and also why I'll never go to a gp other than Cardiff. Even that was slick this year so that may be dumped soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Totally blame the folk who prepared the track. Even Zagar was caught out by it. A big well done to Rune Holta for getting second. Would have been first, but for the crappy riding of Nicky and Emil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Well i got to watch this on the livestream on a laptop & the commentary was Polish so we didn't have to listen to Millard's waffle. :approve:In fact Cegielski & Dobrucki made more sense than Millard. The meet itself was a bore apart from the incidents which gave us something to talk about, little Kenny Bjerre is so lucky that bike didn't smash his head to bits & top marks to Emil for avoiding Greg. Nicky could really have no argument on the Gollob incident now could he? Watching on the laptop was a different experience indeed, & 5 of us in a tiny room was........... well, interesting Assuming you are over 21, what you do in the privacy of your own tiny room is your business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 My daughter has just given up watching the GP from last night I told her it was boring,but it still took her until heat 9 to agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 The riders should do something about it ,they are all complaining under there breath but really they are thinking if I gate I will win without to much hassle. Poor quality all season. Embarrasing for SKY IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Assuming you are over 21, what you do in the privacy of your own tiny room is your business It wasn't even my tiny room Nick, it was fun though, apart from the meeting that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) Can we have the livestream for this event please.? Cheers in advance. People complain that speedway isn't given good tv coverage. When SKY do such a good job and gives more live hours than the sport deserves over the course of a season, some people go and flout it by watching for free on the internet. Don't moan and groan if SKY choose to stop covering speedway, because everybody is watching it on internet and not paying, as they should do, to watch it on SKY. I say it's as big an offence as illegal downloading. People like me are paying so freeloaders can watch it on the Internet. Edited September 13, 2009 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 100% agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin' Along Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 That may be the case at Swindon but ask the fans of Berwick, Rye House, Stoke, Workington and next year it seems Leicester. The trick seems to be to run meetings that don't involve GP riders. Of course Saturday night speedway is viable - if you remove the parasitical GP system. Rob McCaffery. While the powers that be keep the GP system in place - and they will, make no mistake about it - Saturday speedway will not be viable. And whilst so many tracks are owned by the GRA, or have local authorities that won't give planning permission or have ridiculous curfews/noise restrictions, it won't be an option for many clubs either. Whether or not you have GP riders in your team is neither here or there as the current system will not materially change, at least not in the very near future, and we all have to accept it. Defeatist? Maybe. Realist? Definitely. Perhaps as an EL fan I have to be, it may be different for those that support the other leagues. ......That would prevent the farce where Nicholls gets a semi spot ahead of Bjerre. What's wrong with them having run-off? Nicholls didn't get a semi final spot ahead of just Bjerre. There were 3 riders on 7 points don't forget. The farce came about on the count back - Bjerre had more last places, and so was ruled out, but Zagar and Nicholls had identical scores. In a true count back, the rider who had the highest placing in their one race together would have got the nod. That was Zagar as he finished ahead of Nicholls in the last heat. The fact that Nicholls was only given the semi final place because of how low his race jacket number was just shows how idiotic the "rules" (if you can call them that) are. A run-off for the final place would have been much fairer - and you never know, Nicholls might have even got in the semi final on merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I just hope they start getting tracks prepared properly sharpish as the next batch of likely GP riders will entertain given the right conditions, ie Holder, Woffinden, Ward, I would seriously consider putting these three in next season regardless of age. They are all racers and would be a kick in the ass for the series instead of some of the ageing riders that are taking up space at the moment. The current top 10 of Crump, Emil, Gollob, Hancock, Jonsson, Bjerre, Lindgren, Pedersen and Andersen along with the top three from Coventry (Holder could be one) and two from Holder, Woffinden and Ward would make a much better 15 line up and start bringing in new faces who like Emil go full out for every point. Only one point to make re last night. Surely riders who get nominations should have numbers 12-15 and the riders who qualify through the GP challenge should get 9-11. That would prevent the farce where Nicholls gets a semi spot ahead of Bjerre. What's wrong with them having run-off? Agree The riders from the GP Challenge should be given the 9-11 race jackets and the next four given 12-15 relating to where they finished in the previous series (if they were in) with new riders taking the lower numbers. Quite frankly that should be taken out and a run-off would have been much better way of deciding it. A big well done to Rune Holta for getting second. Would have been first, but for the crappy riding of Nicky and Emil. I'm no Nicki fan to say the least, but he was the rider that should have been excluded but when Gollob cut across them both, Nicki couldn't shut off because Emil was inside him and only lifting at that split second caused the accident. As for crap riding from Emil ... is that the same Emil that was thanked by both Hancock and Gollob for avoiding them when falling and the same Emil that was so crap it affected his scores ... 3 3 3 3 3 3 6 ... Shockingly crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) People complain that speedway isn't given good tv coverage. When SKY do such a good job and gives more live hours than the sport deserves over the course of a season, some people go and flout it by watching for free on the internet. Don't moan and groan if SKY choose to stop covering speedway, because everybody is watching it on internet and not paying, as they should do, to watch it on SKY. I say it's as big an offence as illegal downloading. People like me are paying so freeloaders can watch it on the Internet. I say Sky are allowing people to do this when they do as they do. If this is the only way folk can watch all of it live when they aren't Sky customers then that is how it will be.If Sky choose to serve speedway fans as second class citizens then they will lose those customers that they do have with their actions, Andy Murray playing tennis was fair enough as he's British but to give Spanish football precedence is a bloody disgrace. For what it's worth we are Sky customers at our residence, but i chose to watch in the company of freinds where they aren't, the livestream was an absolute godsend , many thanks to R&R for the link & many thanks to justintv Edited September 13, 2009 by colincooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I say Sky are allowing people to do this when they do as they do. If this is the only way folk can watch all of it live when they aren't Sky customers then that is how it will be.If Sky choose to serve speedway fans as second class citizens then they will lose those customers that they do have with their actions, Andy Murray playing tennis was fair enough as he's British but to give Spanish football precedence is a bloody disgrace. For what it's worth we are Sky customers at our residence, but i chose to watch in the company of freinds where they aren't, the livestream was an absolute godsend , many thanks to R&R for the link & many thanks to justintv You have your own valid reasons for pick pocketing SKY, but please don't try to shield the fact by saying it's because they treat us as second class citizens. How do you come to that - by showing live meetings throughout the British season, despite amateurism shown by clubs and lack of appreciation by fans. No, it's because you have to press a red bloody button. Do you really blame them for placing speedway behind football and tennis? If you do, then I think you're kidding yourself. We shouldn't forget what SKY has given us these past 10 years and perhaps show a bit more appreciation SKY may be unable to stop live streaming on the Internet, but that doesn't mean you have to take advantage of it. I bet you peer over the wall at your local track as well, save paying to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 You have your own valid reasons for pick pocketing SKY, but please don't try to shield the fact by saying it's because they treat us as second class citizens. How do you come to that - by showing live meetings throughout the British season, despite amateurism shown by clubs and lack of appreciation by fans. No, it's because you have to press a red bloody button. Do you really blame them for placing speedway behind football and tennis? If you do, then I think you're kidding yourself. We shouldn't forget what SKY has given us these past 10 years and perhaps show a bit more appreciation SKY may be unable to stop live streaming on the Internet, but that doesn't mean you have to take advantage of it. I bet you peer over the wall at your local track as well, save paying to get in. Don't be so pathetic, if you cared to read my post,which very obviously you haven't,you would've seen that i said i'm a SKY CUSTOMER.I have no problem at home when i watch any meeting. I chose to associate with freinds for a jolly good night in, freinds with No red button facility, that is what i take offence at. We bloody enjoyed it cos them Poles make more sense than that bloody Millard. Thankfully none of us there allowed the situation to spoil our evening & the hosts we're very greatful for the assistance. As someone who has been a fan for nearly 40 years, non stop i take offence at your final comment, but i'll take the bet if you like, easy money Have a nice evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Well i got to watch this on the livestream on a laptop & the commentary was Polish so we didn't have to listen to Millard's waffle. :approve:In fact Cegielski & Dobrucki made more sense than Millard. The meet itself was a bore apart from the incidents which gave us something to talk about, little Kenny Bjerre is so lucky that bike didn't smash his head to bits & top marks to Emil for avoiding Greg. Nicky could really have no argument on the Gollob incident now could he? Watching on the laptop was a different experience indeed, & 5 of us in a tiny room was........... well, interesting what you need is a docking station with a 32 inch screen, just like th tv! and at least we get to see that hot polish presenter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) As someone who has been a fan for nearly 40 years, non stop i take offence at your final comment, but i'll take the bet if you like, easy money Have a nice evening. I don't mingle with free-loaders. Have a pleasant evening. Bet you're watching tv through next door's window. Edited September 13, 2009 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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