scotty2hotty Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I got the impression, rightly or wrongly, from the article that Scott was actually saying that he wasn't invited to be present in the pits for Team GB. I would imagine that a certain amount of people were invited ie Loram, Richardson etc, you can't invite the whole squad for each team otherwise you wouldn't be able to move in the pits. That was my take anyway, rightly or wrongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletor Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 At least it's all out in the open now, this lion bloke comes across as a bit of a coward .The sooner he is removed and Nicholls put in the side the better off we will be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Where as I have some sympathy with Nicholls about being left out, his form is not at its best at the moment so I can understand why.......................but a call would have been courteous to advise him.................... And for those of you who are slating Rob Lyon.................who would you have as Team GB manager?????????????? RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemphizzx Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) IMO Lyon should have picked Scott for the race off - he is clealry a better choice than Bridger or King in Poland In ignoring him Rob Lyon has failed in his job as Team manager ,charged with i assume getting us to the SWCF , all this claptrap about the young lions doing us proud !! Bridger and King scored how many between them ????????? Get the youngsters around the squad and i agree tracking them at Pboro was a decent idea but you have to pick your best team in the Race off !!! (its like resting players in a meaningless world cup football group game but then picking the better players for the quater final) imagine capello resting Rooney then leaving him out for the QF as he wanted to give the youngsters a go ! As i have said before if we had reached the final then 2 of the youngsters would have experienced the ultimate a world cup final in Poland and tai would have not had to gain this experience working in the pits for the aussies !! A lot has been blamed on Scott for last year at Coventry and the Race off but the whole thing was a disaster last year how many did Rico score in the race off ??????? An out of form Scott is still a better option in a world cup race off than King or Brider at this moment in time IMO Edited July 24, 2009 by hemphizzx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I love the quote, "Nicholls, who in fairness to him has spent the last six years practically holding together a pretty ordinary and at times poorly organised Team GB side, SCB pretty ordinary side! Why was that then?. Simply because Neil could only work with the riders that he had at his Disposal!! The kids were not around nor up to International standard then, and in some case's now are still not. As for badly organised, is that his opinion, or yours??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 From paragraph 3: “I haven't even had the decency of a call from Rob,” Nicholls said. From paragraph 4: I said I wanted to race for my country, but he phoned me and said I was having a tough time right now and perhaps it was best I didn't. How many times does he want to be called then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemphizzx Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) From paragraph 3: “I haven't even had the decency of a call from Rob,” Nicholls said. From paragraph 4: I said I wanted to race for my country, but he phoned me and said I was having a tough time right now and perhaps it was best I didn't. How many times does he want to be called then? i would say that Nicholls felt the first call from Lyon was somewhat nebulous if Lyon thinks it was the right decision to leave him out completely - FAIR ENOUGH - wrong IMO But Scott obviously felt he was in with a chance for the race off or he would not be saying now he thought he deserved a call from Lyon telling him otherwise would he ? Edited July 24, 2009 by hemphizzx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 No one said it, it was written by a scribe. Therefore (look in the dictionary for a definition) it's not a QUOTE. What was Richardson's best placing in a GP series in relation to Scott's placings. What is Rico's best placing in a GB Championship. Has he won one of those yet & how many has Scott Nicholls won ? I have nothing against Rico as he is a top rider, done super for GB and all clubs. I suggest you get your dictionary out. I have just quoted you (above). The reporter made that statement (albeit in print) and I copied it, it's a quote. I will QUOTE the dictioary for you now, "to repeat (a passage, phrase, etc.) from a book, speech, or the like, as by way of authority, illustration, etc". What does Lee Richardsons GP position or number of GB title have to do with (and I quote), "Nicholls, who in fairness to him has spent the last six years practically holding together a pretty ordinary and at times poorly organised Team GB side, rightly feels aggrieved."? Lee Richardson has performed better for Team GB than Scott over the last few years. I have nothing against Scott but he makes himself look an ass here, he says Rob said he was not going to use him then moans that Rob didnt phone him to say he was not going t use him, d'oh! I also found the comment from the reporter to be quite funny as Scott has not held together a pretty ordinary Team GB over the years. SCB pretty ordinary side! Why was that then?. Simply because Neil could only work with the riders that he had at his Disposal!! The kids were not around nor up to International standard then, and in some case's now are still not. As for badly organised, is that his opinion, or yours??. It's a quote, don't have a go at me for it, I suggest you contact Mike Bacon and tell him you don't agree with him. Funny you should jump in and defend Middlo though when nobody has mentioned him, says a lot really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 From paragraph 3: “I haven't even had the decency of a call from Rob,” Nicholls said. From paragraph 4: I said I wanted to race for my country, but he phoned me and said I was having a tough time right now and perhaps it was best I didn't. How many times does he want to be called then? If Scott would like to post his phone number here, I would be happy to offer my services to Rob Lyon as a secretary, and phone Scotty on a daily basis to tell him that he's not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 The facts are that since the original phone call to scott ref the peterborough match Rob Lyon continually suggested that both Scott and Lee would be reconsidered for the play off if we made it. Once he has done this the courteous thing to do when he has made his mind up would be to call Scott and Lee. It would appear what has happened is that the initial phone call has been made and to soften the blow for both parties a carrot was dangled ref the play off. However to finish of matters Rob should have called scott with his decision. Poor team management in my eyes nothing to do about sulking, scotty just telling how it was. As the article states lots of people have been questioning him on what happened so he told it. wolfy!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) No one said it, it was written by a scribe. Therefore (look in the dictionary for a definition) it's not a QUOTE. What was Richardson's best placing in a GP series in relation to Scott's placings. What is Rico's best placing in a GB Championship. Has he won one of those yet & how many has Scott Nicholls won ? I have nothing against Rico as he is a top rider, done super for GB and all clubs. Does the fact that it was WRITTEN not make it a quote from the article? And as fo the rest of your aguement, does that mean that we should still be picking the likes of Havelock? Teams should be picked on current form, not what someone has achieved in the past. At least it's all out in the open now, this lion bloke comes across as a bit of a coward .The sooner he is removed and Nicholls put in the side the better off we will be . No, then we will be back to where we were last year, instead of taking the step foward that we did this year Edited July 24, 2009 by Cornishman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletor Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Does the fact that it was WRITTEN not make it a quote from the article? And as fo the rest of your aguement, does that mean that we should still be picking the likes of Havelock? Teams should be picked on current form, not what someone has achieved in the past. No, then we will be back to where we were last year, instead of taking the step foward that we did this year We came in the same place as last year in the race off and scored less points . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 We came in the same place as last year in the race off and scored less points . We only scored less points because the opposition were stronger all round. Last year we were 14 points off qualifying, this year we were 4 off and in it right to the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 We only scored less points because the opposition were stronger all round. Last year we were 14 points off qualifying, this year we were 4 off and in it right to the end Denmark had no Bjane no Nicki and a 25 % fit hans ....yea really strong We came 5th last year we came 5th year... thou with the right team we would have made the final because the other teams were so weak . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 To be fair I can sympathise with Nicholls a little, you would expect all squad members to be given a call before both meetings to be told whether they were in the team or not. However I'm quite happy that he didn't get picked for reasons explained to death over the last fortnight or so. Its still not clear to me whether he was invited to be in the pits or asked to stay away....of course it may have been neither and if so he has missed a trick by not being in the pits and part of the Team for both events. Lee Richardson and Edward Kennett were right in the middle of it all even though they weren't riding and that speaks volumes for their commitment. If Nicholls wasn't told to stay away then his absence says an awful lot about him as a team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Denmark had no Bjane no Nicki and a 25 % fit hans ....yea really strong If you READ my post, i said that we finished 14 points behind 2nd last year, 4 this year. And the team in 2nd were the same both times. Denmark weren't mentioned. And even if they were, they scored plenty more than the 4th placed team last year. Try checking your facts before you jump into someone elses discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 If you READ my post, i said that we finished 14 points behind 2nd last year, 4 this year. And the team in 2nd were the same both times. Denmark weren't mentioned. And even if they were, they scored plenty more than the 4th placed team last year. Try checking your facts before you jump into someone elses discussion To sum it up 5th last year 5th this year so no better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Did other Team GB squad members such as Simon Stead and James Wright receive a call to say they weren't riding in Poland ? If not then why does Nicholls think he should have got one - what makes him so special and more deserving than the others ? Maybe that's part of his problem, his ego lets him believe he deserves special treatment and when he doesn't get it then his dummy goes flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazza Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Did Rob phone Carl Wilkinson and tell him he was not using him in the World Cup? what about every other Brit riding in the EL? Or the PL? Why stop there, did he phone all eligible riders in the NL too? I love the quote, "Nicholls, who in fairness to him has spent the last six years practically holding together a pretty ordinary and at times poorly organised Team GB side, rightly feels aggrieved." I assume that was sarcasm? 4 wasn't it last year at Coventry that he managed to score? Only better than Simon Stead. Did make me laugh when the journalist/Scott Nicholls said that What was Richardson's best placing in a GP series in relation to Scott's placings. What is Rico's best placing in a GB Championship. Has he won one of those yet & how many has Scott Nicholls won ? I have nothing against Rico as he is a top rider, done super for GB and all clubs. Not really relevant to the World Cup. It was more on this season's for that Nicholls was left out How did Nicholls do in the British Final? Not as well as Rico Nicholls has been poor this year but Rico has upper his game. Btw i'm not having a pop at you just fighting fire with fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Did other Team GB squad members such as Simon Stead and James Wright receive a call to say they weren't riding in Poland ? If not then why does Nicholls think he should have got one - what makes him so special and more deserving than the others ? Maybe that's part of his problem, his ego lets him believe he deserves special treatment and when he doesn't get it then his dummy goes flying. you ask a question ref a phone call to wright and stead and without an answer criticise scotty. what if the answer to your question was yes they did recieve a call. wolfy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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