Onc Onc Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 My driving License says that i,m British. It deffo says GB on it but i,m english so does that mean i can only wear a British shirt and not an english one whilst driving my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now Then Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Yes But none of us on here, talking fans BTW, 'Represent' GB, then wear an opponents shirt just 2 days later, we were lead to believe that those riders that just missed out were gutted, distraught call it what you will. If Australia just missed out would any Australian wear a GB shirt? Remember Paul Ince when playing for West Ham Utd, went and had a picture taken with a Manchester United shirt on because that's who he wanted to play for. West Ham fans if I remember wern't pleased, neither were the West Ham management, I wonder what one of the many media publicists would have said to Tai, if you play the media game re sponsorship etc, you play the media game and have to be aware that things get seen and reported. Regards to all, Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Yes But none of us on here, talking fans BTW, 'Represent' GB, then wear an opponents shirt just 2 days later, we were lead to believe that those riders that just missed out were gutted, distraught call it what you will. If Australia just missed out would any Australian wear a GB shirt? Remember Paul Ince when playing for West Ham Utd, went and had a picture taken with a Manchester United shirt on because that's who he wanted to play for. West Ham fans if I remember wern't pleased, neither were the West Ham management, I wonder what one of the many media publicists would have said to Tai, if you play the media game re sponsorship etc, you play the media game and have to be aware that things get seen and reported. Regards to all, Alan.  For goodness sake, get a life.  What harm was Tai possibly doing?  All the best Rob  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper-racing.co.uk Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 My driving License says that i,m British. It deffo says GB on it but i,m english so does that mean i can only wear a British shirt and not an english one whilst driving my car  Not another "im not British" idiot  You are British get over it - if your English Scottish or Welsh - you are British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 For goodness sake, get a life.  What harm was Tai possibly doing?  All the best Rob  None, just showing his true colours for after he has ridden the GB gravy train. Fair play to the kid, exploiting the system. I'm sure we would all do the same, wouldn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 But i think individual meetings are slightly different.You can be a representative or more correctly nominated by any nation.Look at Theo Pijper he is now nominated by France i think.Shane Colvin by Belgium i think in FIM meetings.Laguta was nominated by Latvia for their GP,which got up the Russian federations nose.......But to ride for a national team you have to actually hold the nationality of that team.So it might be that representation in individual meetings doesn't count.Which is why i didn't mention Holta on purpose.But i have no idea if there is a ruling in speedway.I think there might be one in football introduced though but then in football they only have team,not individual events Holta represented Norway in the 1995 World Cup Final (the old 3 man formula). When he rode for Poland in the 2005 Final he became the first to ride for 2 countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I must be honest and say that initially I was a bit shocked to see Tai wearing an Aussie shirt in the pits on Sunday and my first thoughts were 'OMG the forum will be full of this later'. However, thinking about it, does it really matter and also the guy was brought up in Australia, so these guys were probably his idols. At the end of the day, Tai has chosen to ride for Team GB and really that is all that matters. He had a choice, he chose us, for that I am pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Holta represented Norway in the 1995 World Cup Final (the old 3 man formula). When he rode for Poland in the 2005 Final he became the first to ride for 2 countries. Thanks for that.Seems to prove there isn't a ruling,unless it was introduced after Ferjan rode for Hungary.But surely Ivan Mauger for instance rode for GB and New Zealand back in the 70s....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 If he wants to be an Aussie then he can Piss Off and be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Thanks for that.Seems to prove there isn't a ruling,unless it was introduced after Ferjan rode for Hungary.But surely Ivan Mauger for instance rode for GB and New Zealand back in the 70s....... Â Â Wasn't that to do with the fact NZ didn't actually have a speedway team and once they did Mauger reverted back to NZ or am I making that up? I'm not as old as you cuz!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now Then Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 For goodness sake, get a life. Â What harm was Tai possibly doing? Â All the best Rob Undoing Rob Lyons work on team ethos possibly? No wonder speedway doesn't get any proper national media coverage, No harm at all to me Rob, but you seem a guy with his head screwed on, I've know doubt this will come back and bite Tai on the bum, things like that do. Regards to all, Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Wasn't that to do with the fact NZ didn't actually have a speedway team and once they did Mauger reverted back to NZ or am I making that up? I'm not as old as you cuz!! No you are right............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTLAND1314 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 and an aussie flag tattoo on his back   I hear he enjoys a Ruby Murray... so are we going to cause a fuss over his Japanese flag.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMV06 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I suppose people who wear uniforms, working for foreign companies are traitors as well are they??? Tai probably gained fantastic experience from yesterday and if it benefits GB in the future then he can wear what the f*** he likes as far as I care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 BFD, I think Tai has said in a couple of interviews that as both of his parents are British, he's already made his choice, and it's to ride for Britain. But at the same time, he has a lot of Australian friends. I don't see what the fuss is all about him wearing an Aussie T-Shirt - I've got a Polish hat somewhere.  Incidentally, have you still got back in time for Belle Vue tonight? And have a good journey back to Aussie mate.  All the best Rob I've got a Polish hat too!  Davey Watt rode well tonight BTW, but he's an Aussie so I'm sure that'll cheese off the xenophobic refugees from the BNP on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff... Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks for that.Seems to prove there isn't a ruling,unless it was introduced after Ferjan rode for Hungary.But surely Ivan Mauger for instance rode for GB and New Zealand back in the 70s....... Â Not 100% sure on this (Kevin Meynell will know) but I think a rider represent the country of the body that issues his racing license in individual world championship events, when Ivan rode under the GB guise New Zealand were not represented at FIM level and came under the jurisdiction of our own ACU. Â For World Team Cup events a rider rides for the country that issues his passport. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbieoldboy Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) If he wants to be an Aussie then he can Piss Off and be one. Â But thats the whole point HE DOSEN'T. Or didn't, lord knows what he thinks now. Transport him back to Aus for the hynus crime of helping a friend and gaining the very experience people have been saying British riders have needed for years. Â Â Edited July 21, 2009 by newbieoldboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yes But none of us on here, talking fans BTW, 'Represent' GB, then wear an opponents shirt just 2 days later, we were lead to believe that those riders that just missed out were gutted, distraught call it what you will. If Australia just missed out would any Australian wear a GB shirt? Remember Paul Ince when playing for West Ham Utd, went and had a picture taken with a Manchester United shirt on because that's who he wanted to play for. West Ham fans if I remember wern't pleased, neither were the West Ham management, I wonder what one of the many media publicists would have said to Tai, if you play the media game re sponsorship etc, you play the media game and have to be aware that things get seen and reported. Regards to all, Alan. Â What about the likes of Mark Viduka and Christian Vieri who openly support their dual countries but play for just one of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Not 100% sure on this (Kevin Meynell will know) but I think a rider represent the country of the body that issues his racing license in individual world championship events, when Ivan rode under the GB guise New Zealand were not represented at FIM level and came under the jurisdiction of our own ACU. For World Team Cup events a rider rides for the country that issues his passport. That is correct. But still.....Ivan is surely the only rider to win an FIM Gold medal for 2 different countries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4elt Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) This thread is so pathetic. How many British speedway supporters have been to a big individual meeting with British riders taking part only to support a foreign rider who rides for their club. I was lucky enough to experience Wembley back in the 70's and early 80's and there was always massive support for the Americans and Danes from British supporters who happened to support the clubs those riders rode for. I am British through and through, I will always support a British rider over a foreign rider, but what Tai did on Sunday was not on the track and was not whilst Team GB were still riding. Therefore it has no relevance to Team GB. At the end of the day Tai earns his living in Speedway and lets face it the window of opportunity is not that big and he needs to earn money full stop. If Tai wins a big event in the future and claims the success to be down to experiences gained from helping Team Aus, or any other team, will you all slag him off again or will you celebrate a British success. Edited July 21, 2009 by Dean'o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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