Swc - The Race Off

[Nevs]

Just finished watching the meeting,

I think the lads did us proud,many on here said we wouldn't make the race off,we did and we so nearly made it to the final,but alas not.

The youngsters have been blooded,and fair play to Rob Lyon and his bold decisions.-so stick that in your pipes and smoke it those who said we never had a chance-ok we aint in the final but so what-its been building for the future......

 

No disgrace this week whats so ever,

Great weeks racing and unlike previous years they looked hungry for it.

Well done to all of you,bodes well for the future-hope you have all learned things that maybe will come to fruition in future years,

Damned if you do damned if you don't

We certainly aint gone out of this disgraced by any means.

 

Well done guys,great efforts,maybe next year

 

Keep you heads held high and stick at it.

Edited July 17, 2009 by Nevs

[BigFatDave]

Magnificent Effort by Team Oz last night, now if they don't switch tracks on us in the final like the last SWC in Polska............

 

Also a big Tick for Team GB; they did real well, I just hope it means more people will get behind Rob Lyon and the boys - if ever a team deserved your support this is the one.

 

Any news of Adam Shields? It looked a bad one from where I was sitting, and him not making the podium was a worry, also as we were leaving the stadium we were overtaken by an ambulance with lights flashing and an escort car following close at high speed, hopefully nothing to do with it tho'.

 

Good to see Bomber's mechanic Ted displaying his Diplomatic Skills at the Pit gates, where an over-officious Security Guard tried to stop Danny King getting in. Ted told the wanna-be door-nazi to take his uniform off and go home, explaining to Danny that he only did it 'cos his wife beats him at home!!

 

He later tried it on with AJ; pity for Team GB he didn't succeed!

 

Aussie Supporters were heavily outnumbered by Team Oz but we still put on a good show! I would just like to apologise if I managed to invade any loungerooms but we sure looked menacing on the Big Screen!! what Ian Kirby was up to with his inflatable Kangaroo I'm not sure, but it was more suited to the X Rated channel!

 

(This kezboard sorry keyboard in the Hotel is all to co#k, I press 'Y' and get 'Z'!! )

 

Apart from that a HUGE night, can't wait for Saturdaz!

Edited July 17, 2009 by BigFatDave

[BUDGIE]

...... why did pearson keep on saying we were the underdogs and blooding youngsters for the future when clearly denmark

 

 

Perhaps because he was broadcasting to Britain, and further than that most people watching would have wanted England to win. (although obviously there is nothing wrong in wanting another nation to win!)

 

 

Also Denmarks changes were forced on them, in contrast England seem to have taken a policy decision to try to get better in the long term

[Bee]

The lads did us proud. The decision to go with the youngsters in the QUALIFIER was 100% correct. The did a great job in Poland too. But, as a few have said I'd have named Nicholls in that team and left out Bridger. I may have included Kennet too and left out King who was good at Peterborough but maybe not ready for Poland.

 

But you have to give the kids a break and a chance sometime. So no real moans from me. They were not expected to qualify so to take it to the wire was a damn fine effort.

[Bee]

Magnificent Effort by Team Oz last night, now if they don't switch tracks on us in the final like the last SWC in Polska............

 

Also a big Tick for Team GB; they did real well, I just hope it means more people will get behind Rob Lyon and the boys - if ever a team deserved your support this is the one.

 

Any news of Adam Shields? It looked a bad one from where I was sitting, and him not making the podium was a worry, also as we were leaving the stadium we were overtaken by an ambulance with lights flashing and an escort car following close at high speed, hopefully nothing to do with it tho'.

 

Good to see Bomber's mechanic Ted displaying his Diplomatic Skills at the Pit gates, where an over-officious Security Guard tried to stop Danny King getting in. Ted told the wanna-be door-nazi to take his uniform off and go home, explaining to Danny that he only did it 'cos his wife beats him at home!!

 

He later tried it on with AJ; pity for Team GB he didn't succeed!

 

Aussie Supporters were heavily outnumbered by Team Oz but we still put on a good show! I would just like to apologise if I managed to invade any loungerooms but we sure looked menacing on the Big Screen!! what Ian Kirby was up to with his inflatable Kangaroo I'm not sure, but it was more suited to the X Rated channel!

 

(This kezboard sorry keyboard in the Hotel is all to co#k, I press 'Y' and get 'Z'!! )

 

Apart from that a HUGE night, can't wait for Saturdaz!

 

 

You can be 100% sure that the track will be different on Saturday night.

[refereerick]

Why are some of the negative souls on here banging the drum of final, final final? they keep going on about losing but if we had the riders they want in the squad we might have made the final, but we would still have lost, no way we are going to get anywhere near the Poles or Aussies at the moment so give the younger riders the experience so in 2 or 3 years we are in a position to be able to compete for the title.

Guess the likes of Orion and Frigbo are so desperate to see a team they support win something after following Swindon for so long

[jrs]

Bee, you may well be right about the track being different on Saturday.

 

The forecast for tomorrow is heavy rain lets hope they have got it completely wrong !

 

Do they leave Sunday free in case it is rained off tomorrow?

 

 

[D.I.G.]

Another Magnificent Failure, don't us Brits just love them.

[Sir Jasper]

Well seems Denmarks injuries caught up with them tonight. Heartbreaking to see Hans scoring so low. He clearly wanted to help his country into the final but the injury proved too much. Iversen should be ashamed as a Danish regular he should be putting in a better performance than he did tonight. But Bjerre WOW has he found some form recently what a SWC he has had fantastic from the "pint size Dane".

 

BritPete dont be so stupid the Aussies were out racing for points in every heat from 1-25 not just at the end to put you lot out. How do you know Shields hadnt seized an engine or something of the sort hence Crump giving him his bike?

 

Well done to the Swedes though some very shrewd tactical moves paying off in the end for them. Very suprised that Lindback turned out to be the meeting winner (by qualifying) for the Swedes. However i think they will need to move it up a gear on Saturday or they are going to be totally outclassed.

 

Team GB/England/Great Britain what ever bloody name you want to give it. The lads can be proud of themselves they pushed all the way to heat 25 but in the end missed out to strength in depth to the Swedes. I think Rob Lyon made the right call on leaving Scott out. I dont think they would of got anywhere near what they did if he was there. His on going feud with Chris and his lack of form and low morale would of destroyed everything Rob is trying to build.

 

Well done to all 4 teams great nights racing. Bring on Saturday.

 

Totally agree with you, apart from there is no ongoing fued between Harris and Nicholls, its done and dusted.

[arnieg]

Perhaps because he was broadcasting to Britain, and further than that most people watching would have wanted England to win. (although obviously there is nothing wrong in wanting another nation to win!)

 

 

Also Denmarks changes were forced on them, in contrast England seem to have taken a policy decision to try to get better in the long term

Denmark didn't need to drop Bjarne, and if they had chosen their strongest team wouldn't Mads Korneliussen have been chosen ahead of Klindt and Hougaard? The fact that these two scored 12 as opposed to King and Bridger's 1 gives an indication of the challenge ahead. But did Danny and Lewis go to Poland with the intention of gaining as many last places as possible? NO. Did they try their hardest? I'm sure they did. What more could you ask from them?

 

It seems everyone on here wants either to say "what a wonderful effort" or "dreadful and its all the fault of X" I think the truth lies somewhere inbetween.

 

I can't say I was thrilled at Rob Lyon's appointment and wouldn't have made all the same choices that he has, but I think he's made a pretty good start. He seems to have a strategy and appears to have made some progress in turning Team GB into a team. On the basis of this year's performance I'm quite happy to give him some more time to develop Team GB. Verdict: an encoraging start and a qualified success, and Rob deserves our support.

 

Overall the World Cup has been fantastic (and not for the first time). We've had the Russians demolishing the Danes, some of the finest racing of the decade at Peterborough in a meeting where Australia and Poland were neck and neck and the drama of GB's strong performance at Leszno and Sweden's late run to pip them at the end. Once again the World Cup (in three meetings) has provided more excitment, entertainment and drama than an entire season of Grand Prixs.

 

It's been a brilliant week for speedway - but as usual the forum is full moaners

[Brian Hamilton]

Denmark didn't need to drop Bjarne, and if they had chosen their strongest team wouldn't Mads Korneliussen have been chosen ahead of Klindt and Hougaard? The fact that these two scored 12 as opposed to King and Bridger's 1 gives an indication of the challenge ahead. But did Danny and Lewis go to Poland with the intention of gaining as many last places as possible? NO. Did they try their hardest? I'm sure they did. What more could you ask from them?

 

It seems everyone on here wants either to say "what a wonderful effort" or "dreadful and its all the fault of X" I think the truth lies somewhere inbetween.

 

I can't say I was thrilled at Rob Lyon's appointment and wouldn't have made all the same choices that he has, but I think he's made a pretty good start. He seems to have a strategy and appears to have made some progress in turning Team GB into a team. On the basis of this year's performance I'm quite happy to give him some more time to develop Team GB. Verdict: an encoraging start and a qualified success, and Rob deserves our support.

 

Overall the World Cup has been fantastic (and not for the first time). We've had the Russians demolishing the Danes, some of the finest racing of the decade at Peterborough in a meeting where Australia and Poland were neck and neck and the drama of GB's strong performance at Leszno and Sweden's late run to pip them at the end. Once again the World Cup (in three meetings) has provided more excitment, entertainment and drama than an entire season of Grand Prixs.

 

It's been a brilliant week for speedway - but as usual the forum is full moaners

WEll I think it was agreat team effort and Rico please forgive me for saying that I thought you should be left out. You rode fantastic and I do think that you produced your best ever performance for GB!

 

It was a shame that we did not perform as well in the last few heats but it did give us a great deal more hope than I ever thought we had up to then.

 

I thought the track was not as good as I expected but I suppose Ole O had a lot to do with that.

[wotnoaj]

Another Magnificent Failure, don't us Brits just love them.

 

No, not all of us.

 

Some do, it gives them a chance to say I told you so.

[Stevie b]

Havn't read all 17 pages but from what I have read wanted to say well done to all the GB team.

For any criticsim to be leveled at any one is totaly uncalled for.

 

Bomber, appeared to be a bit like a cat on a hot tin roof, but that showed how much it meant to him. His helping hand to Bridger and his actions as captain were excellent and of course his non stop effort on track is what we see all the time from him.

 

Rico, was brilliant, from a riding perspective and as a team member and again you could see how much it meant to him.

 

Tai, did all that was expected of him and seemed unphased at having to race again after the start position cock up.

 

Danny and Lewis did not perform to their potential on the night but again it was not for the lack of desire or effort.

 

Interesting to note how many times our riders were in the lead or in the mix early on in the heats only to be passed by riders who seemed to have a lot more speed, so hope that will be looked at for the future.

 

Lastly Rob Lyons, how anybody can criticise him is beyond comprehension, compared to what we had last year he is a breath of fresh air.

Some people were saying before the event had even started that he was not up to the job, well that view can now be dismissed for what it is worth.

 

His honesty in saying he didn't know the gates were wrong is a credit to him and I bet he does not make that mistake again.

It was, quite frankly an embaressment seeing the body language and the effort of the team last year.

 

I can remember Roger Lobb being interviewed after his first maximum, which was against KL at the County Ground and him being modest and saying the opposition was not up to much, well you can't say that now Kings Lynn are not a top team by accident.

Missed the firs event but so far this has been one of the best World cups for a few years and GB made a good contribution to that and we would not have thought that a few months back.

[CMV06]

I could understand peoples desperation to reach the final if it was only every 4 years like the football, but it isn't. We only have to wait until next year and in the meantime Daniel King, Lewis Bridger and Tai Woffinden will have a better idea as to what they need to do to make the step up to the next level.

As for the personal abuse aimed at Rob Lyon, I'm afraid the only Di**heads and Fools are those who are too short-sighted to see genuine progress being made and the long term benefit that last nights performance could yield.

[doc61]

on the incident where the riders rode from the wrong gate, i started to think about the resposibility of the riders and the team.

 

now if gb were in the correct gate as per rob lyons programme as we have been told then why were british commentators and obviously the gb team wanting a rerun. if in their minds there was nothing wrong why the need to appeal?

 

if they were in the wrong gates as per jan s spreadsheet why was the danish rider sent out by his team to gate 4.

 

i didnt notice where the flag girls were located but if i was a proffessional rider and thought i should be off gate 2 and saw my flag at gate 4 i think i would query it.

 

someone somewhere got it wrong whether it was the programme printer the riders the management the flag girls.

 

maybe the ref had the same info as rob lyon so he wouldnt have noticed anything wrong because there wasnt anything wrong according to the programme.

 

maybe he should have said yes i agree you were in the wrong gates you are both excluded for riding from the wrong gates result will stand

[iris123]

It was also good to see Edward and Adam in the pits helping out and hopefully also learning from the experience.It is important to get the team spirit going like the Aussies(maybe Ryan disagrees)and Danes do.I know Patrick Hougaard was in Tarnow helping René Bach out in the European U19 final at the weekend,and there were plenty of Aussies in the pits last night.That is the sort of thing that needs to be going on......

[britmet]

What encouraging team spirit was shown last night !

 

I don't think we should see Scotty in this scenario again.

 

Well done Rob Lyon.

 

WELL DONE TEAM.GB

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[Adder]

I do not blame Scott Nicholls for not showing his face after being snubbed by the sad excuse of a manager that is Rob Lyon.

 

There is no doubt whatsoever that if Scott had been selected last night instead of King then Team GB would be looking forward to a World Cup Final on Saturday evening.

 

And I am saying this as no great fan of Scott believe me.

 

Lyon Out, Rosco In.

[emerald tyke]

Give Rob Lyon a chance...Rome was NOT built in a day. Why Rosco wat he got that Rob Lyon doesn't have then??

[BUDGIE]

Yes lets leave our best riders at home and not bother trying to win it for the next few years ,let the youngsters use the WTC as a practise session . .....

 

 

That is your opinion, to which you are entitled to, but its not mine and its not the opinion of the people who matter, ie the Team GB management