suzuki star 882 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I've been against slick tracks for GPs and the prep of the Showground showed why but is there another reason? Having visited KL some weeks ago for a stock car meeting getting covered with shale and dust is not everyone's idea of fun. It maybe ok for the enthusiast but not for newcomers. So is that in their minds? There is no excuse for dust at any meeting, stockcars or speedway, any time of day night/weather conditions. Dust is simply due to poor preparation and care during the meeting and shows poor regard for fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 There is no excuse for dust at any meeting, stockcars or speedway, any time of day night/weather conditions. Dust is simply due to poor preparation and care during the meeting and shows poor regard for fans. What about a hot summers day with the sun beating down on the track from the early hours of the morning with a gentle breeze blowing across the track..........your comment lacks respect to all the track curators up and down the country.........do you actually know what you are talking about? When it comes to track preperation, I don't, that's why I reserve judgement when a track is dusty (despite hating it as much as you)..........I agree that dust isn't great but to say "there is no excuse for dust at any meeting" and "dust is simply due to poor preperation" is out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Yes i agree with the GP's.Sorry for the misunderstanding.I was talking specifically about the SWC,which i think has been great entertainment so far.And has been over the years.Like i say,to a certain extent that has to be down to the riders.The different mix of riders compared to the GP's.If Ole is looking after the GP's and SWC meetings over the years why is there to an extent a difference?I would say down to the riders and not down to Olsen's track prep.Look at the Russian effort or danny King in Peterborough and Tai,Nicolai and Patrick last night.... Nothing to do with the disparity in quality of riders in the GP's of course.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Really iris!? Do you not think the GP's have been a huge let down in terms of entertainment? One or two decent tracks doesn't cut it for me, GP's should be staged on quality race tracks every time. From what I've been told, Ole wasn't overly pleased with Buster on Monday and was on the radio regularly to try and stop Buster doing it his way. I can't say that is fact as I wasn't there or part of the conversations, but I'm told that at times, Ole looked furious. As I stated before, Buster done what he wanted at P,Boro. Watching the meeting again on tv, you can see them wanting to go to the racing and the tractor was still out there.!! Its obvious that Olsen or BSI do not really give a toss as to what the fans want. However why can't the riders get together and state if track prep doesn't change then they wont race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Definitely time for a fan rebellion. What's the best way to set up a poll or a petition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydog Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Surely the most effective thing the fans can do is not go to GP or SWC events? But because fans have passion for their sport and/or their national team, can't see it happening, so BSI and Ole will continue to take the p**s, as long as our money comes with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Surely the most effective thing the fans can do is not go to GP or SWC events? But because fans have passion for their sport and/or their national team, can't see it happening, so BSI and Ole will continue to take the p**s, as long as our money comes with it! How will that happen? Fans are simply not organised at present. High time we were! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Definitely time for a fan rebellion. What's the best way to set up a poll or a petition? Think the Polish fans have already started judging by the No there on thursday!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Its obvious that Olsen or BSI do not really give a toss as to what the fans want. However why can't the riders get together and state if track prep doesn't change then they wont race. Ironically I think this could be one of the issues ....... it seems to me that some of them are only too happy for the tracks to be like this because their gating abilities, machinery and general skill ensures them their top 8 GP position even with follow my leader racing......... and slick tracks with no dirt end up with less incident to gain injury from...........tbh its just the same as the race director's agenda with the track prep...... it ends up changing the very nature of the sport..... speedway is dangerous and does involve spills and injury this for me is why Emil is so important as he indicates a changing of the guard that has been so secure and stagnant for so long and is what is fast becoming an old school style rider where he seems to be happy to give it a go on any surface........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hate to say it. But he got it right in poland for the restaging, although the rain at the end was beyond anyone's control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Hate to say it. But he got it right in poland for the restaging, although the rain at the end was beyond anyone's control Well i was there today and i never saw Olsen directing the track grading as far as i am concerned it seemed to be the local track guys organising everything as it should be at all the events i know its a little different with the temporary tracks we all saw how well it went at Peterborough on monday night and if this is how it can be without him poking his nose i suggest its time someone has the BALLS to give him the sack him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Think the Polish fans have already started judging by the No there on thursday!!! Think you'll find that was simply because Poland were straight through to the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 What about a hot summers day with the sun beating down on the track from the early hours of the morning with a gentle breeze blowing across the track Simple, you water the track constantly your comment lacks respect to all the track curators up and down the country Not all, some are very good, some are very poor do you actually know what you are talking about? Whilst I am not a track curator I have spoken to some so I do have some idea what is involved When it comes to track preperation, I don't, that's why I reserve judgement when a track is dusty (despite hating it as much as you)..........I agree that dust isn't great but to say "there is no excuse for dust at any meeting" and "dust is simply due to poor preperation" is out of order. I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 its difficult to know what to say about the track on Sunday tbh........ thankfully Ole does have more than a bit of experience in such matters and the decision he made to not touch the track overnight seemingly paid off............... I also think that despite the Aussies best efforts to turn their highly motivated and confident attitudes into negative ones that the track was absolutely fine after the restart the interesting thing for me is that out of 4 SWC final matches the two where imo the track has been prepared well have involved a huge dose of natural water along the way ..... which takes us full circle back to the subject of watering before and during the other meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 its difficult to know what to say about the track on Sunday tbh........ thankfully Ole does have more than a bit of experience in such matters and the decision he made to not touch the track overnight seemingly paid off............... I also think that despite the Aussies best efforts to turn their highly motivated and confident attitudes into negative ones that the track was absolutely fine after the restart the interesting thing for me is that out of 4 SWC final matches the two where imo the track has been prepared well have involved a huge dose of natural water along the way ..... which takes us full circle back to the subject of watering before and during the other meetings But it did rain at Vojens during the meeting......so maybe the watering before and during the meeting was affected by the knowledge that rain was on its way? I thought all 4 meetings were great entertainment(although i didn't see an awful lot of the Final...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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