Swc Event 2, Peterborough 13.7.

[Blazeaway]

You would go that far, I was quoting you, you used the word rubbish! This was always going to be a learning exercise, and not only did they perform better than many thought, they actually showed some real promise. How sad it is that all you can see is the scoreline, and not the potential. Sad, sad.

 

But what happens when the "potential" is reached like say Lee Richardson. Will they then be dropped? This year it's Danny King, last year it was Tai and before that we had Simon Stead. What is stopping riders reaching their potential? The only rider of the five on show last night with a real chance of being a genuine World Class rider is Tai. Bridger too stupid. Harris has reached his level. Kennett will never be any good on bigger tracks against decent opposition. Danny King may be todays flavour of the month but can anyone genuinely see him in the GP's?

 

Lets face it speedway in this Country is nowhere near big enough for riders to attract decent sponsorship, and while decent sponsors are walking away we will fall further and further behind. While our lads may have the raw talent which will get them through up until a certain point a lack of decent equipment will be a a major stumbling block.

 

Bridger was fannying around with five engines in practice yesterday but only two rolling chasis to swap them between. You won't win the F1 championship in a go kart.

[Namron]

I can't understand your prejudice against Team GB, Snyper, they are your representatives and they did you proud. Maybe you need to clean those Tartan-tinted glasses of yours?

 

There were plenty of Union flags in evidence, the team's T-shirts incorporated them and it said Team GB on the programme.

 

Mind you, you had to be there early to get one. Apparently only 2000 were printed and they'd disappeared by seven o'clock. Might have been the only evidence of poor planning since they'd pre-sold over 3000 tickets.

G'DAY" BIG FAT DAVE"

Regarding the programmes.

Myself (a pom ) and 8 Aussies from TOWNSVILLE, the PILCHERS , the BROWNING'S & KURT PALMER .Arrived at the stadium

at 19*15 bought our' progs' and enterd the stand to our seats. LATER during the meeting went and " waterd our horses "

and there was a " prog " seller by the toilet (dunny) ? and was still there at the end,

ALL THE BEST FOR THE REST OF YOUR TRAVEL'S

NAMRON

OXFORD

[rabbit]

Slightly harsh on Bridger there BA (Gawd never thought I'd be sticking up for Lewis!) - he's improving and learning. Not every rider can be an Emil and if he can add to his experience and build on it, it has to be a good thing, I'd not discount his learning curve so far simply because he's 'stupid' or hasn't made the GPs. He just needs to listen to the likes of Loram etc who are making themselves available to the team. Remember Rickardsson didn't win his first world title until he was 24 odd... Are we all getting carried away becuase we aren't getting instant success?

[spook]

Of course. The world cup isn't the place for testing new blood to replace aging stock, but what other opportunites are the BSPA exploring to cover the gaps. The GP scene is one, testing Wild Cards at Cardiff and arranging test matches, the later probably difficult these days with rider commitments etc. I'm sure we all agree that they should do more.

 

There just might be riders out there now, like in the past that flourish riding for Team GB. Naff at individual level, but like Danny King stepped up to the plate under pressure.. not a world star admittedly, but capable all the same. How will we flush out these riders? Peterborough was that opportunity, a classic example was it Phil Brown (the name escapes me) the 4x400 metre relay runner, not really that good as an individual runner, but as a team runner under real pressure.... completely world class. I'm sure there are British speedway equivalents to.

 

I remember that Phil Brown and he was a great team man............... maybe a decent GB speedway example is Phil Collins? He never set the world alight individually but was a good team man

[machinn]

Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere...

A site with an image of the extent of Nicki's injuries.

WARNING: It's pretty nasty, so if you're squeamish you have been warned

 

Nicki's injuries

[BigFatDave]

G'DAY" BIG FAT DAVE"

Regarding the programmes.

Myself (a pom ) and 8 Aussies from TOWNSVILLE, the PILCHERS , the BROWNING'S & KURT PALMER .Arrived at the stadium

at 19*15 bought our' progs' and enterd the stand to our seats. LATER during the meeting went and " waterd our horses "

and there was a " prog " seller by the toilet (dunny) ? and was still there at the end,

ALL THE BEST FOR THE REST OF YOUR TRAVEL'S

NAMRON

OXFORD

G'day cuz!!

 

I'm just going by the programme stalls up by the car park and directly below where we were in the stands towards the first bend near the Kirbys from Labrador, Gold Coast, they of the inflatable Kangaroo - if any arrived after my last python siphon I'll stand corrected but I do know there were a few complaints and one mate bought a programme which was a bit ratty with a creased cover and was told it was the "lucky last"! Mebbe they brought some more in?

[Hackett]

Of course. The world cup isn't the place for testing new blood to replace aging stock, but what other opportunites are the BSPA exploring to cover the gaps. The GP scene is one, testing Wild Cards at Cardiff and arranging test matches, the later probably difficult these days with rider commitments etc. I'm sure we all agree that they should do more.

 

There just might be riders out there now, like in the past that flourish riding for Team GB. Naff at individual level, but like Danny King stepped up to the plate under pressure.. not a world star admittedly, but capable all the same. How will we flush out these riders? Peterborough was that opportunity, a classic example was it Phil Brown (the name escapes me) the 4x400 metre relay runner, not really that good as an individual runner, but as a team runner under real pressure.... completely world class. I'm sure there are British speedway equivalents to.

 

 

It was indeed Phil Brown did nowt in individual meetings ... but give him a baton and an Englan vest and the fella could run.

[wotnoaj]

Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere...

A site with an image of the extent of Nicki's injuries.

WARNING: It's pretty nasty, so if you're squeamish you have been warned

 

Nicki's injuries

F*** me! That's not good, must have hurt like hell!

[liverpool chad]

I thought he was trying to entertain the crowd and get them geed up - something a lot of riders dont do nowadays

 

No he was celebrating Matej Zagar's exclusion from heat 13, which robbed the paying public from seeing a potentially better race. This shows a complete lack of maturity from someone of even his age. as i said before far too cocky without the talent to back it up.

[bigeddiechek]

Thought this event was a credit to British Speedway.

Was not impressed with Gollob in final heat though

[Big Diamond]

Good meeting the brits did okay but were never going to compete with Poland and Australia. Good experience for the riders very impressed with King little was expected off him but he deserves to ride on Thurday.

Edited July 14, 2009 by Big Diamond

[mickthemuppet]

What 9 from six rides wow .....Rico would have scored 13 or 14 ....King only can do one thing thats go round the outside full throttle a one trick pony with little talent

 

Great meeting but hard to bear getting crushed by 20+ points at home but being the only team not putting our best side out it was to be expected complete madness from lyon .

 

I think you will find that there were hardly any teams that had there best riders out whether it was by injury or team selection, so it was not just Team GB

If everyone scored what Danny King did this would be regarded as a fantastic performance

[spook]

No he was celebrating Matej Zagar's exclusion from heat 13, which robbed the paying public from seeing a potentially better race. This shows a complete lack of maturity from someone of even his age. as i said before far too cocky without the talent to back it up.

 

but no doubt viewpoints such as your own ... or maybe even his team manager's will be relayed back to him and maybe as was the keyword of the night.... he may draw some 'experience' from it ......... it is easy to forget how young these guys are

[liverpool chad]

but no doubt viewpoints such as your own ... or maybe even his team manager's will be relayed back to him and maybe as was the keyword of the night.... he may draw some 'experience' from it ......... it is easy to forget how young these guys are

 

As i said, "it was a lack of maturity even for someone of his age" So no it's not easy to forget how young these lads are. But i don't remember Peter Collins, Chris Pusey, Hans Nielsen, Erik Gundersen or even Kenny Carter acting like a 10 year old brat and showboating and believe me they all had talent and some at his age. Peter Collins was scoring 12 point maximums in foreign countrys in world team cup finals at 18!

So spare me the excuses.

[stevehone]

for the people still going on about Scott Nicholls not being there last night, have a think about it ....

 

there is a supposed rift between Nicholls and Harris isn't there.

now, if Nicholls had been there in the pits don't you think that would have created friction?

some of the team would have sided with Harris, some with Nicholls, and in turn that creates a divide.

what Rob Lyon is trying to create first and foremost is a bit of harmony between the riders, a sense of working together and for eachother .. if you have riders ignoring eachother that's not going to happen.

at Kings Lynn Rob has created a massive TEAM mentality, and it shows with riders that are there, riders you think might not be good will tend to come up trumps because they enjoy being part of what they do at KL.

now, i know people will say Lyon has no experience dealing with EL riders, but he has plenty of experience dealing with speedway riders, and creating the right mindset for a rider is a massive part of the job, whatever team you're in charge of.

 

last night you had English riders going out in each race with enthusiasm and balls, something thats been missing for a few years now, but this might just be the start of something good.

 

 

R.E Gollob in heat 25 .. i was stood next to the pits and 3 riders were let out and then the pit gate was shut .. why??

Steve Brandon of Sky then shouted at the marshalls to open the gate and Gollob put his goggles on and went out .. too late though.

ok i accept he may not have been too bothered, but it looked like he was shut in.

[CheetahJake]

Fantastic meeting, and a very gutsy display by the young Brits.....maybe the selction of Richardson and Nicholls would have gleaned a few more points than (probably) Bridger and King but there is no way on earth we would have won the meeting so selecting those two would have served no purpose whatsoever. As it stands our 'strongest' side (which would include Nicholls according to some but I wouldn't have picked him anyway) is nowhere near good enough at the moment so this is the way forward.

 

Australia & Poland were full of experience and Grand Prix appearances last night so its no surprise that they both finished way ahead of us....if these five lads are kept together for the next few years there is no reason why we can't be World Champions in that time. In addition the next batch ie Haines, Mear, Auty, Roynon should be taken along to Lezno on Thursday for a taster so that they know what to expect when their turn in the squad comes.

 

Of course the problem of youth development lies deeper but last night was a start.....and its refreshing to read that the vast majority (Rosco worshippers excepted) are behind Rob Lyon and his vision. He will succeed, of that I have no doubt.

 

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Now is the time for a vision for the future. From some of the comments I've read on here, there are those who cannot see beyond their own noses. Stick with the TEAM of the future and look to generating even more young British talent. Rob may have the National Team Manager's job, but it is the responsibility of all British Promoters/Managers to develop young British talent. We had the Middlo years when the National Team Manager complained that there were too few British riders to pick from, but nonetheless managed a British Elite League team consisting of not one British rider. Wake up you British Promoters and Managers, if you are not prepared to commit to a solution, you yourselves are in fact the problem.

[stevehone]

my pictures from the SWC Event 2 PRACTISE HERE

[Grachan]

Peter Collins was scoring 12 point maximums in foreign countrys in world team cup finals at 18!

 

20.

[Noodles]

The 50/50 raffle was not drawn on the night:

 

The winner is pink ticket 476-480

 

If you are the winner please email info@peterboroughspeedway.net for further details.

[liverpool chad]

20.

 

My mistake, Peter Collins was actually 19 years old (born 24 march 1964). So i will split the difference with you