HenryW Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Don't get me wrong Henry, I'm haven't formed my opinion on the basis of what happened tonight. I do remember the Danes moaning about the Poles replacing an under performing rider. Again though, in most other team sports, you can replace an under performing member of the team with a substitute. I don't see why Speedway has to be different, it would be the same for everyone. It would surely be much better than seeing races with only three riders. Ah right...Well you will see from another post of mine that I completely agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Stupidity from Pedersen. FFS, am I watching a different race from anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpool chad Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Utter utter twit. So ban me..... So the throttle does only go one way! Please except my apologies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 A rider actually said it in an interview once years ago. If a rider is quicker and is going to pass you, you may as well let him work for it and leave a bit of room rather than both ending up in the fence and out for weeks. He then went on to say the Americans were the most gentlemanly when leaving room, the Brits were the worst for closing the gap. Perhaps it just doesn't happen anymore, hence why nobody has heard of it. So one rider says it years ago, and it's fact... As i said in my last message, is a rider who's leading supposed to have eyes in the back of his head ? Riders like Hancock and Wiltshire, as much as it pains me to say, were a few years ago, easy to pass once they felt a rider was within 10 yards of them and they then rode lines that were easily passed on. I can't remember any other rider ever bottling it simply because of some stupid fantasy gentlemans agreement about letting a quicker rider pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 So the throttle does only go one way! Please except my apologies No, the throttle goes two ways, but it's no help when someone turns right on you at 75mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 what the hell has happened on this forum? is it really acceptable to be giving out unintelligent abuse? grown adults or children? henry well i'll trust your better memory.... what I remember from that interview was Nicki taking things to the nth degree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 But why was the dirty dane going for run that would take him past the point of no return had the ruski not moved over Pedersen wasnt quicker and would have only ended up embedded in the fence, again his lack of trackcraft shows him up. Good riders dont get in such positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatekeeper522 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 what the hell has happened on this forum? is it really acceptable to be giving out unintelligent abuse? grown adults or children? henry well i'll trust your better memory.... what I remember from that interview was Nicki taking things to the nth degree :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the spread Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 As for the crash, I have to say that whilst the reserve system is open to serious abuse, it is something that needs looking at. Nicki's carted off in an ambulance after a bad crash and Denmark have to run with no rider? Might be the rules, but that's poor IMO. The same thing happened last year in the Final at Vojens when Crump was injured in his first race. When they had an extra rider, in case of injury, it was abused with Team Managers pulling out riders who weren't going well but who were not injured at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 The same thing happened last year in the Final at Vojens when Crump was injured in his first race. When they had an extra rider, in case of injury, it was abused with Team Managers pulling out riders who weren't going well but who were not injured at all. That's why the reserves rides need to be limited to 3 max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I see that Davey Watt has stepped in for Schlein. Still leaves the Aussies looking strong throughout, could go all the way this time. Blimey they will be hard to live with then wouldn't they!? The Ashes and the World Cup, BFD will be in his element! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 As i said in my last message, is a rider who's leading supposed to have eyes in the back of his head ? I'm sure he didn't need eyes in the back of his head to know Nicki was there...Those bikes are a bit noisy To be honest, I think Greg WAS intending leaving room for Nicki until he lifted....I was actually getting mad, shouting at the TV telling Greg to move out and close the door before he lifted.... I also think the lift was the reason for the exclusion...It was a really tough decision. I think the fact that Jan and Hans both said that it was difficult one to decide on suggests that they probably think Nicki was the one that would normally go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 That's why the reserves rides need to be limited to 3 max. But....ermm....If a rider gets injured in his first race, surely all his races should be able to be covered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 again his lack of trackcraft You don't become multi world champion by having a lack of trackcraft. Surely even a Swindon supporter can see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpool chad Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 No, the throttle goes two ways, but it's no help when someone turns right on you at 75mph. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. IMO the russian rider held his line and Pedersen made the wrong decision in the split second it takes to make that decision. You think that the russian moved out off his line and gave Nicki Pedersen no alternative but to hit the back of him. I can accept this opinion, but do not necessarily agree with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 But....ermm....If a rider gets injured in his first race, surely all his races should be able to be covered? Been proven to be open to abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIE-JA Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. IMO the russian rider held his line and Pedersen made the wrong decision in the split second it takes to make that decision. You think that the russian moved out off his line and gave Nicki Pedersen no alternative but to hit the back of him. I can accept this opinion, but do not necessarily agree with it. So you didn't notice the Russians front wheel in the air then? It's racing, things don't always work out as the competitors intend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I see that Davey Watt has stepped in for Schlein. Still leaves the Aussies looking strong throughout, could go all the way this time. Blimey they will be hard to live with then wouldn't they!? The Ashes and the World Cup, BFD will be in his element! He'll have a hard job - he broke his ankle last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. IMO the russian rider held his line and Pedersen made the wrong decision in the split second it takes to make that decision. You think that the russian moved out off his line and gave Nicki Pedersen no alternative but to hit the back of him. I can accept this opinion, but do not necessarily agree with it. Well we'll just have to agree to disagree then. I'm not saying the Russian did anything on purpose, & they rode brilliantly tonight, but give Nikki a break, he was completely innocent in what was a purely racing incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Been there on the first bend, just where NP were fenced. Had a great evening seen through KB glasses, but not so good through the DK-glasses. I was around that part as well.Talked to Ivan and Lasse before the meeting.Hope to see Lasse and Kenneth together in the DSL soon Talked to Nicolai as well before the meeting and he was hoping for 8 points,so should be pretty happy....but Niels and Bjarne?????? Heard Nicki said he won't be fit for thursday....but the decision will be made on monday.Then again i heard he has a couple of burns on his leg....but not in really bad places....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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