Lis Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Hard -Yes. Dirty - No. Pedersen put himself in a difficult position, if you watch every other heat all riders are going on the line Laguta took down the home straight. Hope Pedersen isn't too badly hurt. He is out rest of the night,and rest of next week got a nasty 2nd degree burn on his leg.nicki is flying to england tonight.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I think the ref overall was probably correct in excluding Laguta because he didnt have to close the door that much ..........but as has been said all season Nicki keeps putting himself in these positions and expecting either a parting sea or for himself to keep bouncing off the fence, bikes and track and to get the ref decisions......... most riders would have backed off down the straight there because of the % chance of griefhence why is some ways the russian was unlucky, the dirty dane has done the same loadsa times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 really enjoying this.....permanent track - no ruts or bumps, decent amount of dirt on the track, two / three racing lines creating some decent racing........better than ANY GP I have seen so far this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 most riders would have backed off down the straight there because of the % chance of grief And they are the riders who won't make it as world champion. Nicki wasn't unfair or dirty - he was just commited to trying to win the race. Totally agree that there should be reserves or the other riders should be able to take Nicki's ride.Seems ridiculous that the Russian was excluded yet Denmark weren't given a chance to score in the re-run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper-racing.co.uk Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 watching a replay of the crash Nickis front wheel is wobbling violently or even buckled way before impact - was this also a cause of the crash? Very odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Thought Pedersen was unlucky. Laguta just totally shut the door. Thats not fair racing. Niki does keep putting himself in these situations though. Even had Laguta left him some room, I dont think Niki would have got round him. Never know I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Really enjoyed that! Fantastic performance by the Russians, with Emil inspiring the other guys to ride out of their skins. Great to see them pulling off that victory, hope for more of the same next Saturday. Means the run-off on Thursday will be even more tasty than expected with both the Danes and the Swedes in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don'sfreelancerider Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 watching a replay of the crash Nickis front wheel is wobbling violently or even buckled way before impact - was this also a cause of the crash? Very odd Front wheel got caught on russians foot rest. The russian caught a bit of grip that drifted him out abit to niki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjl Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Now I know I have pig flu as I cannot be responsible for my postings ------ I found myself cheering on Denmark I need to rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper-racing.co.uk Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Thought Pedersen was unlucky. Laguta just totally shut the door. Thats not fair racing. Niki does keep putting himself in these situations though. Even had Laguta left him some room, I dont think Niki would have got round him. Never know I guess. To be totally honest this guy was in front and you ride where you wanna ride when your in front. Why wouldnt he close a gap - he doesnt want to get passed - this is racing. Nicki dives for gaps that arent theyre and seems to get himself into trouble. The gap was there and it was closed. I cant really see how Laguta could do it on purpose unless he has eyes in the back of his head. I thought it was a racing situation where really both could be at fault and would be either a double exclusion or both back in the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 watching a replay of the crash Nickis front wheel is wobbling violently or even buckled way before impact - was this also a cause of the crash? Very odd His front wheel got hit by Laguta's footrest and thats the only reason for the wobble, quite frankly it was a hard race and I'm suprised Nicki wasn't excluded as he could have shut off being behind and may have done better cutting back under Laguta. Overall, a great display by the Russians and the race off meeting should be tight with Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain and Poland or Australia in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Hans and Staechman (?) both said it could have gone either way. Says it all I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 To be totally honest this guy was in front and you ride where you wanna ride when your in front. Why wouldnt he close a gap - he doesnt want to get passed - this is racing. Nicki dives for gaps that arent theyre and seems to get himself into trouble. The gap was there and it was closed. I cant really see how Laguta could do it on purpose unless he has eyes in the back of his head. I thought it was a racing situation where really both could be at fault and would be either a double exclusion or both back in the replay. That's how I saw the situation. Laguta never looked for Nicki so there was no malice yet did seem to leave him little room - but that's racing. Could have gone either way.. but Nicki can't say the referees are against him now Oh my Enjoyed the meeting. Some good racing, close scores and a totally unexpected result. Good stuff, the only downer being Nicki P pulling out, made the meeting poorer IMO and I wish him a speedy recovery. As for the crash, I have to say that whilst the reserve system is open to serious abuse, it is something that needs looking at. Nicki's carted off in an ambulance after a bad crash and Denmark have to run with no rider? Might be the rules, but that's poor IMO. As for the Russians, just what do you say. Sayfutdinov as you'd expect was brilliant, the rest all did a great job in backing him up. Once again "Laguta the Scooter" (copyright Tony Millard ) impressed me but he wasn't the only one. Had a decent team but somehow they pulled together and were the best on the night and it was a fully deserved victory. Saturday should be interesting indeed and the Danes and Swedes going to the race-offs is a simply mouth-watering prospect when the Aussies or Poles will be there aswell, barring anything untoward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shankley Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) its about time that speedway supporters reconised that there is other countries aswell as denmark, sweden and great britan.it does speedway good to see other countrys doing well instead of seeing the same old boring speedway.as for nikki pedersens crash he tried to go where no man should have gone/ Edited July 13, 2009 by AndyM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 The crash was just a racing incident Nothing dirty. Comgrats to Russians!! That was a surprise!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) I thoroughly enjoyed that. Well played to the Russians, excellent all round display. The amount of ability Sayfutdinov has just continues to amaze, he's mustard! No malice in the Laguta/Pedersen incident but it does demonstrate how desperately this system needs team reserves. I would limit them to 3 rides max, use at any time. Edited July 11, 2009 by frigbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Great performance from the Russians, some great gating plus also passing from behind when needed. Regarding the crash, Laguta was right to be excluded but it was racing accident. Pedersen would have closed the door exactly the same way if he had been in front. Just unfortunate he got his front wheel stuck on Lagutas footrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 And they are the riders who won't make it as world champion. Nicki wasn't unfair or dirty - he was just commited to trying to win the race. Totally agree that there should be reserves or the other riders should be able to take Nicki's ride.Seems ridiculous that the Russian was excluded yet Denmark weren't given a chance to score in the re-run. to be world champion you also have to avoid injury...... even a Neilsen special slide off can result in injury...... its been a dangerous game he has been playing all that said hopefully his injuries are not too serious Incredible performance by the Russians and a pretty good meeting all told with some interesting lines and decent racing Mr Snapper..... i'm interested how much of that you felt was team spirit and how much was machinery? There is no doubt that the Russians' tails were up but imo the machinery was bang on right from the start....... and once again Emil's machinery was head and shoulders above anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 That's how I saw the situation. Laguta never looked for Nicki so there was no malice yet did seem to leave him little room - but that's racing. Could have gone either way.. but Nicki can't say the referees are against him now Oh my Enjoyed the meeting. Some good racing, close scores and a totally unexpected result. Good stuff, the only downer being Nicki P pulling out, made the meeting poorer IMO and I wish him a speedy recovery. As for the crash, I have to say that whilst the reserve system is open to serious abuse, it is something that needs looking at. Nicki's carted off in an ambulance after a bad crash and Denmark have to run with no rider? Might be the rules, but that's poor IMO. As for the Russians, just what do you say. Sayfutdinov as you'd expect was brilliant, the rest all did a great job in backing him up. Once again "Laguta the Scooter" (copyright Tony Millard ) impressed me but he wasn't the only one. Had a decent team but somehow they pulled together and were the best on the night and it was a fully deserved victory. Saturday should be interesting indeed and the Danes and Swedes going to the race-offs is a simply mouth-watering prospect when the Aussies or Poles will be there aswell, barring anything untoward. Agree with you, but have all Russians suddenly got bikes that quick?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shankley Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 To be totally honest this guy was in front and you ride where you wanna ride when your in front. Why wouldnt he close a gap - he doesnt want to get passed - this is racing. Nicki dives for gaps that arent theyre and seems to get himself into trouble. The gap was there and it was closed. I cant really see how Laguta could do it on purpose unless he has eyes in the back of his head. I thought it was a racing situation where really both could be at fault and would be either a double exclusion or both back in the replay. i agree with you 100 pre cent snapper.niki is a racer and doesnt do himself justice with his reputation he has done worse then the russian has done to numerous top guys and thought nothing of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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