iris123 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 It's all about money and they will want to Cardiff to be as full as possible. Having only 1 brit in the GP legitimately would risk the crowd level being affected. Rightly or wrongly I think they will want 2 brits. I don't understand the argument.If GB have one rider in the GP's they will still be able to have another at Cardiff.......why is it neccesary to have 3 riders at cardiff to bring the crowd in?Is it really going to affect the crowd so much to have 2 struggling riders instead of 1?Maybe we should lobby for a few more to struggle in the series then,so Cardiff will finally sell-out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Totally agree with that point Iris. Having 2 Brits rather than 3 on parade in Cardiff would have a negligable effect on the attendance. Hopefully Harris will qualify by one method or the other, but unless Nicholls comes on strong in the second half of the season I can't see any justification for him to get a nomination. As for the other Brits, not one of them managed to get through any round of the qualifiers, so it's hard to see any of them coping with GP's in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Lee Richardson is continuing to do his chances no harm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Lee Richardson is continuing to do his chances no harm! agreed, he is by far the best British rider at the moment. My revised WC picks: 1.Hampel 2.Richardson 3.Holder 4. Nicki P/Antonio L/Zagar It depends on if Nicki can manage to get back to defend a top 8 position. If he cant he should be awarded a WC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb the Snail Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm a big fan of the best 15 riders in the world being in the series irrespective of nationality, but if GB has a seeded place then surely it has to be Rico's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarabanko Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm a big fan of the best 15 riders in the world being in the series irrespective of nationality, but if GB has a seeded place then surely it has to be Rico's. agree! And the same goes for aussie Chris Holder who are ready racing wise for the gps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUKEYBOY Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 My picks would be 1. Chris Holder 2. Matej Zagar 3. Lee Richardson 4. Rune Holta/Kenneth Bjerre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashdad Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 i would pick holder and lindback dont rate kennett and woffinden thinks he is better than he actually is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 King is a must for a wildcard and then maybe Kennett . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJTyrrell Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Despite going to the last six or seven GPs at Cardiff I still do not see what all the fuss is about. Yes, its noisy, colourful and smelly and held in a great stadium, but after the final race just what has the winner won? Apart from seeing some of the world's top riders live instead of on the tele every week the meeting sometimes reminds me of the old 'Kings of Oxford' trophy when the best riders would compete in one of several 'open' meetings around the country. Great to see the top riders but the winner won a cup, a few bob and that was it, we'd all go home! Personally I think that the GP is akin to the circus coming to town. Last year it had three knife throwers, one trapeez artist and two clowns, this year its got two knife throwers, three clowns and some galloping horses because the trapeez artist fell off the swing in Denmark and broke his colloar bone. But the organisers are confident the crowds will still come because this year they've included a local escapologist who escapes after being changed into a large tank of water. Or they hope he will. Give us a break! How do we expect anybody to take our great sport seriously when we include riders in a supposedly world class event who have failed to qualify by selection, or from the small qualification process that there is. The whole system is flawed from top to bottom when included riders are 'chosen' and the winner is called 'world champion' when the majority of riders in the world don't even get a chance to enter. Having said that, how many of the riders mentioned in this thread would reach the last round in a proper qualification system? Oh yes, before you suggest, I am a dinosaur and, despite what J_D says, the only foreign country I would ever contemplate going to to see a GP would be Wales! Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Despite going to the last six or seven GPs at Cardiff I still do not see what all the fuss is about. Yes, its noisy, colourful and smelly and held in a great stadium, but after the final race just what has the winner won? Apart from seeing some of the world's top riders live instead of on the tele every week the meeting sometimes reminds me of the old 'Kings of Oxford' trophy when the best riders would compete in one of several 'open' meetings around the country. Great to see the top riders but the winner won a cup, a few bob and that was it, we'd all go home! Personally I think that the GP is akin to the circus coming to town. Last year it had three knife throwers, one trapeez artist and two clowns, this year its got two knife throwers, three clowns and some galloping horses because the trapeez artist fell off the swing in Denmark and broke his colloar bone. But the organisers are confident the crowds will still come because this year they've included a local escapologist who escapes after being changed into a large tank of water. Or they hope he will. Give us a break! How do we expect anybody to take our great sport seriously when we include riders in a supposedly world class event who have failed to qualify by selection, or from the small qualification process that there is. The whole system is flawed from top to bottom when included riders are 'chosen' and the winner is called 'world champion' when the majority of riders in the world don't even get a chance to enter. Having said that, how many of the riders mentioned in this thread would reach the last round in a proper qualification system? Oh yes, before you suggest, I am a dinosaur and, despite what J_D says, the only foreign country I would ever contemplate going to to see a GP would be Wales! Regards The "chosen" rider at the GB GP is not actually "chosen" as you suggest , maybe you need to look at the qualifying a little closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 I think we need to go back to the old GP challenge system - seeding riders is wrong for a world championship, the only justifcation would be if a genuine top 8 rider is injured and misses the cut. I would suggest; Top 8 automatically requalify Bottom 7 plus 9 from qualifying rounds contest a GP challenge for last 7 spots. It stops the closed shop GP system, gives you 15 riders who deserve to be there and prevents the ludicrous situation of riders in the series fdoing the qualifiers. If the series is devoid of any Brits they still have a Cardiff wild cards and the chance to re-qualify next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 I think we need to go back to the old GP challenge system - seeding riders is wrong for a world championship, the only justifcation would be if a genuine top 8 rider is injured and misses the cut. I would suggest; Top 8 automatically requalify Bottom 7 plus 9 from qualifying rounds contest a GP challenge for last 7 spots. It stops the closed shop GP system, gives you 15 riders who deserve to be there and prevents the ludicrous situation of riders in the series fdoing the qualifiers. If the series is devoid of any Brits they still have a Cardiff wild cards and the chance to re-qualify next year. I was just going to suggest having the top 8 automatically qualify plus any rider/s that would have been in the top 8 if they had not been injured with the remaining places going to the top GP challenge finishers but I see that you have suggested it already so I will simply second your sensible idea. This way it will encourage riders like Scott Nicholls to try and requalify because it will be easier with more places available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Sod all this 'commercial' nonsense. If a British rider qualifies via the challenge , then good luck to them.But , for the credibility of the sport we need the best riders out there , not seeded riders who arent up to the task. I'd support any Brits in the GP's , but if none are in it tough luck. I want to see the best compete, not people who are there for commercial reasons Its not going to happen, so you may as well forget about it, they have an investment to protect and you never know that by having a couple of English riders in the gp it may keep the sport on Sky TV, thus protecting its (all be it small) spot in the public eye. King is a must for a wildcard and then maybe Kennett . Agreed! Did you not see how he out gollobed Gollob safrican american Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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