paul84 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Its fairly clear that Scotty and Bomber aint going to make it into the top 8 in this years GP series. So the question is Who if anyone do you think will be seeded through to the 2010 Gp series? Lets hope Bomber can do the buisness at Coventry in the challenge, If he fails to do so and we dont get any British riders seeded it will be a sad day watching the Gps without a British representative. I think Nicholls is clearly in his last year of Grand Prix racing and with him not being in the challenge either i think we can safely say after 2009 we wont see him on the world stage again. I think the Rob Lyon approach must be taken if there are to be any Brits seeded through to next years series, im sure given time and experience on the Gp circuit the likes of Eddie Kennett, Tai woffinden and even Lewis Bridger will make the grade in the next couple of years (I hope). Some may be of the opinion that if a rider doesnt make it to the GP off there own back then they shouldnt be there... I agree to a certain extent but i look forward to the day the likes of Holder and Ward hit the big time just hope we've got a Brit or two up to challenge them Edited July 6, 2009 by Stoney=Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 There is no way that at least one Brit wont be in the series! It would make bad commercial sense for the FIM! I agree neither of our Brits this season will make it, but i think Bomber will be in it next season either by qualifying through the final qualifier or as a wildcard. I also think we may get a second rider in through the wildcards! Tai or Eddy i believe will be offered a wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisB Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Bomber will be one of the seeds. Nicholls needs a miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) I also think we may get a second rider in through the wildcards! Tai or Eddy i believe will be offered a wildcard. well there are several riders that deserves WC before any of those two Edited July 6, 2009 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) There is no way that at least one Brit wont be in the series! It would make bad commercial sense for the FIM! I agree neither of our Brits this season will make it, but i think Bomber will be in it next season either by qualifying through the final qualifier or as a wildcard. I also think we may get a second rider in through the wildcards! Tai or Eddy i believe will be offered a wildcard. Id really like to think your right, a bit of fresh blood riding for Britain in the Gps would be nice. As said before im sure it will help them as riders! But it is hard to see a real serious contender for the next British world champion..... The Gps are so hard and With riders like Emil,Ward,Woffy,Holder and even who Andreas Jonsson (Just to name a few) who in my eyes have a World title in them. Edited July 6, 2009 by Stoney=Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 There is no way that at least one Brit wont be in the series! It would make bad commercial sense for the FIM! I agree neither of our Brits this season will make it, but i think Bomber will be in it next season either by qualifying through the final qualifier or as a wildcard. I also think we may get a second rider in through the wildcards! Tai or Eddy i believe will be offered a wildcard. Tai or Eddy getting a wildcard (nomination) would be a joke. Neither got through their initial qualifier and then when Tai was given a second bite he again failed to make the cut from the Semi. Would make a mockery of the qualifiers if someone got a pick who couldn't even get through one round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 well there are allot of rider that deserves WC before any of those two Thats the problem with British speedway on the world stage. I was at Eskilstuna on tuesday and watched Woffinden get 5 points from 5 rides in the reserve races. Kennett was scoring 3, 4, 3 from his 12 rides in 3 Swedish league meetings for Vargarna, he also came 11th in the 4th GP qualifying meeting with 5 points. How could anybody take a GP seriously with that standard of rider, just because of nationality. The qualification should be widened to include all riders interested in riding, with the best 14 joining the WC and local wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 well there are several riders that deserves WC before any of those two Tai or Eddy getting a wildcard (nomination) would be a joke. Neither got through their initial qualifier and then when Tai was given a second bite he again failed to make the cut from the Semi. Would make a mockery of the qualifiers if someone got a pick who couldn't even get through one round. Thats the problem with British speedway on the world stage. I was at Eskilstuna on tuesday and watched Woffinden get 5 points from 5 rides in the reserve races. Kennett was scoring 3, 4, 3 from his 12 rides in 3 Swedish league meetings for Vargarna, he also came 11th in the 4th GP qualifying meeting with 5 points. How could anybody take a GP seriously with that standard of rider, just because of nationality. The qualification should be widened to include all riders interested in riding, with the best 14 joining the WC and local wildcard. Agree 100% with these posts.It would be a very bad joke if Nicholls,Woffinden or Kennett were given a wc for next seasons GP's.I'd rather see Smolinski in,and he wouldn't be able to hold his own either.But at least it might give a boost to the sport in Germany.Whilst yet another British wc would just allow the complacency to set even further in.............when they really need a kick up the arris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Dont get me wrong i agree that there are riders out there from other nations that probably do deserve a wc ahead of the young brits, but i just think the FIM may opt to have 2 brits like the past few seasons and given that i cant see Scott or Rico getting it, it could well be young Tai or Eddy. Tai especially has picked up his form on the continent well in Poland at least and IF he wins the world u21s i think he has a good chance at being offered it! Also talking of how they did in the qualifiers i believe Chris Holder went out very early last season but still got offered a wc (although he turned it down). But hey until the final gp qualifier, world cup and world u21s have been raced as well as the world champs who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimbledonDon Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) TBF Rico could have got to the GP's by merrit this year... if he didn't with drawn to sickness on the semi qualifier for the GP's so unfortunatley it was just Chris Harrisky & Tai & Lewis to battle, and all went out (except Harrisky!) so really if harris makes the GP's or not, the WC for GB should be Rico. tbh Rico's been on better form than ever over the past year or so... not to mention he is technically "the best brit" only brit to race in the top 3 leagues in the world... Swedish, Poland, British (and has 8+ average in all leagues ) - all top league Bomber rides Second Division in Poland Scotty rides top leagues also but has struggled in polska & british - but has had a few good meetings in Britian, but has done better over in Sweden - but still struggled. So really, Wild Card Please Rico? Edited July 8, 2009 by WimbledonDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin' Along Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Bomber still in with a chance at the GP Challenge? If it goes well, he may not have to be seeded through. Personally, given that Nicholls has been seeded through this year and done chuff all, I would give a place to Eddy or Tai over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimbledonDon Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Bomber still in with a chance at the GP Challenge? If it goes well, he may not have to be seeded through. Personally, given that Nicholls has been seeded through this year and done chuff all, I would give a place to Eddy or Tai over him. If Nicholls will get offered the WC, can i have it instead... Harris has a chance to make the top 8 & the GP Challenge (and if both fail... will then be seeded - makes alot of sense to me ) BRING RICO BACK! He's ready to be... "THE MAN" again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Tai or Eddy getting a wildcard (nomination) would be a joke. Neither got through their initial qualifier and then when Tai was given a second bite he again failed to make the cut from the Semi. Would make a mockery of the qualifiers if someone got a pick who couldn't even get through one round. Better that than someone so far up his own a**e that he doesnt feel the need to enter the qualifiers in the first place. Bomber and Rico for the 2010 gps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I honestly do understand the sense in Rico but the guy is nearly 30 and aint going to get any better now, he had his best chance a few years ago and didnt do a lot. If GB are going to be successful in the future in world cups etc, we need the youngsters to be riding in the GP series. Its nothing against Rico he is a top bloke and if it were between him and Scotty for the wc, well there is no choice, if Rico had gotten in through the qualifiers fair play but the future is the likes of Sayfudtinov, Ward, Holder, Woffinden and co. So i would hope the FIM look at how the russian has performed this year and give the younger guys a go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipphlopp Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Sod all this 'commercial' nonsense. If a British rider qualifies via the challenge , then good luck to them.But , for the credibility of the sport we need the best riders out there , not seeded riders who arent up to the task. I'd support any Brits in the GP's , but if none are in it tough luck. I want to see the best compete, not people who are there for commercial reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_D Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Sod all this 'commercial' nonsense. If a British rider qualifies via the challenge , then good luck to them.But , for the credibility of the sport we need the best riders out there , not seeded riders who arent up to the task. I'd support any Brits in the GP's , but if none are in it tough luck. I want to see the best compete, not people who are there for commercial reasons Although i agree with what you are saying in priniciple, without commercial sense there will be no GP series in places like Cardiff, Parken and Ullevi. From speaking to one of the old BSI lot when they were in charge at Reading they had data that showed that British based fans spent the most per head of any fan and the most willing to travel abroad to GP's. The Polish were the biggest volume of fans but actually spent little. I doubt BSI could risk having no Brits involved, the same could be said for Danes, Swedes and the Poles. I would rather the GP series was the best 16 riders in the world but i do not believe the GP Challenge offers that. Rarely do the best riders qualify only the ones that performed on that given day. Seeding riders can soften this. However I would prefer a qualifying system that involved a minimum of 5 meetings the season before across the continent on a variety of tracks both big and small and based on the same GP scoring system to condition riders and truely get the best. Previous years top 6 riders are excluded from having to race in this qualifer and if they fall out of the top 6 the following year they get seeded the following year to stay in the series but then have to race in the qualifers and qualify or finish back in the top 6 to remain in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Whether its right or wrong, we all know that Brits will be given wildcards for commercial reasons. I think Bomber will get one and out of Tai and Eddie, I'd go for Tai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 I think a wildcard spot is reserved for Bomber, if he qualifies via the top 8 or gp challenge, then we may get a wilcard choice, I would suggest thats up for grabs for anybody that shines in the WTC. If Bomber misses out I cant see how we can have 2 wilcard choices again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevtheRev Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 It's all about money and they will want to Cardiff to be as full as possible. Having only 1 brit in the GP legitimately would risk the crowd level being affected. Rightly or wrongly I think they will want 2 brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_D Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 It's all about money and they will want to Cardiff to be as full as possible. Having only 1 brit in the GP legitimately would risk the crowd level being affected. Rightly or wrongly I think they will want 2 brits. Exactly, Bomber will get a place as he is one of the few entertaining riders in the GP series this year. I bet if someone was to work out and the passes for / against in the opening 3 gps then Bomber would be top of both lists. Tai may put bums on seats but Rico may get the nod if if still has his big sponsorship following that benefited BSI when he was in the series before. I am sure BSI would love Pepe Protsiewicz to qualify again due to his sponsors input into GP speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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