lucifer sam Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I've no problem over Scott and Emil - it was heat of the moment stuff which they later regretted and apologised for. These things happen. However, the actions of Ashley Holloway is a different matter altogether and needs addressing. Holloway's actions were those of a thug. He should be banned from the GP pits. Incidentally, I also have no problems with the riders having a bit of handbags - it gets heated out there and the odd bit of handbags is good for the sport. But the pit crew have no right to get involved, and if they do, they shouldn't be down there. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_O Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Agree with those who say the Nicholls/Sajfutdnov incident was nothing more than some adrenalin over flowing in the heat of the moment. As for Ashley Holloway...takes a cheap shot at Nicholls and kept on running, 2 words....GUTLESS COWARD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Emil was fined $100 more for approaching Scott and starting the whole incident and both were fined the same amount for the fighting Interesting interpretation TNT. Would like to know where you heard this as it is not quite what I have heard. However the figures are correct - $100 more for Emil. i found a picture at swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter;Scott's right Hook Great picie - and Im bet the guy on the far left was pleased the punch landed otherwise he may have a shiner this morning!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercover Elephant Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Agree with some of the more intelligent posters on here who deal in facts, not, what they want to see! In a nutshell I believe Emil should get the bigger fine, just.........but the FIM MUST take action against Ashley Holloway for his ridiculous actions. Totally unacceptable and a complete cowardly act on his behalf. This matter had nothing to do with him, and if I was any respectable person involved in the Nicholls camp, I'd make an official complaint. An example needs to be set, as other mechanics could go down the line of getting involved on their riders behalf, and that would open a whole can of worms. Well done Jason Crump, and shame on the referee who showed no consistancy regarding the Nicki Pedersen exclusion. I wonder what Chris Harris made of that incident when he saw it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Sorry to go back to the action before they bump into the open pit gate again, but I don't think anyone has mentioned that Scott appears to use his left foot to push Emil's bike away as they approach the pit gate. I'm guessing that this could be to stop Emil's foot-rest from damaging his bike, but it could equally be seen as an attempt to stop Emil from getting to the pit gate entrance. Scott doesn't appear to be trying to make the right turn to get into the pits either. Not sure whether this was intentional, or whether this was a result of them being in some way locked together by their equipment / bikes. Pure speculation on my part, but I thought I'd join in as it seems to be the order of the day around here! Clearly the red-mist had long since descended on the pair of them and neither of them were thinking clearly by that time. What followed has given the sport some much needed publicity, but for the wrong reasons. Sadly I've seen this all too often with a sport I follow, ice hockey, where the only press coverage it gets domestically is when there is a bench clearing brawl. I only wish we were talking about the superb racing and overtaking on the track instead! But the that doesn't appear to be the priority in Speedway GP land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMV06 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I'm fed up with people running Scott down at every oppurtunity, Sayfutdinov was behaving like the spoilt, petulant brat that he clearly is and Scott just reacted. While I'm at it, Scott gets slagged off for 'daring' to not ride here this year, being called unpatriotic and a disgrace, yet no-one seems to worry about or slag off Rune Holta for choosing to be Polish ffs. I for one hope that he gets picked for team GB for the SWC as pound for pound, I still think he is one of the best we've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwayleics Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I find the title of this thread to be mis-leading my friend. It seems at a quick glance that you actually know what has been handed out, rather than you asking to know what it was. No I don't know. I had originally posted this in General Speedway but it has been moved in to the middle of this string. It's still my forum title but for some reason I'm not at the top? Still don't know if the GP result has be declared official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Seems Speedway will get plenty of coverage from the bust up..... Daily Mail Daily Mirror The Sun The Telegraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashdad Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) dont think scott did anything wrong but glad to see some will go toe to toe with him for a change about time some one had a go back Edited June 29, 2009 by ashdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 strange that when ever there is hassle be it domestic or sgp scott is involved. about time he took up another trade. hope its not boxing though after that display Hey I know, The know you could take him under your wing and teach him to install a stair lift at the local old peoples home. Actually, best I ask your wife, I forgot she makes all the business decisions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedUnitedUnited Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 ah well....least out sport is getting mentioned now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Holloway's actions were those of a thug. He should be banned from the GP pits. All the best Rob Indeed, fiery response from young Ashley. Lets just hope he never finds anyone in bed with his girlfriend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Now this is teamwork! Having a local trackman holdingthe Russian back laughing and giving Scott a real chance to land one in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) The punch up is also number 3 on The Guardian's "Our Five Favourite Things This Week" list......... And 50,000+ views on You Tube..... Edited June 29, 2009 by Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 ah well....least out sport is getting mentioned now Maybe Scott should send the BSPA an invoice for all those column inches , Help to pay his fine and a bit left over for some better engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) The punch up is also number 3 on The Guardian's "Our Five Favourite Things This Week" list......... And 50,000+ views on You Tube..... well I hate to say it but that is publicity that you cannot buy............. that is the kind of thing that gains fans edit: lol FSP Edited June 29, 2009 by spook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramekin Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 The best thing that can be said about this incident is that will get some publicity for speedway! You could argue that's a bad thing, but some say any publicity is good publicity! Seriously, there seems to be a lot of over reaction to the incident. As one poster has intimated, it was an overload of adrenalin from both riders, although I must say Sayfutdinov did seem to instigate the incident after the race by appearing to continue the "conversation" after Nicholls appeared to say "cool it, this is GP racing & that's what happens". Personally, I don't think Nicholls did anything wrong in defending his position & as one wag next to me observed "He was lucky it wasn't Nicki, or he would happen drinking out of the Taff by now!" What I do find disappointing, however, is the many so called "British fans" having a go at Nicholls, who, if you take the time to actually talk to him is one of the nicest guys you could meet. He is having a really tough time of it at the moment & it seems that many are jumping on the bandwagon of abusing him because of that. All riders go through it - Jason Crump has had a tough couple of years, Hans has had a very tough start & Leigh Adams is all over the shop but they don't seem to get the same criticism. Nicholls hasn't asked for any sympathy or special treatment & he seems to be trying very hard to make it all happen. It's an incredibly tough job, which 99% of us could/would never do, but sadly, we in this country do seem to have the habit of knocking our own. Going back to the incident itself, the punishment handed out is neither here nor there really, did any of it really hurt anyone? Probably not, but I guess the powers that be had to make a point. However, the person who merits a proper punishment is Ashley Holloway. His shoulder charge at Nicholls on his way up the tunnel was nothing more than a cheap shot & he should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. Perhaps his actions should be investigated & dealt with accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Indeed, fiery response from young Ashley. Lets just hope he never finds anyone in bed with his girlfriend! Fiesta, is there something you'd like to own up to then? All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 He is having a really tough time of it at the moment & it seems that many are jumping on the bandwagon of abusing him because of that. All riders go through it - Jason Crump has had a tough couple of years, Hans has had a very tough start & Leigh Adams is all over the shop but they don't seem to get the same criticism. Nicholls hasn't asked for any sympathy or special treatment & he seems to be trying very hard to make it all happen. It's an incredibly tough job, which 99% of us could/would never do, but sadly, we in this country do seem to have the habit of knocking our own. sadly before this it seemed he was getting stick simply for things like.... being given wildcards..... never winning a GP..... remaining the same standard within the gp's I dont understand the attitude either......... as fans we can all get frustrated by shouting for a guy who we know doesnt gate well and hasnt had great machinery for a few years now but he is who he is and before this season he was always in the top 9 in the world despite ever slickening tracks......... I dont see that as any reason to have a go and ive thought for a long time that some of the professional Nicholls knockers need to get things into perspective....... either he has been riding to his natural standard or he hasnt (until this season of course) If they need to blame anyone for their frustrations then they need to blame the riders who didnt come through to knock Scott off his perch........... and if thats unfair then blame the promoters who have been too busy bringing through Danish Aussie and Swedish riders due to their free asset registration status and low assessed averages After Jenn's post i'm thinking well done Scott and Emil because in a few minutes of madness over hard racing that was 'soft' for guys like Olsen, Neilsen, Briggo etc they have managed to bring speedway to more new people in a way that will make them sit up and take notice than IMG and the BSPA combined over the last year..................... it could well be a new twist to anything we have been used to with speedway but ive been saying for a while that the wrestling approach would get bums on seats...... controversy works.. ask Ian Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 ....maybe spook,but don't you think having Michael Buffer introducing every heat with....."Let's get ready to ruuuuummmmbbbllllleeeeee" would grate after a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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