Cornishman Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 The only problem theres every been is Scotty being jealous that all of a sudden Bomber was better than him, won a gp and continues to be more successful. Same reason he rode Emil into the fence last night, whereas the old Scott Nicholls would have said something then ridden off back to the pits. His toys spend more time out if the pram than in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Same reason he rode Emil into the fence last night, whereas the old Scott Nicholls would have said something then ridden off back to the pits. He didn't ride Emil into the fence at all, not during racing or the afters, Emil didn't like being beaten by him simple as that & it was he that shoved him by the pit gate & took the first swipe. Though i have to say it was more my handbags better than yours than a punch up. Just a question? Why do you think Emil has had the larger fine slapped on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Though i have to say it was more my handbags better than yours than a punch up. Oh I don't know. That upper cut to the chin was pretty nifty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) Same reason he rode Emil into the fence last night, whereas the old Scott Nicholls would have said something then ridden off back to the pits. His toys spend more time out if the pram than in it Did you watch the GP or are you just Guessing what happened, because Scott never ran Emil, one Punch Sudjfutinov into the fence!. Scott wanted to go down the tunnel but Emil pushed him into the airfence pit gate, Emil also threw the first punch, get your facts right pal!. Edited June 28, 2009 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 He didn't ride Emil into the fence at all, not during racing or the afters, Emil didn't like being beaten by him simple as that & it was he that shoved him by the pit gate & took the first swipe. Though i have to say it was more my handbags better than yours than a punch up. Just a question? Why do you think Emil has had the larger fine slapped on him? Did you watch the GP or are you just Guessing what happened, because Scott never ran Emil, one Punch Sudjfutinov into the fence!. Scott wanted to go down the tunnel but Emil pushed him into the airfence pit gate, Emil also threw the first punch, get your facts right pal!. Sorry, but yes i did watch,it happened right in front of where i was sitting. Im talking about the after race indicent, not the pass as that was hard but fair. Scott was on the outside and Emil had nowhere to turn but into the pit gate as obviously he couldn't brake. Scott rode into the pit gate himself, and made no attempt to go around it. And whilst we're on it, Scott pushed Emil away with force first, so i would say that was the 'first swipe' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirls Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Did you watch the GP or are you just Guessing what happened, because Scott never ran Emil, one Punch Sudjfutinov into the fence!. Scott wanted to go down the tunnel but Emil pushed him into the airfence pit gate, Emil also threw the first punch, get your facts right pal!. Dont think so, entrance to pit gate was to the right of them when they went into the fence and Emil was on Scotty's left, so how did Emil ride Scotty into the fence, when the opening was on Scotty's right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 And whilst we're on it, Scott pushed Emil away with force first, so i would say that was the 'first swipe' First swipe was the verbal abuse from the sore losing Russian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 First swipe was the verbal abuse from the sore losing Russian Dont you get smart with me Yeh obviously Emil being an immature, insert appropriate word here, was the cause of the incident. But the first physical move was from Scott. Although the first punch was Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelW Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 emil started it by approaching scott, where they had words, and scott prob told him to grow up and thats racing, if you watch the clip scott holds his hand up, as to say leave it prob tells him to <obscenity removed> and warns him off, but emil comes back and the shoulder barging and pushing starts, then it kicks off, this all happened right in front of me whilst trying to get my camera turned on, i was abit upset with how scott behaved and after the match i had washed my hands off him. BUT after seeing it on the tv once i was home i saw what really happened and wish it had happened on a different corner where there was less marshalls to break it up, this has been coming a long time if it wasnt scott it would of been nicki. so i wont be joining the wagon like alot of people did when bomber won the gp i will still support scott wear my scott shirt and hat at every meeting i go to or just to the pub, you only need to watch heat 15 to see the boy still has it, he's had a tough start to the season lost alot of confidence and just needs to rebuild it, speedway or racing in fact is a very pyschological game take a look a JT ( james toseland) he had to two big offs in pre seasons testing and has took four or five meeting to get his confidence back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 emil started it by approaching scott, where they had words, and scott prob told him to grow up and thats racing, if you watch the clip scott holds his hand up, as to say leave it prob tells him to <obscenity removed> and warns him off, but emil comes back and the shoulder barging and pushing starts, then it kicks off, this all happened right in front of me whilst trying to get my camera turned on, i was abit upset with how scott behaved and after the match i had washed my hands off him. BUT after seeing it on the tv once i was home i saw what really happened and wish it had happened on a different corner where there was less marshalls to break it up, this has been coming a long time if it wasnt scott it would of been nicki. so i wont be joining the wagon like alot of people did when bomber won the gp i will still support scott wear my scott shirt and hat at every meeting i go to or just to the pub, you only need to watch heat 15 to see the boy still has it, he's had a tough start to the season lost alot of confidence and just needs to rebuild it, speedway or racing in fact is a very pyschological game take a look a JT ( james toseland) he had to two big offs in pre seasons testing and has took four or five meeting to get his confidence back. Top Post.... someone that can see things with some perspective. All anyone has to do is look at Scotts body language, he is suffering in a big way. Some may say he deserves it, but personally I don't think he does. Way too many people on here are only too willing to jump on the guys back, akin to kicking the preverbial dog when its down (As they do with a multitude of other riders). Scott has been a fantastic servant to British Speedway, shame that some people have such short and bitter memories. If he goes out and scores a heap of points for Team GB in the SWC, these same people slagging him off will be hailing him as a hero no doubt. Chuffed to see Scott show some passion, even if took Emil the tart to wind him up. As was said earlier, if it wasn't Scotty, then it would have been someone else. The kid is losing the plot and with a manager/advisor, aka Andy Holloway, acting like he did too, its no wonder Emil is behaving like a spoilt brat. That man should be calming the kid down, not throwing his weight around and setting a bad example. Whatever anyone else says, Scott will be welcome back at Ipswich, if the story doing the rounds is true, welcome home Scotty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwayleics Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have had a look around but cannot find any details of the FIM jury's decision regarding Scott and Emil. Has anyone heard about the punishments handed out (if any) I noticed on the SGP website that until the FIM jury decide on the fate of the 2 riders, the Cardiff SGP result is not official. I would imagine that to mean that Scott and Emil may lose points. I'm trying to run a Fantasy Speedway Comp but need the British GP results to be confirmed! Just on another quick point, do you think it hurts the head of the guy being punched on the crash helmet or the guy's fist throwing the punch? mmmm I heard Emil's team manager say on TV that he had gone to see the Doc to get his head checked out.......physically not mentally!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I apologise for not linking but I have no idea which thread I read it in ........but I believe someone has posted that they received $600 fines each Ive heard it said before that being punched while wearing a crash helmet is actually no fun and can cause injury due to the way that the helmet snaps the head back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 He didn't ride Emil into the fence at all, not during racing or the afters, Emil didn't like being beaten by him simple as that & it was he that shoved him by the pit gate & took the first swipe. Did you watch the GP or are you just Guessing what happened, because Scott never ran Emil into the fence!. Scott wanted to go down the tunnel but Emil pushed him into the airfence pit gate, Emil also threw the first punch, get your facts right pal!. Dont think so, entrance to pit gate was to the right of them when they went into the fence and Emil was on Scotty's left, so how did Emil ride Scotty into the fence, when the opening was on Scotty's right side. Scott did start to ride back but after a few words were said, Scott pushed Emil away first, thats a fact and a turn to the right for Scott would have seen him head back into the pits, not leaning left ! Just a question? Why do you think Emil has had the larger fine slapped on him? Emil was fined $100 more for approaching Scott and starting the whole incident and both were fined the same amount for the fighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK Rides Again Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'd read $300 for Nicholls and $500 for Sayfutdinov (why would it be a Dollar fine, surely Euros would be more appropriate?), but I don't recall any link being posted to back that up. As for being punched while wearing a helmet, it does make your ears ring for a couple of minutes, but I reckon the bloke that did the punching would have some knuckles that smart for a few days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 As for being punched while wearing a helmet, it does make your ears ring for a couple of minutes, but I reckon the bloke that did the punching would have some knuckles that smart for a few days! I do suspect that is about the only smart aspect of this incident. Rob McCaffery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 its like if you hit your head on the track even with a helmet you will get a sore head and ringing. Im pretty sure Scott had a few bells going haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Boy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I don't know about Scott, I would have thought Emil heard the bells. Scott maybe having a tough time on the bike at the moment, but there ain't nothing wrong with his right hook!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubsy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) I think they will both get over it but what got my goat was the mechanic purposfully running into Scott.He derserves no less than banning for 12 months he had no right to go near a rider even if he was emotionally upset. This incedent should be the main concern of the speedway bodie Edited June 29, 2009 by bubsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I'd read $300 for Nicholls and $500 for Sayfutdinov (why would it be a Dollar fine, surely Euros would be more appropriate?), but I don't recall any link being posted to back that up. As for being punched while wearing a helmet, it does make your ears ring for a couple of minutes, but I reckon the bloke that did the punching would have some knuckles that smart for a few days! Probably because the prize money awarded is in dollars, but I dont know why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykydpoole Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Emotions and handbag's , well at the very least it gave Scott a chance to wake up and get the adrenalin running again,and as for Emil well youth is there and again good to see hunger and fire in the belly.No damage done just Prada's at close range....However flash moments happen ,Scott has been there before ,Niki,Gollob, Hans, just to name a few... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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