Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Im saying that he doesnt do it as often as your making out. I dont think he races a heat looking for an oppertunity to go down. I dont like riders that play the ref etc if i felt Hans was one of these guys i would never be a fan of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) Well then the ref, myself United and Spook not to mention a certain guy called CHRIS HARRIS must be wrong. Well if you are correct fast forward to the rerun and substitute Andersen For Harris. exactly the same incident but that was Nicki Pedersens fault. Great refereeethey should let him do all the GPs . or better still let you be the referee maybe you could help Hans Andersen to his first and only gp win Edited June 29, 2009 by speedibee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 first and only? LMAO do you know anything at all about speedway? Hans has won 4 GPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 You are so wrong. Bomber had to go. No ifs, buts or maybes. He took Andersens wheel away and that was that. A shame but for some of th crowd to boo Andersen was farcical. Harris made the error not Hans. And personally I wanted the ref to call it wrong and put Bomber through but it was never going to happen. so in the rerun Andersen was in the wrong then . Thanks at least that part is cleared up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Im saying that he doesnt do it as often as your making out. I dont think he races a heat looking for an oppertunity to go down. I dont like riders that play the ref etc if i felt Hans was one of these guys i would never be a fan of his. how often am I making out that he does? I am saying that you would have to be blind to not recognise that this is in his repertoire..... and that it is closely related to his riding the man habits and sometimes dubious square bends......... they all centre around what the other riders are doing and how he can trump/bully/exploit them and that of course involves making the most of the gaps inbetween the rules.......................... as ive just said though I think he loses out of it more than he gains over a period of time ........ when you become distracted from the fast line .... start opening gaps on the inside because you are obsessed with taking rider X wide on bend 2 ... the plot is starting to be lost are you seriously saying that he didnt make a dogs dinner of coming off his bike? (any youtube footage?) im just repeating myself here but while the rules are set up the way they are then the rules are the rules but no one likes darkside tactics in football so its very unlikely that they will go down well in speedway............. which may well explain for you why some of Hans decisions over time have created animosity towards him..... and I think judging by general feeling this will be added to the catalogue........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Well if you are correct fast forward to the rerun and substitute Andersen For Harris. exactly the same incident but that was Nicki Pedersens fault. Great refereeethey should let him do all the GPs . or better still let you be the referee maybe you could help Hans Andersen to his first and only gp win sorry but it wasnt the same incident.... it was bend 1 not bend 2.... they were entering a bend not exiting...... I agree that the decision was incorrect but that kind of incident is seen every match and meeting and should nearly always result in a restaging with all riders however I would like to point out that Hans did turn later going into the bend and that was possibly the reason for the incident... strange bike?..... intentional?....who knows but it still should have been all riders back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 first and only? LMAO do you know anything at all about speedway? Hans has won 4 GPs Not really .Althouhg I have Watched a couple of GPs on SKY when theres been no Tiddlywinks on, And a bloke who I sit with at my I.A. meetings tells me some stuff from when he used to go , Any other "facts" etc I just make up as i go along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) Not really .Althouhg I have Watched a couple of GPs on SKY when theres been no Tiddlywinks on, And a bloke who I sit with at my I.A. meetings tells me some stuff from when he used to go , Any other "facts" etc I just make up as i go along I noticed that along time ago. To claim that Hans hasnt won a GP shows you really are a fool. Yet you claim im a disgrace to my club. Atleast i know what im talking about. Edited June 29, 2009 by Snyper1010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I noticed that along time ago. To claim that Hans hasnt won a GP shows you really are a fool. Yet you claim im a disgrace to my club. Atleast i know what im talking about. Yes you are absolutely right . What a fool I am you are a credit to your race and to your club . I must have been mad to offer an opinion that differs to yours . I am so embarrassed at my lack of Knowledge that I will do my best not to post on any threads that you post on unless I agree with what you're saying . And why would I not agree with someone who is always 100% right . please accept my apology for having the audacity to argue with the Oracle of speedway .I Shall go now and hide in a darkened room . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Hans Andersens GP record is not an opinion its FACT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) To be fair to Hans, he did what he had to do. He got stuffed up in the corner and then Chris obligingly caught his front wheel, not very hard mind but Hans had a quick decision to make and whether its liked or not, he made the right one for him. He did go down easy but the referee had no choice but to exclude bomber. Its a bit like in football when a player gets a touch in the penalty box and goes down. I think Bombers ironic thumbs up to Hans as he walked past him in the pits was his way of saying well done, you stitched me up there. With Pedersen, he too went down a bit easily but there was a big contact and all 3 back would have been the fairest decision. I thought Pedersen was out of order for having a moan about Hans' pass on him on the last bend of heat 20 I think it was, as there was a gap and Hans found it fair and square. Edited June 29, 2009 by Pearcey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Yes you are absolutely right . What a fool I am you are a credit to your race and to your club . I must have been mad to offer an opinion that differs to yours . I am so embarrassed at my lack of Knowledge that I will do my best not to post on any threads that you post on unless I agree with what you're saying . And why would I not agree with someone who is always 100% right . please accept my apology for having the audacity to argue with the Oracle of speedway .I Shall go now and hide in a darkened room . To be fair to Hans, he did what he had to do. He got stuffed up in the corner and then Chris obligingly caught his front wheel, not very hard mind but Hans had a quick decision to make and whether its liked or not, he made the right one for him. He did go down easy but the referee had no choice but to exclude bomber. Its a bit like in football when a player gets a touch in the penalty box and goes down. I think Bombers ironic thumbs up to Hans as he walked past him in the pits was his way of saying well done, you stiched me up there. With Pedersen, he too went down a bit easily but there was a big contact and all 3 back would have been the fairest decision. I felt he went down like a girl . However you are right, he'd been stuffed going into the corner, was out of control and Bomber only clipped his front wheel, but it was enough for him to attempt his swan dive....more like Ugly Duckling though, it was so obvious, but it was enough to get Bomber excluded, and yes Nicki should not have been excluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Oh for goodness sake, yes bomber should have been excluded as there was contact. Ref made the correct decision, not so sure about the nicki one though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipphlopp Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I've heard somewhere that this is against the rules. If you were to think about it on a broader scale, if say Jason Crump were to lend Eddy Kennett a bike in the GP that would immediately go against all the pre-approved odds that the bookies put together. I'm sure that this is not allowed. We'll only know in due course! So what are you saying ? That the odds compilers at Skybet and Willy Hills take into account all the intricascies of everyones machines before laying odds? What codswallop.Bookies lay odds on the riders , not the bikes . Bike swapping would actually benefit them more , because it could end up with even more unexpected results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Thats like saying a footballer changing boots would affect the odds you got on his taem winning. There is nothing wrong with borrowing a bike. Hans had a second one but it wasnt ready to race it hadnt been warmed up and im guessing the settings would of been no where near right for the track. So Emil stepped in and offered his bike to Hans. Yes Emil had his own reasons for this namely the world standings, but Hans was having his first good GP of the year why should he of turned it down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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