spook Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Why ? King is never going to cut it on a world stage and so picking him is waste of time on both fronts . based on what? on an average vs age basis I'd say that he is still looking good.... as I said earlier what I would like to see him achieve is a couple of consecutive seasons showing improvement rather than one every two years Ken Bear didnt exactly look on course a few years ago after the previous few years of treading water on the same average and yet the Danes put the effort in and lo and behold not only is he a genuine GP rider, a genuine member of the SWC team but also a genuine heat leader in all 3 leagues In fact the Danes are quite a good example here arent they? It wasnt so long ago that they found themselves in a similar position and had to work hard at bringing through a new crop of guys ............ just as the Poles did............. some guys dont make it and some do...... maybe King wont...... or maybe he will and Tai won't??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I will luagh my ** off when Danny top scores, he wont give up and he is not a gating tart. Well done RL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I will luagh my ** off when Danny top scores, he wont give up and he is not a gating tart. Well done RL. The danes are gating tarts that what wins you world cups not being half a lap behind trying hard . King can't even beat Stuart Robson on his own track but now we put him v Gollob and Co but hey it better to try hard and score 0 rather then score 10 or 12 points by making good starts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieE Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I think that team selection is a good one. I think it's the right move to leave Nicholls out, the world cup break may well do him some good and help him sort his form out, atleast it will be a whole week where his performances won't be in the spotlight for one reason or another. I'm surprised to see Rico left out, i've never really been a fan of his in the past but he seems to be doing quite well of late and has a good record in the world cup, hopefully he'll be included should GB get through to the Polish rounds. It's refreshing to see some new riders in the team though, and it's mostly riders who have upped their game this season and importantly are probably the riders with the most confidence. I think it could work well, afterall 2005 was another year when the 'youngsters' got a chance (Harris and Stead) and i thought there was a real feeling of excitment at Swindon that day seeing those two do a pretty good job on their debut, hopefully the event at Peterborough will be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliv Clav Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Richardson is GB's top rider, former Peterborough rider and was 0.1 outside the track record on his last visit a few weeks back. Rico also to his credit has done more racing this year than I have ever seen him do. He used to throttle off quite often, when in close proximity to others, but he has rarely done that this year. Surely,we could have done with his gating skills against the World's best too? Guess Lyon thinks the first round is a lost cause, so give the youngsters some experience, and bring in Rico for the Polish round. No surprise about Nicholls being left out though really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazza Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I think that the introduction of the younger riders will only be good for their experince but what they need is a rider to lead from the front, with experience and a rider who will definately score 10+ points in each meeting. Unfortunately, Team GB don't have that 1 rider/ Rico comes closest but I don't think he is able to lead from the front and can be inconsistent like all the other GB riders. Will be interesting to see how this young team does against the very strong Aussie and Polish teams. Slovenia could score quite a few and surpise people as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtobeat Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 My opinion is Steve doesn't only want King to fail he wants Rob Lyon to fail as Rossiter was his preferred choice Spot on in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Brave move naming a young team, but lets face it, even being held at Peternorough, Team GB wont beat Poland and Coventry even with Scott and Lee in. The only worry in this must be the fact the team finishing fourth go out straight away and Slovenia will have Zagar and Vaculik in the team who could easily score 25 between them at EoES. I sincerely hope not as that would be a major cheat.I would hope one of the officials is eagle eyed enough to spot that Vaculik has a Slovakian passport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I agree that Scott should not be in at Peterborough it's not a good track for him even when his form is good. King is a surprise, but he did well for them at home last season so i know where Rob Lyon is coming from. Both Scott & Rico should be in for Leszno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Anyone any idea what the Slovenian team is likely to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Does not matter who we have in the team for Peterborough, the Aussies will win it and GB and Poland will go through to the race off. That's why Peterborough match is a boring event and you may as well give young riders experience. When it comes to the final, then that's a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybtee Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Whatever the team selection .would it not be possible to arrange a match for them at the peterborough track before the qualifier? They could pick a team to give them a decent practise,or is that to simplistic.Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 The danes are gating tarts that what wins you world cups not being half a lap behind trying hard . King can't even beat Stuart Robson on his own track but now we put him v Gollob and Co but hey it better to try hard and score 0 rather then score 10 or 12 points by making good starts . nicholls and rico would score 10 or 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighrico Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) nicholls and rico would score 10 or 12? Rico would most probably score 10 or 12 which I think that's who orion was referring too. As orion said and he is spot on with, you need to be able to gate to have any chance of scoring decent points at the Top level and the only british rider who's any good at that is Rico. Edited June 30, 2009 by leighrico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 So is Chris Harris the new captain of GB If I remember correctly Scott was named as Captain when the squad was announced. So maybe its now up to Scott to show his true British Colours. He doesnt need to ride to captain the team, just be there and support the boys and Rob. I really hope he is there with the squad along with all he other riders named!!!! Everyone has written us off before we even turn up - I just hope the team are reading this - it may just spur them on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Richardson is currently our best rider. The guy doesn't have a clue. Totally agree Steve. If there isn't an underlying reason why Rico hasn't been selected then this is a joke decision from a comedy manager. King a kid? We are waiving the white flag already with this choice. I said when Lyon was appointed it was madness and so it is proving. He has no experience outside the PL and it's showing through like a beacon.. Surprise, surprise. EL fans putting the boot in. I would have thought it was obvious to anyone that Rob Lyon knows exactly what he is doing and has chosen to blood our younger riders. That doesn't necessarily mean that he is right, though............ Rubbish,(to Gemmilou) riders need to earn their places in the team and just because they are young doesn't mean they should be given a chance. I am all for bringing in the youngsters, but surely you put your best team out for the WTC. If Lyon wants to blood youngsters, get some internationals organised. .............. because I agree with you here. While I am all for striking a balance between youth & ability, Richardson is our best rider at the moment and you just don't leave your best rider out - regardless of his age. I am going to an U21 Test match at King's Lynn a week on Saturday................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 but this is the trouble isnt it? In Denmark you wouldnt just be given the green light for some friendly internationals for the kids .......you would find yourself with a budget bigger than youd know what to do with and the authorities bending over backwards to accomodate the extra fixtures In Britain it would centre around a congested fixture list and just how much a promoter is willing to risk injury to his valuable rider.............. and we all know the answer to that one........ It is no suprise for me that our national teams struggle financially when the authorities themselves have shown for far too long that they just dont care ..... if they dont care why should sponsors? why should the riders? Someone has said that Rob Lyon is looking into arranging some friendly fixtures...... well *newsflash* its practically July....... any particular reason for leaving it what is almost certainly impossibly late? I truly hope that this decision indicates that Rob Lyon has some backing behind him on this one and that the promoters are serious about a positive future ......because like most things they rule on this cannot be allowed to be a decision made on a whim and instead be the start of a more solid plan that is backed up at league level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Anyone any idea what the Slovenian team is likely to be? The Slovenian team: Matej Zagar Maks Gregoric Izak Santej Denis Stojs Aleksander Conda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 The only worry in this must be the fact the team finishing fourth go out straight away and Slovenia will have Zagar and Vaculik in the team who could easily score 25 between them at EoES. Surely Vaculik hasn't done a Holta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ashie Smashy Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 So the youngsters are in. You would think Scott and Rico are pensionable age. They are 30 at most with a lot of years ahead. Hancock is 39, Gollob roughly the same. You are not seriously comparing Scott and Richardson to Hancock and Gollob? There is a reason the latter are able to race long into their twilight years, and that is because they have class oozing out of them in speedway terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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