KiddlyKestrel Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) "Better to be a bridesmaid than not getting an invite to the wedding" Adder my boy... we had a lovely day in 2006 and previously in 1999.....the sun didnt shine but all our boys looked wonderful in their outfits, with those winners medals glistening around their necks soaked in champagne and twinkling in the floodlit sky Remind me... when was your big night again? This monkey will forever be on our backs, it doesn't make our opinions mean any less. Daniel King was useless on Thursday at Swindon. No doubt he will be better at the EoES but it still won't be enough to get GB into the Race-off yet alone the Final. If he struggles to beat young Sedgman, will he get any closer to Adams or Zagar Edited July 3, 2009 by KiddlyKestrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I dont care about his "past" the guy is a legend and has a great depth of knowledge - both on track and about the bikes being a highly skilled tuner. Id still look up to him as a mentor. You don't care about his past but you think he's legend ? if you don't care about his past how can someone be a legend with logic like that Lyon might let him stand with in the pits One thing or sure with lee as mentor there knowledge of how to grow plants indoors wil be top class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Great team well done Rob Lyon someone with some guts as team manager! The past riders have rightly gone in with the new. Cant wait for the world cup now we have a team we know will improve in years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Man Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Great team well done Rob Lyon someone with some guts as team manager! The past riders have rightly gone in with the new. Cant wait for the world cup now we have a team we know will improve in years to come. Agree with you Stoney=Legend Rob Lyon has the ability to take riders and get them to ride as a Team, there's no doubt the work he has done at Kings Lynn is tremendous, getting them to work as a Team. This is a chance to build for the future, to be a true Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Agree with you Stoney=Legend Rob Lyon has the ability to take riders and get them to ride as a Team, there's no doubt the work he has done at Kings Lynn is tremendous, getting them to work as a Team. This is a chance to build for the future, to be a true Team. correct im not saying we're going to win the world cup or anything like that, but our lads will gain valuble experience which will certainly help the future of british riders, Good start to the team GB job from Mr.Lyon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 no need to build for the future in a few years time because by then some new youngsters will replace this bunch and so it goes on - seen it happen in other sports. i think we might surprise a few at peterborough but whatever the ages of any rider, the team should be your strongest one and i don't think it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave C Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Rob Lyon deserves much credit for the team he has selected. He has stuck to his guns in terms of bringing through the younger riders into the team, and I am sure that they will respond positively, to the trust that has been placed in them. I didn't know anything about him before his appointment, but I have been impressed with him in the interviews he has given. I think it is unfair to single out the selection of Danny King for criticism, as I don't think he will be the weakest link in the GB team at Peterborough, and I am sure that Richardson will be waiting in the wings for the Leszno play-off. The omission of Nicholls is completely justified at this moment in time, as it would not have benefited either the team, or Scott himself. Hopefully the tracks will be prepared properly throughout the competition, so that the standard of racing lives up to expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 has everyone received there tickets for peterborough yet cuz im still waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Ordered ours the first day they came out and still not got them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedUnitedUnited Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 same here danny king needs to improve no end after last nights abysmal peformance....poor gating and gifted the 6 points in 14, is to late to make changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedUnitedUnited Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) http://www.peterboroughspeedway.net/news.php?extend.577.2 about tickets Edited July 7, 2009 by UnitedUnitedUnited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Good to see Rico riding well tonight and he even passed Adams in one race,pity he aint quite good enough for team GB though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Good to see Rico riding well tonight and he even passed Adams in one race,pity he aint quite good enough for team GB though Oh he is good enough, just not young enough apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysquashman Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Oh he is good enough, just not young enough apparently. I think that Rob Lyon does have his own vision, but hope he is not arrogant enough to never backtrack. I believe we have a disaster of a team to watch this World Cup. Bring on youth I am all for that but this should be done with good experienced riders as well. To think Scotty and Rico are has beens is foolish. Rico is in great form this year after a couple of years with niggling injuries and Scotty seems to be turning a corner. I can see us in great danger of hardly getting a race winner. To drop both Scotty and Rico was poor judgement...................England still pick the 'has been' Beckham don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I agree we should give youth there chance,as we did last year with Tai,but also think it should be a gradual introduction not this gung-ho attitude this year,either rico or scott should have been in the team as back up to Bomber,I fear the likes of lewis and danny could get quite demoralised,only my opinion tho.Picking peterborough against the aussies and poles is hardly the brightest idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoestringtours Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I think that Mr Lyon should have picked one of the two of Nicholls or Richardson. Me personally I would have gone for Richardson as he has been riding good of late. You only need a good score of 12-13 from Mr Zagar and his compatriots getting a couple apiece and it could be "nan-night" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I agree we should give youth there chance,as we did last year with Tai,but also think it should be a gradual introduction not this gung-ho attitude this year,either rico or scott should have been in the team as back up to Bomber,I fear the likes of lewis and danny could get quite demoralised,only my opinion tho.Picking peterborough against the aussies and poles is hardly the brightest idea. And riding at Coventry proved a success - even with Coventry riders included in the team? I think not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Its a shame that we have a world cup roung in this country and we dont get to see our best riders,because if Rico can beat Adams at Swindon,he must be going very well and should have been included.King maybe an ex panther but hes not in the same class and has no chance of getting many points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) I think that Rob Lyon does have his own vision, but hope he is not arrogant enough to never backtrack. I believe we have a disaster of a team to watch this World Cup. Bring on youth I am all for that but this should be done with good experienced riders as well. To think Scotty and Rico are has beens is foolish. Rico is in great form this year after a couple of years with niggling injuries and Scotty seems to be turning a corner. I can see us in great danger of hardly getting a race winner. To drop both Scotty and Rico was poor judgement...................England still pick the 'has been' Beckham don't they? I just dont understand what it is that people dont 'get' about this we dont have a 'Beckham' ..... Nicholls and Rico couldnt be described in any shape or form as 'Beckham' ...... if they were Danish or Polish they would be Kasprzak or Walasek....... in the squad but not a definite...... they certainly arent David Gollob or Tomasz Beckham Rob Lyon is not calling them 'has beens' ..... he is not saying that's it with them he is saying quite correctly that our team has not been of the standard required to win something and to do something about that it means the standard regressing slightly while at the same time the youngsters are brought on more quickly........... keep them in and nothing changes...... make a decision like this and something might change for the better I wonder just how many of those in this thread moaning about/lamenting the decision have also had a moan about the last couple of world cup campaigns............... and I wonder how many have realistically compared the 'big 5 teams' and realised that in actual fact we either already have or are in the process of reaching the stage where there are only 4 big teams and GB are now starting to fight with Russia, Finland, Germany, Slovenia etc on a different level... and that is no slur on them because even more worryingly in the grand scheme of things they are on the up The most encouraging thing is that we are now starting to finally get some high profile figures within the sport (just in the last few weeks Mark Loram, Meridian Lifts, Simon Stead, Rob Lyon) stating that work and interest in the brits is long overdue. The more this pressure builds the more it is likely that we will get some actual positive and effective actions rather than some very transparently half baked attempts to fool everyone into thinking that a training day is enough ........... training from the right people and financial backing are one side of it but the most important thing that needs changing is that British riders have to become the number one priority again... currently they are last ............... this can only be attained by the promoters making sure that no assessed average is less than 8 without bonus points in the PL at first and then looking to continue that in the EL later on when the inevitable increase of brits come through edit: I understand that a group of sorts has been setup to help the youngsters but as with most things like this little seems to be happening....at least that is being publicised anyway..................... is it not time for the sake of our leagues and general standard that a real force of a group is put together to at least report back to the BSPA with some ideas of how things could progress and the short term knock on effects at least be stomached by the promoters...................... Len Silver Peter Oakes and Neil Machin should automatically represent considering the commitment they have had to British riders over time...... I would also suggest a rider such as Loramski to give a different perspective...... and also a promoter from a Scottish club to bring the perspective of those clubs feeling 'remote' ........................... maybe the issues are more deep rooted than they appear but to find that out some effort has to be made to start with and the right intentions from the BSPA backing it Edited July 10, 2009 by spook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I just dont understand what it is that people dont 'get' about this we dont have a 'Beckham' ..... Nicholls and Rico couldnt be described in any shape or form as 'Beckham' ...... if they were Danish or Polish they would be Kasprzak or Walasek....... in the squad but not a definite...... they certainly arent David Gollob or Tomasz Beckham Rob Lyon is not calling them 'has beens' ..... he is not saying that's it with them he is saying quite correctly that our team has not been of the standard required to win something and to do something about that it means the standard regressing slightly while at the same time the youngsters are brought on more quickly........... keep them in and nothing changes...... make a decision like this and something might change for the better I wonder just how many of those in this thread moaning about/lamenting the decision have also had a moan about the last couple of world cup campaigns............... and I wonder how many have realistically compared the 'big 5 teams' and realised that in actual fact we either already have or are in the process of reaching the stage where there are only 4 big teams and GB are now starting to fight with Russia, Finland, Germany, Slovenia etc on a different level... and that is no slur on them because even more worryingly in the grand scheme of things they are on the up The most encouraging thing is that we are now starting to finally get some high profile figures within the sport (just in the last few weeks Mark Loram, Meridian Lifts, Simon Stead, Rob Lyon) stating that work and interest in the brits is long overdue. The more this pressure builds the more it is likely that we will get some actual positive and effective actions rather than some very transparently half baked attempts to fool everyone into thinking that a training day is enough ........... training from the right people and financial backing are one side of it but the most important thing that needs changing is that British riders have to become the number one priority again... currently they are last ............... this can only be attained by the promoters making sure that no assessed average is less than 8 without bonus points in the PL at first and then looking to continue that in the EL later on when the inevitable increase of brits come through edit: I understand that a group of sorts has been setup to help the youngsters but as with most things like this little seems to be happening....at least that is being publicised anyway..................... is it not time for the sake of our leagues and general standard that a real force of a group is put together to at least report back to the BSPA with some ideas of how things could progress and the short term knock on effects at least be stomached by the promoters...................... Len Silver Peter Oakes and Neil Machin should automatically represent considering the commitment they have had to British riders over time...... I would also suggest a rider such as Loramski to give a different perspective...... and also a promoter from a Scottish club to bring the perspective of those clubs feeling 'remote' ........................... maybe the issues are more deep rooted than they appear but to find that out some effort has to be made to start with and the right intentions from the BSPA backing it Top Post Spook. Well Said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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