salty Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Sounds like another mistake of Jim Lynch proportions then. Why's it a mistake? Worst thing we did 2 years ago was qualify directly to Leszno. Far better to get into the run-off and at least give the guys a chance to have a go on it before the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Spot on. 100% agree. I think he has been swayed by what he has seen over recent years in the PL. I would have had both Nicholls and Richardson IN! I wanted to give Rob Lyon a chance, but he has shot himself, not just in the foot, but the head. I was at Peterborough earlier this season, Olly Allen was the best British Coventry rider, Kennett only got a couple of points. Harris wasn't much better. Oh dear. Well we are in the minority but i agree with you, i would have had Scott and Rico in the team, IMO you pick the best 5 riders at this time not the ones who might be the best in 3 years time, Scott is having a terrible season but put him in a match race against any one of Kennett,Bridger,King and Woffinden and i know who my money would be on to come out on top more times than not. As SS said if we want to blood the kids get some internationals arranged not do it at the world cup where we will struggle to qualify for the race off - i really hope im wrong and will hold my hands up if i am proven to be wrong but i think hes dropped a huge one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I reckon Rico don't want to ride... Just a feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Well..... we all been asking for the youngsters to have a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedUnitedUnited Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Exciting line up IMO could be on fire, or could back fire, might even tempt to give a small cheer for the brits or I could just support the poles again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Ok,so he might have made a mistake or 2 in picking the team,but apparently he is a very nice bloke Let's face it it just shows the state of British(well english,coz we can't rely on the welsh or scots for any riders )speedway at the moment.All those foreigners coming over.I mean look at Newport National League side......full of blooming Aussies in what is supposed to be a British league for our youngsters!!!!!!Asset system and Ashley Holloway are also partly to blame...... good job you dont need to worry about our leagues then Iris .... although i'm sure Hefenbrock and Smolinski have probably done well out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmilou Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Rubbish,(to Gemmilou) riders need to earn their places in the team and just because they are young doesn't mean they should be given a chance. I am all for bringing in the youngsters, but surely you put your best team out for the WTC. Agree, if your best team would challenge for anything then yes you would put that team out, but as has been said, they have had their chance and done nothing, we don't even give the other teams a challenge! If we are ever going to do anything we need to give the youngsters a chance so in the next few years we can try and actually get some results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Face it, we could add Jason Crump to our current squad and we wouldn't be in with a chance this year. Nicholls and Richardson aren't the future of TeamGB. It's not like we are getting rid of the old guard of multiple SWC or SGP winners. Apart from odd flashes, both are pretty much remembered for not so glorious failure. The comes a time when a line needs to be drawn under the previous teams and in IMO Rob Lyon's had the balls to do that. However, if we can blood the youngsters and bring them on, maybe in 3-5 years time we'll have a team in with a chance of actually winning it. The core of our squad for the next few years will be Woffinden, Kennett and Bridger and for them to improve, they need all the experience they can get. As for the previous comments about test matches, I believe Rob is trying to arrange an Under 23/Under 25 test match series in Poland. What would be the point of taking Nicholls, Richardson etc on that. I can't even remember the last time TeamGB rode a test match series away from home Personally I wasn't even going to bother attending even though it's just down the road but now I will. Looking forward to seeing the FUTURE of British Speedway rather than the same old has beens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Yep I reckon Rob's thinking is ............. the future starts now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonsDen Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Can’t be bothered to read all the posts but will give my views. The only difference from my team (picked weeks ago) and RL’s team is that I had Ollie Allen in place of Danny King. Lee Richardson is a great rider but never really had it when push comes to shove. The fact that some people on hear are wallowing in past performances proves how bad we are as a speedway nation. Unless you are winning every World Cup then why stick with a loosing combination – something had to change and thank god someone has had the ba!!s to do it. Scott is having a nightmare this year and put simply, doesn’t deserve his place. Roll on the SWC and a good performance from our team – at least we know they will all be trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) I see the usual suspects are calling Rob Lyon names. At least let the team bomb out first My opinion FWIW the team is just about right. No one in their right mind would have picked Nicholls on his current form, for his own sake as much as Team GBs. Everyone has been howling for youngsters to be given experience and that's what they've done. Realistically Team GB are never going to beat Poland or Australia so our only option is get third place and go to the race off. Let the youngsters ride with the instruction "come in anywhere except last place" and that's job done and through to the race off. Once there, yes I'd put Richardson in at the expense of King. As for Olly Allen, IMO too much of a risk as he is not fully back from injury, not sure I'd pick him anyway tho to be fair. As long as we keep picking the old guard riders when we know we cannot go straight to the final we will never have enough experienced riders to pick and choose from. Edited June 29, 2009 by Star Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 So is Chris Harris the new captain of GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) King a kid? Just two weeks older than Kennett actually, born 1986. Delighted for Danny. Personally I'd have gone for Rico before Bridger. Edited June 29, 2009 by London Witch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipphlopp Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 True, and Nicholls doesn't deserve a berth. But Ricko is having a blinding season. Far better than King. Rico might be having a good season, but against top riders he's a proven bottler , a rider that only tries when it suits him. Scotty aint much better, . No matter who we put out , we arent winning anything , so put out the young guns who just might come to the conclusion that they need more dedication and desire to make it to the top.In the weak elite league as it stands , rico and scotty are nothing more than just half decent riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I would suggest that it may be something to do with Rico's illness. He has suffered badly from very similar illness in the past and it took him a long while to get over it. Personally I'm a Crumpy fan in all situations but I will give the GB lads some support. I hope they don't get too much of a knock to their confidence and take plenty from the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 So the youngsters are in. You would think Scott and Rico are pensionable age. They are 30 at most with a lot of years ahead. Hancock is 39, Gollob roughly the same. Are the Aussies, who have as much chance as us of winning the title as it's raced for in Poland, going to drop GP flop Leigh Adams because of his age just to blood a younger rider ? No, they pick there current strongest side. In a match race Nicholls / Rico against King, Kennett, Woofy or Bridger I know who I would fancy given a fair palying field with gates. Would any of those 4 have beaten Andreas Jonnson as Scotty did on Saturday. My view is no, cos they aren't yet good enough. Performancies in the leagues prove that. Respect to Rob Lyon for having the guts to select this controversial team (and drop his captain) but it's highly likely we will be thrashed and embarrassed at Peterborough, a track which will suit the Poles. If we win 4 heats it will be a victory. God help us in Poland if we actually make the race off. All this is written in the hope Rob Lyon is right and I'm proved wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 well ive seen it all now,pick a rider in King who is having a superb season in place of lee richardson who is having one of his best seasons for a long while.The mind boggles what is goING on in the speedway world of GB!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Rico might be having a good season, but against top riders he's a proven bottler , Yea of course he is thats why he was a world under 21 champion thats why he scored a world cup max thats why he been out top scorer in world cups that why he's been our top scorer in world cup finals thats why he's been place twice in gp's . No doubt sweden and poland where he is yet again our top rider and he does well contain no top riders .? I Never seen a post like yours that is so far wide of the mark total rubbish . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipphlopp Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Yea of course he is thats why he was a world under 21 champion thats why he scored a world cup max thats why he been out top scorer in world cups that why he's been our top scorer in world cup finals thats why he's been place twice in gp's . No doubt sweden and poland where he is yet again our top rider and he does well contain no top riders .? I Never seen a post like yours that is so far wide of the mark total rubbish . With respect Orion , i have seen it , and many others have , when rico is in a battle, he backs down , and gives his place up , fact. He may ride well at times, but not not consistent enough against the top boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IW08 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Perhaps people should actually give King a fair crack before knocking him, esp you all of people SS. It's that sort of typical atttitude that people like you display that give an aura that you want him (King) to fail so you can gloat. Fact of the matter is, you've not seen Danny ride week in, week out this season where as I've been to most home meetings at Ipswich this season and Danny has been outstanding, our most consistent rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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