wolfy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Emil went after Scott because Scott had pushed him. Emil was talking to Scott first off. Scott made it physical Emil reacted. Why did Emil gesture to Scott from a distance after the race? What was his gripe? Why did he not go back to the pits and shut up? Scotty did nothing wrong in the race and is then confronted by an angry Emil who had nothing to be angry about. wolfy!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottieboy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I've just registered to add my tuppenceworth on the event. Personally I thought that the racing was great, the track excellent and the whole event brilliant with one exception. Why do the production team insist on playing Engerland songs? The event is the BRITISH Grand Prix in the Capital city of WALES and we get poor quality Come On England chants. Come on guys, that's cheap, nasty, xenophobic and classless. This event deserves a LOT better. I have a wee bit of experience in putting events together and it's really not difficult to come up with a playlist that motivates a crowd, and whilst that nonsense may have stirred up a few skinheads and BNP members it did nothing for the fans from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. And we're British too incidentally..... All of that said, even if kids with air horns do deafen me, knock my specs off with their flags and kick the back of my seat, I'll keep on coming as it's a great event. I find the Welsh to be really friendly and Cardiff to be a very welcoming city. Shame the hotels have to mark the prices up so much though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 as i say Emil clearly felt something wasnt right. He wanted to discuss it. That doesnt make Scott right to get physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedUnitedUnited Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 as i say Emil clearly felt something wasnt right. He wanted to discuss it. That doesnt make Scott right to get physical. scotts well hard though, he can put his weight around... shame he put so much weight in it, he missed emil and fell to the ground, if your gonna start a fight snotty, least win it hey, saying that....why spoil a habbit of a lifetime, amazes me how 40 thousand fans celebrated his 1 heat win, like he has just won the world championship sat there and filled my programme in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 as i say Emil clearly felt something wasnt right. He wanted to discuss it. That doesnt make Scott right to get physical. Right Ok, in front of the noise of 42,000 people, wearing helmets and gesturing like he had been swiped by a lorry he wants to have a civil discussion. Come on chap pull the other one its gots bells on it. Wolfy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Ok so does that means riders should congratulate eachother on track either? as you say alot of noise helmets etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 As mentioned Sayfutdinovs English is patchy at best. Add to this the muffling effect of a helmet over his mouth and Scotts ears. Scott should of had the decency to listen to what was said and if he didnt like it ride away. Not push the rider out of the way. What was Emil meant to do? accept that Scott had shoved him and go back to his pits? The lad wanted to talk about what had happened and any respectful rider would listen. How could Scott hear him? You've already mentioned the muffling effect of the helmets. Add to that the noise of their engines and the crowd and you expect him to hear every word! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Ok so does that means riders should congratulate eachother on track either? as you say alot of noise helmets etc. The gesture of congratulations is a rider putting out a hand. wolfy!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 As mentioned Sayfutdinovs English is patchy at best. Add to this the muffling effect of a helmet over his mouth and Scotts ears. Scott should of had the decency to listen to what was said and if he didnt like it ride away. Not push the rider out of the way. What was Emil meant to do? accept that Scott had shoved him and go back to his pits? The lad wanted to talk about what had happened and any respectful rider would listen. Scott is a disgrace If his english was poor he should have waited a few minutes and talked in the pits without the helmets.Fact is he was angry and wanted to challenge Scott. Pearcey he was hardly going on about it the guy struggles with English so it was going to take him time to get his point across even in a calm enviroment but when the guy you want to discuss it with pushes you ofcourse he would get annoyed. I think you are the one being blinded by your "i love Scotty" Scott had the whole track to ride down into to stop any contact yet he decided to lean into Emil and but him into the gate. Why did Scott turn left before the gate and not right? If you look at the video.Scott tries to ride off and Emil speeds up to catch him.When he is back up with Scott then Scott pushed him away.And Emil rides into him.He goes into Scotts arm and then puts his arm over Scotts, and at that stage i don't think Scott can turn one way or the other with any real control and he is more trying to keep some sort of control on the bike rather than steer anywhere. Why did Emil gesture to Scott from a distance after the race? What was his gripe? Why did he not go back to the pits and shut up? Scotty did nothing wrong in the race and is then confronted by an angry Emil who had nothing to be angry about. wolfy!!!! Exactly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IW08 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 The phrase "if you can't take it, don't give it." seems to apply here. Emil's been quite aggressive in some of his moves in the earlier rounds of this year's world championship so he has to learn to expect that he'll get some back. Its horses for courses and as long as there is no crashing or malicious intent, fine by me. Nicholls was merely defending his position but Emil threw his rattles and let his very poor tempremant get the better of him. As I've said before, for everything people may say about him, Scott is not the guy to go looking for a fist fight with as the replays showed when he recovered and swung a beauty of a right hook that even Mike Tyson would have been proud of , luckily for Emil, he had his helmet on. Emil is a talented rider, but he's making as many 'enemies' as he is 'friends'. Anybody for Round 2 in Latvia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Nobody is asking any of you anti Nicholls people to support or even like the guy. What some of us are asking is that you look at the incident in an objective manner. Pretend both riders are riders you don't know, then look again at the footage. If you still come to the same decision, then fair enough. Just try and look past the anti Nicholls red mist for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Why do the production team insist on playing Engerland songs? The event is the BRITISH Grand Prix in the Capital city of WALES and we get poor quality Come On England chants. Come on guys, that's cheap, nasty, xenophobic and classless. This event deserves a LOT better. I have a wee bit of experience in putting events together and it's really not difficult to come up with a playlist that motivates a crowd, and whilst that nonsense may have stirred up a few skinheads and BNP members it did nothing for the fans from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. And we're British too incidentally..... So you think being patriotic to England is xenophobic? There's a world of difference between the two. And since when have speedway crowds been known for their skinhead/BNP following? Or did you mean BSF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajenkin Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 positive. bit a good racing and a nice track surface. negative. entertainment, sound system, ref. Positive for me were the venue and organisation. Sadly the pre-match entertainment was decidedly average. Previous years' offerings have at least been real performers not saddo tributes. Programme fee - 8 quid???? Racing - I have seen comments that the racing was good, but you can count on one hand the number of passing races. Why wasnt the track watered more regularly? Ok the track held up well but there just wasnt enough grip. I spend a lot of time defending speedway against the "first bend and its over" brigade and this meeting wont help me one jot! Refereeing - I really am at a loss to understand why Bomber and Pedersen were excluded - there was nothing there that I havent seen countless times and it been considered an all four back situation. Pedersen was bang on with his after race comments because it looked very much like he was being victimised. Nikki hardly endears himself to the crowd but every rider deserves to be dealt with fairly and in this instance it seems like the ref saw two identical incidents in completely opposite ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 sajenkin i think the fact the Harris incident was in bend 2 explains why it wasnt all 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien48 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Can't believe 22 pages later you're all still going on about this! The fight was hand bags that's all - you see it every week in football - it was pure theatre and added an extra bit of spice to some already great match-ups. Personally I thought it was hilarious - 2 grown men in helmets and pads trying to have a go at each - the only thing they didn't do was go chest to chest and push Come on you've got more chance of being hurt crossing the street than those had of seriously damaging each other! It was a fantastic day out and the ruck just added something different for everyone to talk about after... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 It was a fantastic day out and the ruck just added something different for everyone to talk about after... And that is what people are doing......... Tell us when to stop then,will you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) NEWSFLASH - Apparently, news has been released that the war in Iraq and Gareth Southgate missing his penalty in 96 was all the fault of Scott Nicholls! Thanks Phil! That'll teach me not to be a smartarse! Edited June 29, 2009 by Pearcey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 NEWSFLASH - Apparently, news has been released that the war in Iraq and Gareth Southgate missing his penalty in 2000 was all the fault of Scott Nicholls! Southgate missed in 1996 Moving on.....I had a great time with my mate and our son's. I did a wonderful job of making my boy cringe whilst waving the Russian flag screaming Emil's name....mind you what a shocker HE had. I saw no evidence of trouble and the fans around me all took the flag waving in good humour. Again a great night out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTM Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Mick for race director! THx Spook but I will leave that to Colin wouldn,t mind being his assistant though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 no I meant Ole's job! ..... I know you probably cant comment but it would make a nice change to have someone in that position who will allow the track staff to do the job that should be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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