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Is there a rider who has riden against 3 Generations of Street - Crump ? I mean Neil Street, Phil Crump and Jason Crump. The only one I can think of is Les Collins, any one else got any ideas.

 

 

Not strictly a direct line familywise. Neil Street grandfather of Jason Crump. Phil Crump married into Street family and is father of Jason - that we all know. Three generations surely in a case like this would be a grandfather, his bloodline son, the grandson. Sorry, this family paralell is not correct IMO but it is interesting to raise the topic.

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I reckon with Les you are spot on. And probably a unique distinction at that.....

What about Mitch Shirra?He was certainly riding at the time Street was still going wasn't he?He started out "under age" i seem to remember and is still going now..... And Egon Müller also springs to mind as a possibility.......

 

Not strictly a direct line familywise. Neil Street grandfather of Jason Crump. Phil Crump married into Street family and is father of Jason - that we all know. Three generations surely in a case like this would be a grandfather, his bloodline son, the grandson. Sorry, this family paralell is not correct IMO but it is interesting to raise the topic.

My thoughts on the subject as well.3 generations would be the Jansson family or the Tomicek family......

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Maybe Alan Grahame ?

 

 

I doubt if Alan Grahame rode against Alec 'Farmer' Grant, Rob then Rob Grant. Alec Grant was last around aas a rider in the very early 1950s. Possibly he did race against the two Robs.

And I would query the three Allotts as well - with Guy very unlikely to have been in action against Alan Grahame (big chance for someone to prove me wrong :unsure: )

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I doubt if Alan Grahame rode against Alec 'Farmer' Grant, Rob then Rob Grant. Alec Grant was last around aas a rider in the very early 1950s. Possibly he did race against the two Robs.

And I would query the three Allotts as well - with Guy very unlikely to have been in action against Alan Grahame (big chance for someone to prove me wrong :unsure: )

I was thinking off racing against Neil Street, Phil Crump and Jason Crump.

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Is there a rider who has riden against 3 Generations of Street - Crump ? I mean Neil Street, Phil Crump and Jason Crump. The only one I can think of is Les Collins, any one else got any ideas.

 

 

Fairly sure that Rickard Hellsen did, and indeed rode with Phil at Swindon for a while

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Fairly sure that Rickard Hellsen did, and indeed rode with Phil at Swindon for a while

 

 

Sadly, not really correct. As explained Neil Street, Phil Crump and Jason Crump ARE NOT three generations. It's impossible for them to be this.

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Jason Crump's father is Phil Crump; his grand-father is Neil Street. Explain how this is NOT three generations!!!! :blink:

 

 

 

Three generations should be direct family line - grandfather, son, grandson. Phil Crump married into the Street family - he is not a direct descendant of Neil Street, Jason Crump's direct line comes via his mother - Phil's wife. :lol:

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Three generations should be direct family line - grandfather, son, grandson. Phil Crump married into the Street family - he is not a direct descendant of Neil Street, Jason Crump's direct line comes via his mother - Phil's wife. :lol:

 

But if you look at it from Jason's perspective, Phil is his father and Street is his grand-father. One doesn't make a distinction between a maternal and a paternal grandparent. Sorry, s-g you ARE wrong this is a bona-fide three generations situation!!! :rolleyes:

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But if you look at it from Jason's perspective, Phil is his father and Street is his grand-father. One doesn't make a distinction between a maternal and a paternal grandparent. Sorry, s-g you ARE wrong this is a bona-fide three generations situation!!! :rolleyes:

 

 

Not so gyneacology-wise or in regard to legal inheritance laws - or Royalty. It's nice to have a new definition on the BSF. Try to make your reasoning stand up in a court of law! :wink:

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Not so gyneacology-wise or in regard to legal inheritance laws - or Royalty. It's nice to have a new definition on the BSF. Try to make your reasoning stand up in a court of law! :wink:

 

 

You are correct. In it's true context to be three generations each must have a blood relationship with the other two, Phil Crump is not related to Neil Street.

 

Take Jason out of the equation and ask would you consider Phil & Neil as 2 generations of the same family

 

Substitute Carol Street for Phil Crump and you have your three generations, not sure she ever raced against anyone though!!!!!!

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