Dekker Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Oh so you can put your point across without resorting to playground style nonsense.It gets you and the other apologists going so its fun with ppl like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 It gets you and the other apologists going so its fun with ppl like you. Didn't hook this fishy. (this time ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Perhaps Nicki sees a little bit of himself in Emil, and realises he will be his major challenger sooner rather than later? I hate to point this out but the only person Emil is a challenger to currently is Jason I know what you are saying though blazeaway and I predicted this to happen before the gp's started......... who was going to play an 'old wolf/young wolf' game with Emil? I suspected Tomasz ....... but no it seems like he like most of the older guys are going to turn the other cheek for the moment........... the only person to go right out of his way to play this pointless game has been Nicki....... but although he does seem very interested in taking it to Emil in particular it seems everyone is fair game to Nicki......... it is a throwback to his on bike attitude in the early 00's going back to Jason...... here we had someone ultra fast, ultra competitive but also fully respectful of the track surface and the potential for disaster that it could cause for his whole season....... the guy was not going to take chances and played things cleverly......benefitting from some luck along the way....... and the true test of this was in the final rerun where after leading for the majority of the race he decided not to try to stop Emil....... that his season was more important than the final compare that with Nicki and there is a large difference in maturity and stress levels Edited June 1, 2009 by spook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I hate to point this out but the only person Emil is a challenger to currently is Jason I know what you are saying though blazeaway and I predicted this to happen before the gp's started......... who was going to play an 'old wolf/young wolf' game with Emil? I suspected Tomasz ....... but no it seems like he like most of the older guys are going to turn the other cheek for the moment........... the only person to go right out of his way to play this pointless game has been Nicki....... but although he does seem very interested in taking it to Emil in particular it seems everyone is fair game to Nicki......... it is a throwback to his on bike attitude in the early 90's going back to Jason...... here we had someone ultra fast, ultra competitive but also fully respectful of the track surface and the potential for disaster that it could cause for his whole season....... the guy was not going to take chances and played things cleverly......benefitting from some luck along the way....... and the true test of this was in the final rerun where after leading for the majority of the race he decided not to try to stop Emil....... that his season was more important than the final compare that with Nicki and there is a large difference in maturity and stress levels Agree regarding Crump a sensible approach, although had roles been reversed I'm sure Jason would have been equally as "desperate" for a win in the final. What I do know is that the series is set up to be an absolute classic, lets just get Copenhagen and Farcediff out of the way and get stuck into the proper racetracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Denmark has produced an excellent racing surface the last couple of years that the riders all seem to enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Denmark has produced an excellent racing surface the last couple of years that the riders all seem to enjoy. Fair point mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) If i may be so bold as to return the thread to the topic's title and subject matter. Guess Nicki has learnt the time honoured lesson that (unlike other riders/people) walls and chairs don't hit back but.....they sure are mighty hard on those digits. At least he was fortunate he never broke his toe launching the chair because it was so light, then again, he's also fortunate it didn't bounce back off the wall and take his eye out. Also, he was fortunate that he didn't blow up his tv as the chair barely missed that. So, just one misfortune then lol. I'm glad when i was a tot i learnt and took on the lesson that all tots receive, namely don't go hurling, punching or kicking things when having a hissy fit. Contented sigh now as i go off to play my guitar with all ten necessary bits intact and operating. Edited June 2, 2009 by manchesterpaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Agree regarding Crump a sensible approach, although had roles been reversed I'm sure Jason would have been equally as "desperate" for a win in the final. What I do know is that the series is set up to be an absolute classic, lets just get Copenhagen and Farcediff out of the way and get stuck into the proper racetracks. well while i agree its not going happen. IMG/BSI makes too much money on these Gps. For IMG money is the only thing that counts. Why else do you think they extended the contract with Gothenburg/Ullevi? The track was awful but they had a bigger crowd then on the temporary tracks and because of this they made more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 well while i agree its not going happen. IMG/BSI makes too much money on these Gps. For IMG money is the only thing that counts. Why else do you think they extended the contract with Gothenburg/Ullevi? The track was awful but they had a bigger crowd then on the temporary tracks and because of this they made more money. Agreed, unfortunately they are a necessary evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Agreed, unfortunately they are a necessary evil. So is Nicki Pedersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 the temporary tracks are the temporary tracks and not only so they bring the stadium atmosphere but they also historically have paid the organisers handsomely........ all good so I dont understand why the other two thirds of the GP fixtures are ruined when the reality is that those tracks should see far better racing............. and I dont understand why we have a block of 3 temporary surfaces at the height of summer when 2 of those stadiums could actually be quite handy in the slightly wet parts of the season............. the latter seems quite odd to me...... the previous there is no excuse for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Hancock didn't then go bleating to the cameras as to how unfair it was blah blah blah. Pedersen didn't have to give an interview and show himself up in the process. So Pedersens luck has finally run out - HURRAH - he's had more than his fair share over the past couple of seasons. I hope psychologically this has effected Pedersen, there's nothing more entertaining than watching the danish gnome making a prat out of himself. Glad we could have a sensible debate. But the ref wasn't wrong....just because the Nicki fan club want it to be so doesn't mean it is! The decsion was correct (IMHO of course) and Nicki just proved what a complete pillock he is by throwing a strop and breaking his finger! Just because the Nicki hate club want it to be so doesn't mean it is! tbf the camera had been on Nicki for a long period ... in fact as soon as he had got off the track and before he had found out what the decision was...... we had cut back to other footage a couple of times and cut back to him....... and then finally they showed us recorded footage of Nicki kicking the towelling roll Greg's tantrum happened as soon as he got back to his pit if one of them wants to be a showman off the track and is happy to ham up his anger for the camera while the other is embarrased enough to want to hide it from the camera ..... realistically what do you think the reaction is going to be when the fans find out that the hammy wrestler type managed to break a finger with his tantrum? Carry on then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Carry on then... oh i'm sorry I wasnt aware that the priority was you having the last word lmao (wth?!) please remind me next time when i'm not allowed to respond to what you post thats very odd behaviour 21st CH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Not at all. I think you've just misunderstood my apathy. I just think it's being used by some to have a pop at Nicki. He sees it as his chance at the world title being ruined by a poor decision and he let his feelings known. I don't think any other rider doing similar would have got the same response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Not at all. I think you've just misunderstood my apathy. I just think it's being used by some to have a pop at Nicki. He sees it as his chance at the world title being ruined by a poor decision and he let his feelings known. I don't think any other rider doing similar would have got the same response. tbh thats not a subject im all that interested in ........ I know what I saw and I know what I have seen since he came into the GP's......and likewise with Greg.... likewise with Ole...... refs ...... etc etc.............. I should imagine it is the same for others now if your own personal agenda of trying to lump Greg in results in a weak argument then expect people to bring you up on it........ if then you dont feel like putting your point across and instead you want to try to silence me over a topic that you started then expect me to have a bit of a laugh at that............. where are you going with this now? Are you appealing to me that Nicki is hard done by? He was excluded correctly imo He has been a liability on track in his earlier career and unlike others who have done this and mellowed...... he has decided to go back to it He is great entertainment to watch in the pits and on the phone to the ref........ tbh im not sure he realises just how entertaining some of the things he says actually are (but not in a way he would like to be known for).......... but ultimately this 'entertainment' comes at a price because he is now the very image of the little boy who cried wolf While he was busy having his tantrum he decided to put his season in even more jeopardy than he already just had with his old wolf/young wolf on track agenda and ended up breaking his finger! now seriously i'll ask you again .....how on earth did you think people would react to this news ....... especially after his whimpering about taking a holiday? It is one thing liking him but fully in the knowledge of what he actually is...... and it is something entirely different to being a fan of the guy to the extent where you cant see a word printed about him which may actually highlight one of his inadequacies.... and that isnt apathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I've got no problem with you or your opinion of Nicki as a rider. We all have riders we like, dislike or are indifferent to. It was just when you called him a 'hammy wrestler type' I thought I should just bow out as I didn't want to get into a daft argument. That's why I said "carry on". My use of the word "apathy" was in relation to speedway in general because I wasn't particularly happy with the way the sport was going even before all the latest crap blew up. That's all. There's nothing more to it than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 ah the 'hammy wrestler type' .......daft argument? no not at all....... actually I havent seen this discussed much on this forum but yes I truly believe that he does ham it up for the cameras and the media............. the guy has no issue with the camera on him and has a catalogue of incidents where he has exploded when the camera has already been on him for some time following an incident or the decision of that incident......... I believe the relevant saying is 'any publicity is good publicity' His stories on the SGP site are usually dripping in one controversial comment or another..... how great he is or how hard done by he is .............. and then in the true unbelievable style of wrestling we had the Nicki and Ole sparring story last season and they both contributed to the pure theatre It is actually something that I like in the guy and something that the sport is sadly bereft of............. im one of those guys who feels almost naseous when I flick through the sports channels only to see a heaving stadium crowd being entertained by a wrestling act which is so fake it isnt even close to looking like the real thing.................. this is theatre pretending to be sport and yet it has a huge amount of fans while it doesnt appeal to me for speedway to become the latest victim of the americanisation of this country I would most certainly tolerate it (and secretly enjoy some of it!) if riders adopted hammed up 'characters' and the fans and money started rolling in however, and this is the point I was making (I think) ............. he (or his fans) cannot have it both ways....... if someone comes out with the stuff he does at such a sustained level then when they have made a prized pratt of themselves people are obviously going to point and laugh......... isnt that human nature and all part of the grand theatre that he buys into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 have we an update on his injury does he ride in copenhagen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 have we an update on his injury does he ride in copenhagen Of course he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Fair comments spook. For the record I don't have really strong feelings for Nicki one way or the other. I'd rather he won it than Crump because I don't much like him as a rider but that's all. I'd be more than happy to the 'Grin' stuff the pair of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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