dublin duke Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Originally from Halifax - regular Dukes attender late 60's early 70's (with my Dad). Then moved away and lost touch. Re-born speedway fanatic following visit to ELRC in Bradford 1996. I am aware of Kenny Carter through fleeting mentions in articles etc. but don't know much about him. Without wishing to be insensitive or macabre, I would be grateful if someone could give an overview of KC's life and career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxford duke Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 http://www.tibspeedway.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tibsweb/ http://www.tibspeedway.pwp.blueyonder.co.u...sweb/kennyc.htm This is a site which has a load of bradford speedway history with some kenny carter information from his early career with more to go on the site soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 There hasn't been much response to this, Dublin Duke, probably because there was a big Kenny Carter discussion on the old forum fairly recently. I understand the old forum is to be archived as read-only so you should be able to read that in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 There were a few unsavoury comments about Kenny as well as some very positive ones... mostly positive thankfully. If he had been alive he would have been included in the World Champions Nostalgia Night on merit I am sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackofdiamonds Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Kenny's first meeting for Newcastle was when Chris Prime died. However great he became I think this always played on his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Kenny was a great rider whose life was cut short through personal problems. He was outspoken and not afraid to make enemies but he was proud to be English and always rode his heart out. He was a rider you either loved or hated, nothing in between and his death was a great loss to Speedway. He would have surely been World Champ in different circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howling gorgon Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 On the old forum thread re this subject there was one comment which was, however true, very badly put. The fact remains whatever else he did as a rider he did something which was & is unforgiveable. whilst people post on here eulogising what a great rider he was, nobody should forget what he did, my personal opinion on thts topic is it should not even be running, the less said about ikenny carter & his actions the better. To decribe his life being cut short "through personal problems" as it is above is pretty crass to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 On the old forum thread re this subject there was one comment which was, however true, very badly put.The fact remains whatever else he did as a rider he did something which was & is unforgiveable. whilst people post on here eulogising what a great rider he was, nobody should forget what he did, my personal opinion on thts topic is it should not even be running, the less said about ikenny carter & his actions the better. To decribe his life being cut short "through personal problems" as it is above is pretty crass to say the least. I have not forgotten what he did and certainly do not condone it but I was trying to put it nicely. Noone will know for certain what drove him to do it and what effect it has had on his children and his wife's family and friends and it is certainly not for me to say but obviously he must have had 'problems' to resort to these tragic actions. I was not intending to be crass or offend anyone but he must have been a very desperate man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Here we go again. :roll: Just like years ago, Kenny Carter always provokes a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Maybe it's time to lock this topic now before it all hits the fan like it did the last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howling gorgon Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 ML..... could'nt agree more, the less said about this the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 It does seem to be very difficult in some cases to remember its a speedway list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Having stopped watching in 1971, I seem to have missed out here and thankfully, judging by some of the posts! :? I think i'll aviod this thread! :-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 As Falcace says, Kenny Carter always provokes a reaction, and that being the case I don't see why people should avoid discussions about him. Sure, it's a speedway board, but, whatever he did, Kenny Carter was a speedway rider and his life and death had a big impact on anyone who was around at the time. In all my time as a speedway supporter I can think of only 3 occasions when the sport has made the front page of the national newspapers. One was Peter Collins winning the World Championship, another was a bizarre race fixing 'scandal' reported in the Sunday People (eg, did you know the Bruce Penhall only won the 1981 World Championship because Jiri Stancl let him beat him in his final race?). The third time was the Kenny Carter incident. It was a big story and I see no reason to avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 At the end of the day this is a 'SPEEDWAY FORUM' so why not just talk about KC's speedway career and not his private life which should be left alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 I concur Jez, although this horse has been beat to death, no matter how things turned out, horrible as it was, this is about Kenny the Racer. No excuse at all for the terrible thing he did, but he was a determined racer who put his whole being at the time into his racing. He was a hard little man with true grit. He was a tough a speedway racer who ever came down the pike. No one can forget the terrible things that happened, and no forgiveness expected, but man what a racers heart. Sandman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissie Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Can the jury retire on this one please. I didnt know kenny but I DO know his kids and they do not need to be reminded of what their father did. since this thread is in the speedway section and not in the general discussions can we try and stick to speedway please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted March 20, 2003 Report Share Posted March 20, 2003 Krissie, We are talking about Speedway, that is the point.... Sandman :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howling gorgon Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 jblanch69 - what utter rubbish, none of us are free from guilt, - correct. do we all resort to killing if things don't go our way, not in the real world I inhabit! Whatever this man achieved in his racing career, (what, exactly is debatable), the one thing he will & should be remembered for is what he did to his wife. If he had not then took his own life, what would peoples opinion of him be today? Its about time people stopped eulogising this man as some sort of speedway demi god & saw him for what he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoddy Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 How many times does it need to be said??? Talk about the speedway. I'm sure you know nothing about what actually happened so why voice an opinion on it? Kenny was a great rider - what happened was terrible but is none of my business or for me to judge so I keep my mouth shut. Some of you should perhaps try it sometime. MODERATOR: I think we'll end this discussion out of respect for the Carter family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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