Sandie Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Track dreadful Adams awful Nicki's exclusion appalling Emil sensational My head this morning woolly nothing unusual there then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) just got back. bloody great week, nice weather and a good gp. track far better than i expected and some good racing. roll on next year i say. Being the main sponsor maybe you could shed some light on the rumour all GP tracks are super slick so the sponsors adverts can be clearly be seen etc, have you heard anything? congrats again for your continued support of speedway. Edited May 31, 2009 by speedy den boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 the exclusion was awful, nikki p robbed, feel sorry for the man crump was lucky as he was beaten in both semi and final but got a second bite in re runs well done hans for checking on walsceck when he t boned him. great sportsmanship adams is gone as a rider on anything bar a smooth track as he is now safety first scott having a nightmare, feel real sorry for ther guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Would Emil really dive when he knew there was the possibility of being hit by Jason (and his bike) at 60mph?? no absolutely not...... not on what must be one of the fastest tracks in the world right at the end of one of the straights...... we know the guy has a bit of a wild streak but no one is that nuts! Also the question has to be asked..... what would his motive be? Does he look intimidated by NickiP? Did he look like he wouldnt just take Nicki on the next bend again? (edited) Cant believe what im reading on here . and is disgusting ... As for nicki v emil No matter what people think of nicki he was in front and had the line yes he tryed to take emil wide but if he in front then whats the problem .. but the inocent party in all this was crump who came off worse. As for scott i feel so sorry for him he having a really rough time and i hope he doesnt quit the GP's he just needs a plan and as a team say i love it when a plan comes together COME ON SCOTTY the only thing i will say is how are some of you any different to nicki when your swearing like troopers on here when it isnt needed . Actually ... and this is the point..... Nicki P went from behind him to almost past him in a second or less....... but he didnt do it cleanly.... Emil didnt change direction..... and Nicki clearly decided to ride the man and shove Emil out (not for the first time this season) rather than make sure he went into the bend cleanly I would suggest the majority of refs would feel in a difficult position to have to rule on it but would concentrate on the passing move the directions entering the bend and and ultimately who collected who Dekker has found an interesting way of putting his point across but he is right about 1 thing at least........the key thing here is that Nicki has decided to ride the man rather than the track again this season and it is because he can no longer rely on his super fast machinery of the previous 2 years Edited June 1, 2009 by spook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Also the question has to be asked..... what would his motive be? Does he look intimidated by NickiP? Did he look like he wouldnt just take Nicki on the next bend again? Was he not already in a qualifying position? A qualifying position for what? It was the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 A qualifying position for what? It was the final. quite true we arent really saying that he didnt have ultimate confidence that he could take him straight away again are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 A qualifying position for what? It was the final. What is the the problem here? Nicki passes Emil and as he starts to turn towards turn 1 his dirt deflector takes out Emil's front wheel. What else there is to do but exclude Nicki! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twincamweslake Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Problem for Nicki too is he doesn't seem to bend his right leg at the knee, so doesn't move his body weight as well on the bike, this also if you look tends to see him 'skate' across the corners especially if he goes in fast. You can see as well other riders know this and turn back under him when he does this. Last year too his bikes were moving forward on tracks where other riders were spinning up, this year the opposite appears to be happening. Regards to all Alan. At last someone else can see what I have been saying for years, the reason he rears and centre punches so many riders in the corners is because he rides with a straight right leg. This makes it difficult to shift body weight to steer the bike correctly. Have a look at some older photos of previous top class and world class riders, all have bent right knee, that enables you to push down on the footpeg and give you leverage to shift weight back and forth on the bike and turn it quickly. Nicki is very fast, but sorry thats all I can say about him, as far as a good speedway rider, nah, think back to some of the greats, PC, Ivan, Ole, Phil Crump, Ove Fundin, Michael Lee, Dave Jessup, Bruce Penhall, Erik Gundersen, Hans and many many others, how often did you see them come off their bikes, it was a rareity. This bloke is off nearly every GP at some stage or another, either himself or causing a fall from being out of control. For those on here old enough to have seen some of those names as mentioned above you will know what I mean. For just pure control and smoothness, I have to say Ivan and Ole were poetry in motion. He may have won 3 titles, but to mention Nicki in the same context as probably all the names above as far as being a speedway rider in the total sense, is insulting to say the least. Edited June 1, 2009 by twincamweslake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 What is the the problem here? Nicki passes Emil and as he starts to turn towards turn 1 his dirt deflector takes out Emil's front wheel. What else there is to do but exclude Nicki! Nicki was going in a straight line and Emil turned into Nicki's back wheel. A tough descision for the ref IMO, and an incident where no single rider was at fault. But if push came to shove and I had to exclude someone, I would have excluded Crump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nicki was going in a straight line and Emil turned into Nicki's back wheel. A tough descision for the ref IMO, and an incident where no single rider was at fault. But if push came to shove and I had to exclude someone, I would have excluded Crump. I'm looking forward to catching up with you shortly, Blazeaway, you Pommy B. PS If Nicki was going in a straight line he would have gone straight into the airfence. I reckon Emil should be praised for taking out Nicki's back wheel thus saving him from further injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I'm looking forward to catching up with you shortly, Blazeaway, you Pommy B. PS If Nicki was going in a straight line he would have gone straight into the airfence. I reckon Emil should be praised for taking out Nicki's back wheel thus saving him from further injury. Not doing Cardiff now mate, you'll have to let me know your tour details so we can meet up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Not doing Cardiff now mate, you'll have to let me know your tour details so we can meet up. Almost everything is finalised, all will be revealed short & fatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Almost everything is finalised, all will be revealed short & fatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy M Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 It was absolutley heartbreaking to see Scott crouching in the corner with his head in his hands. Let's hope a few more meetings for Coventry will help and that his next GP will be a better one. Scott is a far better rider than he has shown in the GP's so far and once he gets his head sorted, the real Scott Nicholls will reappear. Must agree with you there,it was heartbreaking to see him,it brought a lump to my throat.he rode so well at coventry on bank holiday monday.and was hoping that his confidence for the gps was back,he is such a fantastic rider,and i hope he sorts out whatever problems hes got.bless him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Actually ... and this is the point..... Nicki P went from behind him to almost past him in a second or less....... but he didnt do it cleanly.... Emil didnt change direction..... and Nicki clearly decided to ride the man and shove Emil out (not for the first time this season) rather than make sure he went into the bend cleanly Spot on ! Edited June 1, 2009 by zonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I would liked to have seen it!! Bloody Sky put and advert on right across the screen so we couldnt see anything!!! CRAP!!! What do you mean? We recorded it on Sky and it was fine...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nicki was going in a straight line and Emil turned into Nicki's back wheel. A tough descision for the ref IMO, and an incident where no single rider was at fault. But if push came to shove and I had to exclude someone, I would have excluded Crump. http://svtplay.se/v/1576932/finalen_fick_brytas_efter_krasch In my eyes Nicki was on his line going from the inside to the outside and as he started to turn he took the russian out. There's the SVT footage of it. Wait for it until it shows it from the camera on the up instead of front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 http://svtplay.se/v/1576932/finalen_fick_brytas_efter_krasch In my eyes Nicki was on his line going from the inside to the outside and as he started to turn he took the russian out. There's the SVT footage of it. Wait for it until it shows it from the camera on the up instead of front. Watched it again and still think Crump should have been excluded. Nicki's line did not change the Ruski was looking for him all along the straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nicki's line did not change the Ruski was looking for him all along the straight. I think I'd be looking if I had Nicki Pedersen powering up inside me going into the bend and probably thinking, bloody hell what do I do now, where do I turn, the fence is looming up arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ................ wouldn't you Blazeaway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I think I'd be looking if I had Nicki Pedersen powering up inside me going into the bend and probably thinking, bloody hell what do I do now, where do I turn, the fence is looming up arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ................ wouldn't you Blazeaway? the answer is simple. release the throttle a bit let Nicki pass and then try to go on Nickis inside. NO ONE forced Emil to stay on Nickis outside. Emil should have backed off earlier and realized that Nicki had passed him. I think referee decisions like this might take away riders intrest in trying to make a pass since if there is contact they will get excluded. Sure Nicki was only 95% ahead of Emi but the last 20-30 centimeters should not matter. A rider should realize that he is passed and should act accordingly to that. It would be different if they both were side by side but that was not he case here. Nicki was first into the corner and should be allowed to choose which line he want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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