Snyper1010 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I dont think the ref has been announced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 MEETING FORMAT 10 teams will compete in 2 groups. Each team will ride against every other team in their group (4 rides each) with the top 2 teams in each group progressing to the sudden death semi-finals. Winners of each semi-final will then race in a winner-takes-all Grand Final. Semi-final losers will race-off for third place. Scoring system: 4-3-2-0 Come again?! I may just not be reading this right but can anyone make sense from this. What is a sudden death semi? and a winner takes all final? Does this mean that the team who takes a heat advantage go through or the team of the rider who wins the heat? Also why change the point system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes1966 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 MEETING FORMAT 10 teams will compete in 2 groups. Each team will ride against every other team in their group (4 rides each) with the top 2 teams in each group progressing to the sudden death semi-finals. Winners of each semi-final will then race in a winner-takes-all Grand Final. Semi-final losers will race-off for third place. Scoring system: 4-3-2-0 Come again?! I may just not be reading this right but can anyone make sense from this. What is a sudden death semi? and a winner takes all final? Does this mean that the team who takes a heat advantage go through or the team of the rider who wins the heat? Also why change the point system. I think these rules are same as before - can anyone else confirm? It is pair with heat advantage that goes through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyHart Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 MEETING FORMAT 10 teams will compete in 2 groups. Each team will ride against every other team in their group (4 rides each) with the top 2 teams in each group progressing to the sudden death semi-finals. Winners of each semi-final will then race in a winner-takes-all Grand Final. Semi-final losers will race-off for third place. Scoring system: 4-3-2-0 Come again?! I may just not be reading this right but can anyone make sense from this. What is a sudden death semi? and a winner takes all final? Does this mean that the team who takes a heat advantage go through or the team of the rider who wins the heat? Also why change the point system. The team who gets the most points wins the heat ( ). So if a team gets second and third they will win that heat. I'd have said the above explains what a sudden death semi and winner takes all final is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Same as its always been. The scoring system is there to reward team riding Snyper, and to ensure no level scoring hetas (ie no 3-3's). 'Sudden death' and 'winner takes all' merely highlight that fact. Would expect the Lynn pairing to be Captain Fantastic and the Boy Wonder Edited June 4, 2009 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Yea i have been away made coffee and done a few things and my mind is now working and its all clear lol sorry for sounding stupid. edit it was the simple mistake of having the regular 3-2-1-0 heat scores imprinted on my mind. Edited June 4, 2009 by Snyper1010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Same as its always been. The scoring system is there to reward team riding Snyper, and to ensure no level scoring hetas (ie no 3-3's). 'Sudden death' and 'winner takes all' merely highlight that fact. Exactly Bagpuss, not that hard to understand surely Snyper Although tarnished by an extremely bad refereeing decision, some of the racing last time was as good as i've seen in over 30 years of speedway watching. I'll be back hoping for more of the same this year, also taking in Bournemouth v IOW on the Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 My guesses at the pairings GROUP 1 Kings Lynn - Ward & Topinka Somerset - Johno & Kramer Berwick - Makovsky & Franc (we already know) Rye House - Mear if fit??, with either Sundstrom or Neath as his partner Scunthorpe - Howe & Karlsson GROUP 2 Glasgow - Parker & Grieves Workington - Rymel & Doolan Redcar - Proctor & Stoney/Havelock Edinburgh Fisher & Wethers Birmingham Piszcz & Lyons The 4 likely semi-finalists IMO, but group 2 will be tight If there the likely riders on show i would def say that Group 2 is strong, but with the winners coming from group 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 nah not difficult Phil just kept thinking 3-3 when i thought of a finish as Team A,B,B,A or B,A,A,B As i say just a silly mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 GROUP 2 Glasgow - Parker & Grieves Workington - Rymel & Doolan Redcar - Proctor & Stoney/Havelock Edinburgh Fisher & Wethers Birmingham Piszcz & Lyons Can't see that happening, especially after last night. Its a well known fact that Grieves is awful at Somerset and he hates riding at the place hence why he pulled out last year for Redcar and Proctor rode in his place. Edinburgh's Ryan Fisher and Matthew Wethers were awesome last night and would take some beating on last nights showing. Not sure what the averages allow as Wethers is fairly low down in the pecking order I think, but for at Somerset that is the correct pair to chose assuming they are allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Helsing Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Can't see that happening, especially after last night. Its a well known fact that Grieves is awful at Somerset and he hates riding at the place hence why he pulled out last year for Redcar and Proctor rode in his place. Edinburgh's Ryan Fisher and Matthew Wethers were awesome last night and would take some beating on last nights showing. Not sure what the averages allow as Wethers is fairly low down in the pecking order I think, but for at Somerset that is the correct pair to chose assuming they are allowed. He will just have to ride now! as our only hope is now out for 6 weeks with a broken ankle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogetter Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 how do teams qualify for the pairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 how do teams qualify for the pairs By knowing the secret handshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 GoGetter there is a thread in the Individual section. The teams have already been seleceted. As im aware its the team with the best heat 15 results throughtout the PT qualifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drac Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Well there is nothing wrong with having it as a thread on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 GoGetter there is a thread in the Individual section. The teams have already been seleceted. As im aware its the team with the best heat 15 results throughtout the PT qualifiers. I originally thought that,but Birmingham managed 2 heat advantages in heat 15...surely this isn't a good way of deciding it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crikeythatsfast Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Indeed there isn't, after all it's the PL pairs and this is the PL section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Well the PL Pairs thread i started was moved by a mod to the invidual section and merged with an existing Pairs thread so im guessing that will happen with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 GoGetter there is a thread in the Individual section. The teams have already been seleceted. As im aware its the team with the best heat 15 results throughtout the PT qualifiers. So we have team events in the idividual section???? Are the BSPA running this forum now? I thought qualification was based on how many mates each promoter has on the managemsnt committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Testimonials individual and shared events i believe the section is called. As its a Super7 event i guess thats where the shared bit comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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