norbold Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Okay, is there anyone out there who can solve this puzzle? Steve Just heard from the man himself: Hello Norman, I am E mailing you as a response whether I rode for Rye House in 1986. The honest answer is I do not really remember. I do know, however that I spent 86 racing speedway in Southern California and do remember late in the same year having a couple of second half rides at both Hoddesden and Arena Essex. But official outings for either side is doubtful. Sorry I can not be more specific. I am only surprised that there is any interest in this particular subject. Best wishes to you, Christopher Chaplin. Edited May 14, 2009 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Thanks for the info on Dick Fisher. I checked the details on the Speedway Researcher website and found that he did indeed ride for Fleetwood in '51 - one meeting against Ashfield in August as reserve (2 rides nil points) ! I don't suppose you think about such things when you're young and starting out but to 'ruin' a one track career for one meeting ...... well !! Mention of Per Jonsson got me round to thinking on Bernie Leigh of Reading. Now I know he rode for Swindon in '74 as well as Reading for the rest of his career (don't forget that he only rode for the Robins because of Readings one season failure to reopen after the stadium move) but I wondered who would have been a one track rider had not his principle track closed ? In addition to Bernie the other one I can think of would be Fundin (am I allowed to mention this on this thread, sorry new to this game, ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapesuptv Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 A bit of a modern example here, but it is more than 5 years: I would like to propose Fredrik Lindgren (Wolverhampton) if he hasn't already been proposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I dont think big Barney Kennett rode for anyone else but Canterbury. Thats assuming doubling up in the BL doesnt count. I dont even think he got a Testimonial did he? Over 25 matches for Hackney - including most of one season as effectively a full-time Hawk.. This this rules him out!!! Don't think there were such things as Testimonials in his day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Sorry, but to me irrespective of the title of the thread Peter Craven, Ron Johnston, Dick Fisher and even Peter Collins would have had a testimonial if they had them in those days, for as in this case all with Belle Vue. I mean, a rider has to start somewhere to learn his trade which would usually be in a lower league if he was going all the way to the top surely? Edited May 14, 2009 by Jim Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Sorry, but to me irrespective of the title of the thread Peter Craven, Ron Johnston, Dick Fisher and even Peter Collins would have had a testimonial if they had them in those days, for as in this case all with Belle Vue. No-one's questioning the right of a rider to merit a testimonial, and neither are we trying to discover who spent 15 years with one club; unfortunately the title of the thread here IS everything. We are just trying to discover those few individuals who spent their entire career (or British career, at least) with just one club. I mean, a rider has to start somewhere to learn his trade which would usually be in a lower league if he was going all the way to the top surely? Everyone has to start somewhere, but again, we are not necessarily discussing riders who were "going all the way to the top". There have been some who started out in the lower leagues, and never progressed beyond that, and there are those (like Kelvin Tatum, Andy Smith, and many foreigners) who started out in the top tier. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) No-one's questioning the right of a rider to merit a testimonial, and neither are we trying to discover who spent 15 years with one club; unfortunately the title of the thread here IS everything. We are just trying to discover those few individuals who spent their entire career (or British career, at least) with just one club. Everyone has to start somewhere, but again, we are not necessarily discussing riders who were "going all the way to the top". There have been some who started out in the lower leagues, and never progressed beyond that, and there are those (like Kelvin Tatum, Andy Smith, and many foreigners) who started out in the top tier. Steve Fair enough Steve. I guess I may have got the wrong end of the stick, so I apologise if that is the case to the thread starter and posters. It might help a little though if the originator of the thread could spell, and make it clear what it was about though, if your going to be so pedantic about it all. Edited May 14, 2009 by Jim Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 It might help a little though if the originator of the thread could spell, and make it clear what it was about though, if your going to be so pedantic about it all. Firstly, I don't think that it's pedantic to explore this topic properly; it is a genuine, and very interesting question. However, I think that it is a little pedantic to criticise Bob for an obvious typo (we all knew what it meant), particularly when you post a statement such as, "if your going to be so pedantic about it all". With your knowledge, Jim, I'm sure that you can really be of assistance on a thread like this, so it would be nice if we could all concentrate on the subject in hand. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervjankefanclub Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Sorry, but to me irrespective of the title of the thread Peter Craven, Ron Johnston, Dick Fisher and even Peter Collins would have had a testimonial if they had them in those days, for as in this case all with Belle Vue. I mean, a rider has to start somewhere to learn his trade which would usually be in a lower league if he was going all the way to the top surely? Peter Collins did recieve a testimonial, Jim. In 1980 if I remember right. I used to collect programmes when I was a youngster and that was one I had, he also had a farewell meeting at the start of the 1987 season. Quite a few testimonials were granted in the 70s and early 80s, others that spring to mind are; The Boocock brothers, Mike Keen, Terry Betts, Bob Kilby, Bernie Leigh, Gordon Kennett, Chris Morton, Jim Beaton, Trevor Geer, Brian Clark, Hugh Saunders, Laurie Etheridge, Alan Sage, David Gagen, Rob Hollingworth, Rob Henry and a few others. Thats why I was surprised Brian Kennett was never granted one. Dr Carlo Biagi even had one at Powderhall in 1981. Edited May 14, 2009 by mervjankefanclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) No-one's questioning the right of a rider to merit a testimonial, and neither are we trying to discover who spent 15 years with one club; unfortunately the title of the thread here IS everything. We are just trying to discover those few individuals who spent their entire career (or British career, at least) with just one club. Steve Where in the title does it mention "British career"?.....for me this is a speedway forum and it is just as interesting to hear that Tommy Jansson spent his entire career at Smederna or some guy spent his entire career at a Polish or Danish club as it is a British club,,,,, Martin Smolinski for instance has only ridden for Olching in the Bundesliga i think..... But you're just sour because Matten Kröger has ridden 25 years for his one and only club ......not that he didn't get offers to ride for other clubs.He told me he did.....but after turning them down for a few years no-one then bothered to ask him after a while..... Edited May 14, 2009 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Where in the title does it mention "British career"?.....for me this is a speedway forum and it is just as interesting to hear that Tommy Jansson spent his entire career at Smederna or some guy spent his entire career at a Polish or Danish club as it is a British club,,,,, I agree, but most on here have a much greater knowledge of - and interest in - what has gone on in the UK over the years. Plus, we have greater access to "official" records, not that they are always 100% accurate... Martin Smolinski for instance has only ridden for Olching in the Bundesliga i think..... That's great, and I'm sure there are riders in Russia, Finland, Hungary, the old East Germany, and even the US that can claim to be "one-track" riders. However, the constant tweaking of leagues in the UK has, no doubt, had a massive impact on where riders end up; moreso than in most countries. Steve Edited May 14, 2009 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanr1 Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Rick Miller? I think he only rode for the Bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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