chunky Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Not according to Norbold's excellent..... "70 Years of Rye House Speedway" I've been a regular at Rye House since 1985..... I don't remember Chris Chaplin riding for us in 1986, at least not in any home meetings. Okay, is there anyone out there who can solve this puzzle? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Glasgow and Exeter at home, last two League Meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Glasgow and Exeter at home, last two League Meetings. Ta muchly... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) According to "The Complete History of the British League", he also appeared twice in 1986. Steve Not according to Norbold's excellent..... "70 Years of Rye House Speedway" I've been a regular at Rye House since 1985..... I don't remember Chris Chaplin riding for us in 1986, at least not in any home meetings. Thank you for the plug, Shadders. When you say not according to my book, do you mean my book doesn't mention him appearing twice in 1986? Because if he only appeared twice it's quite likely I wouldn't have mentioned him. It doesn't mean he didn't ride twice for the Rockets in 1986. My criterion for inclusion in the end of year averages was 6 matches. Edited May 13, 2009 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 How about Dick Fisher (Belle Vue 53-66) ? Also, Ron Johnston also of Belle Vue over the same time period. Apologies for suggesting Hans Wasserman, didn't release that 5 years was the watershed mark. Not my era but I think Per Jonsson only rode for Reading in Britain and hasn't been mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Dixon Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Not my era but I think Per Jonsson only rode for Reading in Britain and hasn't been mentioned. Yip, 1984-1993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) How about Dick Fisher (Belle Vue 53-66) ? Also, Ron Johnston also of Belle Vue over the same time period. For some reason, I have this niggling doubt about Ron Johnston; I just seem to recall him riding for someone else. Apologies for suggesting Hans Wasserman, didn't release that 5 years was the watershed mark. No problem. It's not so much that, but you do you realis how many riders would be eligible if we included all time-spans? Riders like Josef Kafel, Jan Puk, Wieslaw Patynek, Alf Jonsson, Leif Soderberg, Keith Chrisco, Rauli Makinen, Stefan Kwoczala, Walter Grubmuller, Buddy Robinson, Antti Pajari, and even the much-maligned Timmy Joe Shepherd! Not my era but I think Per Jonsson only rode for Reading in Britain and hasn't been mentioned. Good call. Steve Edited May 13, 2009 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star ghost Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I had already thought of Hans, but it was for less than two full seasons. As we said, there will be a bunch of riders whose British career spanned no more than two years, who would qualify. After all, while you're at it, you could include Tony Briggs, Denny Pyeatt, and Pierre Brannefors. That also opens the door for Brad Oxley, Mats Olsson, Jan Henningsen etc... Steve Pierre Brannefors was with Kings Lynn before he was in the Reading team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thank you for the plug, Shadders. When you say not according to my book, do you mean my book doesn't mention him appearing twice in 1986? Because if he only appeared twice it's quite likely I wouldn't have mentioned him. It doesn't mean he didn't ride twice for the Rockets in 1986. My criterion for inclusion in the end of year averages was 6 matches. Hmmmm....well if he did appear for the Rockets it was more than likely away, cos I went to most of the home meetings and would've remembered the name.... Still not cleared up then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) How about Dick Fisher (Belle Vue 53-66) ? Also, Ron Johnston also of Belle Vue over the same time period. Apologies for suggesting Hans Wasserman, didn't release that 5 years was the watershed mark. Not my era but I think Per Jonsson only rode for Reading in Britain and hasn't been mentioned. Dick Fisher started at Fleetwood 1951, Ron Johnston rode for Sheffield in 1950. Edited May 13, 2009 by cyclone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) Hmmmm....well if he did appear for the Rockets it was more than likely away, cos I went to most of the home meetings and would've remembered the name.... Still not cleared up then Actually, if you go back to frigbo's post - "Glasgow and Exeter at home, last two League Meetings." - that would appear to clear it up. Steve Edited May 13, 2009 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Though he rode for Liverpool 'Chads' early on, Peter Craven doubled up with Belle Vue in 1952 and rode for them until his untimely death in 1963 - anyone in speedway will still regard him as a Belle Vue man. http://www.peter-craven.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Though he rode for Liverpool 'Chads' early on, Peter Craven doubled up with Belle Vue in 1952 and rode for them until his untimely death in 1963 - anyone in speedway will still regard him as a Belle Vue man. Naturally, but that's not really what this thread is about. If Ronnie Moore and Ron Johnston can be discounted - much as we would like to remember them as one-track riders - then PC has to go too. Sorry, Jim. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervjankefanclub Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 For some reason, I have this niggling doubt about Ron Johnston; I just seem to recall him riding for someone else. I always thought New Cross was his main club Surprised no one has mentioned Rick Miller yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) I always thought New Cross was his main club Surprised no one has mentioned Rick Miller yet. Merv; Can I assist here? Ron Johnson was the New Cross man and Ron Johnston was the Belle Vue rider. Two different riders. I think that Steve was refering to the Belle Vue rider Johnston. Can be confusing - speedway racing - at the best of times. Edited May 13, 2009 by Jim Blanchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervjankefanclub Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) Merv; Can I assist here? Ron Johnson was the New Cross man and Ron Johnston was the Belle Vue rider. Two different riders. I think that Steve was refering to the Belle Vue rider Johnston. Can be confusing - speedway racing - at the best of times. Thanks for that Jim, I always thought people just couldnt decide over the spelling of Ron's name over the years, wether it was with the 'T' or without, a bit like Mike Broadbank(s). Is the Rangers Johnson, the Scottish born rider who emigrated to Oz when he was a boy Edited May 13, 2009 by mervjankefanclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thanks for that Jim, I always thought people just couldnt decide over the spelling of Ron's name over the years, wether it was with the 'T' or without, a bit like Mike Broadbank(s). Is the Rangers Johnson, the Scottish born rider who emigrated to Oz when he was a boy Correct and in the twilight of his career, he briefly turned out for Ashfield (51 or 52) and second halved at Edinburgh in 1960 and made a single team appearance. Like Dick Fisher, Peter Craven also appeared for Fleetwood in 1951. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I think that Steve was refering to the Belle Vue rider Johnston. Absolutely correct, Jim. I just had the feeling that he'd ridden for at least one other Northern club. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Blanchard Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Absolutely correct, Jim. I just had the feeling that he'd ridden for at least one other Northern club. Steve I think you maybe wrong on that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I think you maybe wrong on that too. Sorry Jim, but I'm not. As has been stated, he appeared for Sheffield in 1950. Anyway, you're up late tonight! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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