Rob Lyon With A Headache Already!

[rearing to go]

What with Oliver Allen and Ben Barker both out with broken legs.Tai Woffinden racing unfit with an injured shoulder.

Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls looking well below par, its not looking too good on the international front. Hope this nightmare start to the season with injuries is about to end.

Edited May 9, 2009 by rearing to go

[Gemini]

Not until July though is it? Hopefully Ben and Olly will both be riding again by then.

[spook]

tbh the best we should be hoping for anyway is to reach the final and for 2 or 3 of our youngsters to get some experience.... it would be silly to expect more

[shazzybird]

Oh well ...... gives him time to think of an excuse for losing and answering to his critics why he should keep the job as TEAM GB manager Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot he wont have to do that will he ...... the biggest critic is his biggest brown nose fan

[Ron Butler]

Oh well ...... gives him time to think of an excuse for losing and answering to his critics why he should keep the job as TEAM GB manager Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot he wont have to do that will he ...... the biggest critic is his biggest brown nose fan

 

 

Oh dear, Shaz, you're getting a tad cynical. I wonder why?

[Ron Butler]

Not until July though is it? Hopefully Ben and Olly will both be riding again by then.

 

 

Speedway seems to live on a day-to-day basis, Gem, so I feel that by then we should be able to track a reasonable team -though not necessarily a winning one.

 

[SCB]

Oh well ...... gives him time to think of an excuse for losing and answering to his critics why he should keep the job as TEAM GB manager Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I forgot he wont have to do that will he ...... the biggest critic is his biggest brown nose fan

As the Middlo brown nosers fans kept telling us, the manager can only work with the rider available to him. But what the Middlo brown nosers fans kept ignoring was that Middlo was tactically inept and almost every season made a mistake. Lets see what Rob Lyons does aye? If he make the same sort of mistakes, be sure I'll be on here pointing it out.

[T.N.T.]

Let's face it, Team GB will do well to reach the final and more than likely go out at the play-off round yet again.

 

Scott Nicholls, Chris Harris, Lee Richardson, Tai Woffinden and Edward Kennett are the five sure to start if injuries don't happen with Stead, Allen and Bridger as back up, but they dont have the strength of the other teams and now he holds a Polish passport, adding Emil to the Polish team means its another shoot out with Denmark for the title with Aussies third.

[Silver Bee]

Why Woffinden and not Bridger? Ridiculous arrogance. Lewis is currently averaging over a point more using SpeedwayUpdates averages.

[T.N.T.]

Tai has had a few knocks, a few engine problems, riding alongside a stronger partner and for a much stronger team plus he proved last year he should not be kept out again.

 

I rate Lewis and really wanted him to be at Monmore Green this year, but sadly that didn't happen as it would have been good to see both in the same team. If it was down to who I would pick then I would possibly put Lewis in the team ahead of either Nicholls, Harris or Richardson.

 

Instead of Nicholls because he has opted out of the Elite League, Harris because he struggles against top riders and Richardson because if he doesn't gate its game over most times. I would even consider Oliver Allen alongside them if it was down to personal preference.

[IW08]

On current form, both Nicholls and Harris don't deserve to be in the 5 TBH as there are other British riders riding far better than them.

 

Rico

Woffinden

Bridger

King

Kennett

 

with Allen as backup.

 

We should go with the youth as at least they'd give it a go and we can't do much worse than the pathetic showings from our so-called world-class riders of recent years. If Lyon wanted to pick one 'experienced head', then it should be Rico as he is the only British rider I'm aware of that consistently averages around 7 or more in Britain, Poland and Sweden.

 

Nicholls has turned his back on his home country, just like that, after all the years he's been looked after by various clubs and supported by the fans. All he cares about it seems is the Grand Prixs so let him do just that, but of course, Lyon will probably name the usual mob. It's about time bold moves were taken and we looked to the future.

Edited May 6, 2009 by chris26

[spook]

Why Woffinden and not Bridger? Ridiculous arrogance. Lewis is currently averaging over a point more using SpeedwayUpdates averages.

 

and for me this is the issue now that Rob Lyon has set his stall out under the banner of bringing the youngsters on............. if Nicholls, Harris and Rico are used then we only have two spots for youngsters remaining..... and tbf that would have naturally been the case for any GB manager this season under whatever banner they were deciding to hold

 

If Rob really means what he is saying then he has a hard decision over whether to drop one of those 'top' 3 or not.............. I think I would be a controversial GB manager but I would be dropping one of them ..... either the one least in form at that time .......or Rico..........

 

I like Rico ... he is a nice guy and has a decent SWC record overall but quite frankly he is not going to be getting any better (yes the same applies to Scott as well) and if this year really is about bringing on the youngsters then it makes full sense to make sure that Ed, Lewis and Tai race................... at some stage we have to grab the bull by the horns and after deciding that we have little chance of winning we need to really build for the future and dedicate the SWC to building experience

 

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Nicholls has turned his back on his home country, just like that, after all the years he's been looked after by various clubs and supported by the fans. All he cares about it seems is the Grand Prixs so let him do just that,

 

sorry chris (and TNT) but it is 100% irrelevant....... what is relevant is who is best able to help the youngsters and who will put in a decent showing

 

 

and re: danny king ...................... for me he needs to continue his form this season and improve on it next season before he should be included if we are building for the future............................. he is still young but his career so far has very much been 2 and a half steps forward 2 steps back............ i'm pleased for him that something is starting to click but this wouldnt be the first time he has been here

Edited May 6, 2009 by spook

[RPNY]

The form riders come July should be picked for the tournament. I would also think that if he is doing well, Danny King should well be in contention for the meeting at P'boro with his track knowledge.

Fingers crossed Lewis will continue his current form, Tai will get on top form & Scotty and Bomber will start to make some strides in the GP (wishful thinking I know!)

[Mark]

I'd have Bridger in the team as he is riding very well. Woofy isn't at the moment.

 

a few weeks to go before team selection so plenty can happen

[The Know]

Speedway seems to live on a day-to-day basis, Gem, so I feel that by then we should be able to track a reasonable team -though not necessarily a winning one.

i very much doudt it.

[Daniel Smith]

I've mulled over this for weeks and as a King's Lynn fan I didn't want to say this but I feel Rob Lyon has already made his first mistake.

 

And that was naming Nicholls as captain. That already states, it doesn't matter how bad he rides, he's first pick, and that's wrong.

 

Any captain should be a rider on form and someone for the younger riders to look up to. Nicholls is neither of though's i'm affraid

[maneacat]

 

 

With the exception of Nicholls all other riders mentioned in this thread for a team place will visit the EoES with their various clubs (Bridger twice infact) so this should give Rob Lyon ample opportunity to make his selection for the SWC2 in July. If Nicholls is to be in the team he needs to get himself to Peterborough for some track time after our meetings which I am sure would be granted to him.

 

Looking at his selected squad and bearing in mind their opposition at the EoES will be the Poles, Aussies and Slovenia it will be a very tough meeting and realistically I would expect Gb to come third.

 

Squad: Allen, Barker, Bridger, Harris, Kennett, King, Nicholls, Richardson, Screen, Stead, Woffinden, Wright.

 

I would go with

 

Nicholls - (providing he gets some practice of the EoEs) he is experienced and rides the Eoes well

Harris - Didnt have a good meeting at Peterborough last visit but is very capable there

Bridger - On form rider who has 2 visits to prove he deserves a place

Rico - Is having a good season with Lakeside and can ride the EoES well - 1 visit to come

Woffy - Rode well at Eoes in Pairs event last season - has 1 visit to prove himself

 

Of the remainder Allen, Barker, King and Wright will be out of their depth at the Showground in this company so not in my team. I have chosen Woffy over Kennett, Screen and Stead because they have had good and bad meetings and lack consistency but all 4 have one visit with their respective clubs to prove me wrong. Unless one of them has an outstanding meeting between now and July at the EoES which would warrant their inclusion I feel Woffy should be given an opportunity.

 

 

 

[UnitedUnitedUnited]

With the exception of Nicholls all other riders mentioned in this thread for a team place will visit the EoES with their various clubs (Bridger twice infact) so this should give Rob Lyon ample opportunity to make his selection for the SWC2 in July. If Nicholls is to be in the team he needs to get himself to Peterborough for some track time after our meetings which I am sure would be granted to him.

 

Looking at his selected squad and bearing in mind their opposition at the EoES will be the Poles, Aussies and Slovenia it will be a very tough meeting and realistically I would expect Gb to come third.

 

Squad: Allen, Barker, Bridger, Harris, Kennett, King, Nicholls, Richardson, Screen, Stead, Woffinden, Wright.

 

I would go with

 

Nicholls - (providing he gets some practice of the EoEs) he is experienced and rides the Eoes well

Harris - Didnt have a good meeting at Peterborough last visit but is very capable there

Bridger - On form rider who has 2 visits to prove he deserves a place

Rico - Is having a good season with Lakeside and can ride the EoES well - 1 visit to come

Woffy - Rode well at Eoes in Pairs event last season - has 1 visit to prove himself

 

Of the remainder Allen, Barker, King and Wright will be out of their depth at the Showground in this company so not in my team. I have chosen Woffy over Kennett, Screen and Stead because they have had good and bad meetings and lack consistency but all 4 have one visit with their respective clubs to prove me wrong. Unless one of them has an outstanding meeting between now and July at the EoES which would warrant their inclusion I feel Woffy should be given an opportunity.

 

You have added in Tai, after his pairs peformance

 

1. Lukas Dryml 4, 4, 3, 4, 3, 4 = 22

2. Carl Wilkinson 3, 0, R, 2, R, N = 5 (27

 

3. Rene Bach 2, 0, 2, 0, 0, 0 = 4

4. Stuart Robson 0, 3, 3, 2, 4, 2 = 14 (18)

 

5. Claus Vissing 3, 4, 4, 3, F, 3, 17

6. Lee Complin 2, 2, 2, 0, 2, 2 = 10 (27)

 

7. Kenneth Bjerre 4, 4, 4, 4, 3, 4 = 23

8. Casper Wortmann 0, 0, 0, 0, R, 2 = 2 (25)

 

9. Karol Zabik 3, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4 = 18

10. Tai Woffinden 4, 3, 4, 4, 2, R = 17 (35)

 

11. Lewis Bridger 2, 4, 3, 4, 2, 3 = 18

12. Richard Hall 0, 0, R, 2, 3, 0 = 5 (23)

 

13. Henning Bager 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4 = 19

14. Ulrich Ostergaard 2, 2, 0, 2, 4, 3 = 13 (32)

 

Hardly anyone there apart from Bjerre, that is close to the same level as world cup level?

 

IMO the strongest line up is:

 

Nicholls

Harris

Rico

Kennett

Bridger

 

all go well enough round the EOES, King can be back up, and were well away, but do agree, riders need practice around here first.

[maneacat]

You have added in Tai, after his pairs peformance

 

1. Lukas Dryml 4, 4, 3, 4, 3, 4 = 22

2. Carl Wilkinson 3, 0, R, 2, R, N = 5 (27

 

3. Rene Bach 2, 0, 2, 0, 0, 0 = 4

4. Stuart Robson 0, 3, 3, 2, 4, 2 = 14 (18)

 

5. Claus Vissing 3, 4, 4, 3, F, 3, 17

6. Lee Complin 2, 2, 2, 0, 2, 2 = 10 (27)

 

7. Kenneth Bjerre 4, 4, 4, 4, 3, 4 = 23

8. Casper Wortmann 0, 0, 0, 0, R, 2 = 2 (25)

 

9. Karol Zabik 3, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4 = 18

10. Tai Woffinden 4, 3, 4, 4, 2, R = 17 (35)

 

11. Lewis Bridger 2, 4, 3, 4, 2, 3 = 18

12. Richard Hall 0, 0, R, 2, 3, 0 = 5 (23)

 

13. Henning Bager 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4 = 19

14. Ulrich Ostergaard 2, 2, 0, 2, 4, 3 = 13 (32)

 

Hardly anyone there apart from Bjerre, that is close to the same level as world cup level?

 

IMO the strongest line up is:

 

Nicholls

Harris

Rico

Kennett

Bridger

 

all go well enough round the EOES, King can be back up, and were well away, but do agree, riders need practice around here first.

 

 

Well we agree on everyone apart from Kennett and Woffy - just dont rate Eddie round the showground - look at his last visit (2 pts) I am certain Lewis can do much better. King had a good meeting this season at the showground but believe he will be out of his depth in this one. Woffy at No. 5 for me but only if none of the others I mentioned prove their selves over the next few weeks in club visits - and the same applies to him. If he has a bad meeting when Wolves visit then out he goes.

 

 

 

 

 

[UnitedUnitedUnited]

Well we agree on everyone apart from Kennett and Woffy - just dont rate Eddie round the showground - look at his last visit (2 pts) I am certain Lewis can do much better. King had a good meeting this season at the showground but believe he will be out of his depth in this one. Woffy at No. 5 for me but only if none of the others I mentioned prove their selves over the next few weeks in club visits - and the same applies to him. If he has a bad meeting when Wolves visit then out he goes.

 

and his 3 before that?

 

4. Edward Kennett 3, 1, 3, 3 = 10 - only beaten by niels after gating first.

 

season before:

 

5. Edward Kennett: 3 - 2 - 3 - 0 = 8 - lost to hans twice and king once

5. Edward Kennett 3, 3, 3, 3 = 12

 

so one bad meeting in last 4, and thats because the track was completely different, and remember....it will be different on the day off the world cup, as Ole will do the track, and it might even favour the brits, and also another one, they can come down and practice after the league meetings, so will get the set up more, Eddy has more experiance off the EOES and also the better riders.

 

Woffy is certainly up with a chance, but for this meeting, id go Kennett, and if we qualify, ill go tai IMO.

Edited May 9, 2009 by UnitedUnitedUnited