shoy Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Im really hoping all these changes scott has made really pay off at the weekend and proves all the dowters wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 In my opinion, Scott is easily good enough to be in the GP series. He's always in the top ten in the world and can beat antone on a good day. It'll be interesting to see if his decision to give the Elite a miss helps him out, I believe it will. Do I think he will be World Champion? No I don't, but I do believe he'll be top eight. Would really like to see Leigh Adams win it this time, such a great pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 No I don't, but I do believe he'll be top eight. Â What high standards we set. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Well humphrey if you want to be the best then as much as it takes. Â It seems to have become fashionable to have vast entourages in the expectation that it'll help you win things, but things will swing back in the other direction in time. Frankly most of the top competitors in any discipline would probably still be as successful without all the hangers-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'm just being realistic Humphrey. Scott usually has to rely on being picked rather than having an automatic spot. Think it would be foolish of me to expect him to be champion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 From the newly revamped and very smart Speedway World, he has been suffering from a virus...so god knows what we'll get on Saturday  http://speedwaygp.com/en/index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 He can beat anyone on a good day? Â The issue is he very rarely has a good day. My opinion is he is wasting a space that could be used to bring in a younger guy and to spice up the series. Scott has had way too many wildcards provings he isnt actually upto the standard of the sries as he cant even finish in the automtic qualifying places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I agree his consistancy has been his downfall but there is no doubting that the guy is a racer and can mix it with the best. He's also got determination and has tried a number of things to get his act together over the last few years. Yes he's had his share of wildcards but he doesn't make that decision does he? If we're talking about people being denied a space because of wildcards then there is one guy who sticks out and it's not Scott! Youngsters don't always work out well, they come in full of enthusiasm and expectation and end up getting their arses kicked, it can't be good for confidence in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 What high standards we set.   He can beat anyone on a good day? The issue is he very rarely has a good day. My opinion is he is wasting a space that could be used to bring in a younger guy and to spice up the series. Scott has had way too many wildcards provings he isnt actually upto the standard of the sries as he cant even finish in the automtic qualifying places  but hang on guys ..  first of all who said that these are the standards being set? I'm certainly not the one setting standards for Scotty..... im sure him and kelvin have their own........... and secondly do the Swedes feel the same about AJ?...... lets face it he has only ever been one step ahead of Scott and is unlikely to win a GP series judging by his career so far and ability to implode.......  There is absolutely nothing wrong with having our best riders included until we have other riders coming through and riding better  We should NOT be allowing our youngsters to get in the GP series too soon and hopefully we have the FIM and BSI making sure of that.......... if a youngster is dropped in too soon it is as likely to set him back/destroy him as much as he is likely to swim/excel   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnoaj Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 You're right spook, I don't recall setting any standards, I was just simply giving my opinion on how he would do. Can you imagine the response if I'd said I thought Scott would be champion this year? Setting standards is another topic altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 but hang on guys .. first of all who said that these are the standards being set? I'm certainly not the one setting standards for Scotty..... im sure him and kelvin have their own........... and secondly do the Swedes feel the same about AJ?...... lets face it he has only ever been one step ahead of Scott and is unlikely to win a GP series judging by his career so far and ability to implode.......  There is absolutely nothing wrong with having our best riders included until we have other riders coming through and riding better  We should NOT be allowing our youngsters to get in the GP series too soon and hopefully we have the FIM and BSI making sure of that.......... if a youngster is dropped in too soon it is as likely to set him back/destroy him as much as he is likely to swim/excel  Ah but AJ is an entertainer, someone that never gives up. Can the same be said for Scott?  Agree with your point about the youngsters, they would be ruined by going in too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Scott doesn't give up, I think that's harsh on him, but he certainly doesn't have the raw skill and/or excitement levels that AJ has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Ah but AJ is an entertainer, someone that never gives up. Can the same be said for Scott?  Agree with your point about the youngsters, they would be ruined by going in too soon.  Well being British I am prone to being blinded by things like that with Scotty because for 3 hours every fortnight I am put through a roller coaster of emotions with him. However.........  Can we really say Scotty isnt an exciting rider when the first things that people would say about him are:  awful gater physical fast bikes  just the fact he is less than average in terms of gating must mean that he gives us passing for him to even be in the series  aside from his nationality I think he has been one of the riders to give us the best races in the GP's........and I truly dont think that he gives up because he is nearly always on the cusp of making the semis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungoid Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I wrote on here about a year ago that I thought Scott Nicholls was slightly overweight. Not fat but he's a solid built guy who could tone down a little bit thus taking weight off the bike. Nikki P led the way with losing weight. I see from Kelvin Tatum's comments that he has lost plenty of weight so well done to Scott. His scores have been good as well.  Hopefully top 5 this year and a GP win i met him a few weeks back and there is nothing on him! looked like he could do with a good feed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoy Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Come on guys give him a chance . Let his speedway do the talking .. I think he do well he just needs to be consistant .. I waner see the guy do well he deserves his place in the GP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 You are new so I will let you off!! This subject has been debated to death on here. In answer to your question, yes he is one of the best 16 riders in the world. Will he ever become World Champion? No chance.   Thats it in a nutshell topic closed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I just hope he doesnt start off every GP with a 1 or 0 in his first ride like he did last few years. Thats one thing that really annoys me, British riders, whether it be individual or team events, always seem to not be able to 'get the right set up' from the start. The Scandi's, Aussies & (when they were riding high) the yanks all seemed to be able to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Scott Nicholls' GP record:  2001: Finished in top 6 of GP challenge and qualified for 2002 GP 2002: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition 2003: Qualified for 2004 series 2004: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition 2005: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition 2006: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition 2007: Qualified for 2008 series after knocking off Chris Harris in run-off 2008: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition  It's not impresive reading is it?  All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Â Â 2001: Finished in top 6 of GP challenge and qualified for 2002 GP 2002: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition 2003: Qualified for 2004 series 2004: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition - Missed 2 GP's through injury. 2005: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition - Finished 9th. 2006: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition - Missed a GP thru injury, finished only 8 points off qualifying. 2007: Qualified for 2008 series after knocking off Chris Harris in run-off - Subject of debate. And 1 race doesnt decide a season. 2008: Failed, but seeded into following year's competition - Finished 9th 3 points off qualifying. Â Now I know you can always make exscuses, but just trying to illustrate that it's not quite as black & white as you tried to make out. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Its is black and white though. it doesnt matter how many GPs he missed or by how many points he failed the fact is if he was as capable as people say he wouldnt be fighting for the final qualification place and missing out by a few points here and there. Â He is a wild card lover simple as that and is taking up a place in the series that could go elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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