iris123 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Personally if my employer offered me a cut in my money but the chance to keep my current job in the current financial climate, I'd be there like a shot. In all fairness though....and not knowing what you do....there are probably 5 or 10 people in Poole waiting that could do your job.....on the other hand there are only one or two that could do Nicki's....in the world.....if that(and they are signed up already).And we all know if the crunch comes and after a few meetings a team is struggling badly they can find that extra bit of money....usually Edited April 8, 2009 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 The point I was really trying to make was that Nicki has a signed contract that states he will get 'x'. The club should have had the foresight to negociate a deal it could afford in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 The point I was really trying to make was that Nicki has a signed contract that states he will get 'x'. The club should have had the foresight to negociate a deal it could afford in the first place. If everyone could foresee everything impacting on their deals life would be so easy, wouldn't it! In the real world, circumstances change and contracts get renegotiated in every line of business on a daily basis. The only reason a club would negotiate a deal like that in the first place is because they had guarantees which somebody else welshed on. What choice have they got? Go out of business but stick to the letter of Nicki's contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 If you read my posts properly you'll see that I don't entirely disagree. I just said that if it's a 50% cut I would lean towards falling on Nicki's side of the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Not going to use quotes from previous people but wanted to add: Tex and Mat - A 50% pay cut is a lot but what I woud like to know -what is the 2nd highest placed rider in his team being paid? Was Nicki being overpaid compared to the rest of the team. If so the deal should never have been made in the first place Rabbit - He may be on a high salary but you do still need to factor in - travel, although probably a seperate deal in the contract, mechanics, equipment and a pro-rata'ed salary over the twelve months. Stating the obvious I know but I thought it needed adding. But - if someone could answer the question about the next averaged riders then I would be able to offer a more considered opinion on whether he is over-paid or not!!!! Edited April 8, 2009 by Sandie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Perhaps my attitude appears rather harsh to some. I suppose I just don't feel much sympathy towards someone still being offered £200k in one country (and we're probably talking close to £500k overall when other countries/meeting/sponsorship deals etc are taken into account) for the amount of meetings he'd actually do. I hear all the arguments about costs etc, but we're not exactly talking about someone being forced to walk the poverty line even after all of that. I guess I'm just looking at the bigger picture rather than just focussing on speedway. Edited April 8, 2009 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Perhaps my attitude appears rather harsh to some. I suppose I just don't feel much sympathy towards someone still being offered £200k in one country (and we're probably talking close to £500k overall when other countries/meeting/sponsorship deals etc are taken into account) for the amount of meetings he'd actually do. I hear all the arguments about costs etc, but we're not exactly talking about someone being forced to walk the poverty line even after all of that. I guess I'm just looking at the bigger picture rather than just focussing on speedway. I certainly dont disagree with that arguement Rabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) A very unofficial pay list from one of Polish newspapers. Published in January, only 1 mln zl and above... Later on, shortly before the season, Gollob (and other Gorzow riders) agreed to some pay cut (about 25%, I reckon). The second highest paid one in Czestochowa was Greg Hancock. 1. Tomasz Gollob - 2,1 mln 2. Nicki Pedersen - 1,95 3. Jason Crump - 1,8 4. Leigh Adams 1,6 5. Rune Holta 1,45 6. Hans Andersen 1,4 7. Greg Hancock 1,35 8. Andreas Jonsson 1,3 9. Kenneth Bjerre 1,25 10.Jarosław Hampel 1,2 11.Scott Nicholls 1,15 12.Grzegorz Walasek 1,15 13.Krzysztof Kasprzak 1,1 14.Chris Harris 1,05 15.Emil Sajfutdinow 1 16.Bjarne Pedersen 1 17.Ryan Sullivan 1 PS. I don't really care about NP but if I had been offered a contract with the amount about 2 mln zl, so more less the money Gollob and Crump get, and then had been told about the pay cut to the level of Bjarne or Sullivan, I would have not agreed either and left the club. Edited April 8, 2009 by Mateusz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 according to a danish news article Nicki is Prepared to accept a 20-30% pay cut in Poland: "Den fynske verdensmester er i konkrete forhandlinger med to klubber i Polen efter krakket i Czestochowa. Men Nicki Pedersen må indstille sig på en lønnedgang på 20-30 procent" it says that the World champion from Fyn (The Danish Island Nicki is from) is negotiating with teams in Poland after he broke the contract with c'towa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 If others accepted a pay cut of around 25% and Nicki is prepared to accept a cut of around 20%-30% I think few could argue that's fair enough. It also adds weight to the suggestion that he had been expected to take a much bigger, and arguably unfair, cut by Czestochowa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmiller Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Just been looking at the Czestochowa website and if Google Translate can be trusted, it appears that finance has been found for Greg Hancock to continue with the team. Good news for Greg but where does that leave Nicki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Just been looking at the Czestochowa website and if Google Translate can be trusted, it appears that finance has been found for Greg Hancock to continue with the team. Good news for Greg but where does that leave Nicki? The following is taken from Greg's website (http://www.greghancock.com/News.aspx): 09/04/2009 Back in Poland I have agreed terms again with . I had been in talks with a couple of other clubs but in the end, came up with a more attractive offer for me to stay in their club. Now the racing is FULL GAS again! Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 What odds on him receiving all his money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmiller Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Yep, I thought that too - depends if you believe in lightening striking twice... As the finance appears to be coming from several sources, the odds must be for the majority of it being paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) Latest news - NP stays in Cz-wa ! They managed to find a few sponsors who will pay him. Don't know more details though - whether there was any pay cut or not (but I guess there was). Edited April 17, 2009 by Mateusz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) Latest news - NP stays in Cz-wa ! They managed to find a few sponsors who will pay him. Don't know more details though - whether there was any pay cut or not (but I guess there was). yeah thats basically what is says on nickis website. this article http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/m...icle1155957.ece says that33 Nicki has accepted a 30% paycut (~£100'000) Edited April 17, 2009 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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