Rebel 77 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 How much was it to get into your local track when you first started to watch ? How much much did the riders earn,was a number 1 paid the same per point as a number 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK Rides Again Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 I can't remember exactly, but I think the entrance fee was slightly less than 50p at Wimbledon in 1970 (it would've been pre-decimalisation, 7/6 comes to mind) and a programme was between 5 and 10p. Interestingly, using a conversion calculator, your 50p in 1971 (decimal) is worth a bit over £9 today (as compared to average income) so maybe speedway hasn't gone up as much as we think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) How much was it to get into your local track when you first started to watch ? How much much did the riders earn,was a number 1 paid the same per point as a number 7 1946. Belle Vue [Hyde Road, of course]. Admission: Popular Side - 1 shilling and sixpence [decimal = 7.5p] Grandstand Side - 2 shillings and sixpence [decimal = 12.5p] Programme: 6d [decimal = 2.5p] As far as I can remember all riders were paid on a starts and points basis at £1 per start and 10 shillings per point. There was no 'appearance' money. Also in that era there was no sponsorship of either club or riders. Edited March 16, 2009 by Ron Butler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK Rides Again Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 1946. Belle Vue [Hyde Road, of course]. Admission: Popular Side - 1 shilling and sixpence [decimal = 12.5p] Grandstand Side - 2 shillings and sixpence [decimal = 20.5p] Programme: 6d [decimal = 2.5p] As far as I can remember all riders were paid on a starts and points basis at £1 per start and 10 shillings per point. There was no 'appearance' money. Also in that era there was no sponsorship of either club or riders. Not that the club needed it. At those rates, with an average crowd of 10,000 paying the lowest entrance and not buying a programme, they would've been hauling in £750 a meeting and paying maybe 7 quid to their best rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 No idea. My dad paid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 In 1962 it used to cost me the kids' rate of one shilling and threepence (6p) to get into Meadowbank, plus sixpence (2.5p) for the programme. The adult admission was two shillings and sixpence (12.5p). This was the Provincial League, equivalent to today's Premier League. Riders were paid £1 per start and £1 per point, so a heat win was worth £4. I don't think there were too many variations in that, but different riders would be paid different "signing on fees", as happens today. At that time, the winner of the World Championship at Wembley received a massive £500. I believe the cost of a complete bike (JAP) was around £300. A rider who broke the tapes was fined £1. I'm not sure that comparisons with today based on inflation are valid, but it can be interesting to compare these figures with other everyday costs at that time. A fish supper was around one shilling and sixpence (7.5p) and a Mars Bar was sixpence (2.5p). It was about eighteen inches long, of course. Petrol was, I think, two shillings and sixpence per gallon (2.5p per litre). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Grandstand Side - 2 shillings and sixpence [decimal = 20.5p] I think you'll find that was 12.5p, Ron. You'll remember there being 8 half-crowns in a pound, not to mention thirteen shillings and fourpence being two-thirds of a pound etc. they would've been hauling in £750 a meeting and paying maybe 7 quid to their best rider. Always assuming that their "best rider" only scored 5 from 4 (5 points at £1 each plus fouir starts at 10/- each). You must have been thinking of Glasgow, DK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) 1946. Belle Vue [Hyde Road, of course]. Admission: Popular Side - 1 shilling and sixpence [decimal = 12.5p] Grandstand Side - 2 shillings and sixpence [decimal = 20.5p] Programme: 6d [decimal = 2.5p] As far as I can remember all riders were paid on a starts and points basis at £1 per start and 10 shillings per point. There was no 'appearance' money. Also in that era there was no sponsorship of either club or riders. That's about the same admission money as I paid at New Cross, also in April 1946. Agree with the rider costs but would add that they then also had machine maintenance and travel money on top of their points money. A clean sweep of a 12 point maximum, two second half wins, equals £18. Start money - I think this was £1 a start in NL Division One. That would be race earnings of £24 in 1946 - what's that worth today? Edited March 15, 2009 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK Rides Again Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 I think you'll find that was 12.5p, Ron. You'll remember there being 8 half-crowns in a pound, not to mention thirteen shillings and fourpence being two-thirds of a pound etc. Always assuming that their "best rider" only scored 5 from 4 (5 points at £1 each plus fouir starts at 10/- each). You must have been thinking of Glasgow, DK. Yes, I realised later that 10 quid was nearer the mark. That's about the same admission money as I paid at New Cross, also in April 1946. Agree with the rider costs but would add that they then also had machine maintenance and travel money on top of their points money. A clean sweep of a 12 point maximum, two second half wins, equals £18. Start money - I think this was £1 a start in NL Division One. That would be race earnings of £24 in 1946 - what's that worth today? According to my little calculator, just short of £2300 against average earnings, out of gate money of about £72,000, a tidy sum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Based on the retail price index £24 would = £720 today ... based on avarage earnings £2,300.. its is very complicated working out money values.. and there is no right or wrong way.. and there are more ways than the 2 mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK Rides Again Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Based on the retail price index £24 would = £720 today ... based on avarage earnings £2,300.. its is very complicated working out money values.. and there is no right or wrong way.. and there are more ways than the 2 mentioned My calculator gives me five options, I only chose the average earnings as it's probably the one most people could easily relate to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I can remember paying 55p to get into Coatbridge in the mid-seventies . But before that my dad paid or he lifted me over the turnstile ( which was the norm at speedway and football in those days ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I think you'll find that was 12.5p, Ron. You'll remember there being 8 half-crowns in a pound, not to mention thirteen shillings and fourpence being two-thirds of a pound etc. Always assuming that their "best rider" only scored 5 from 4 (5 points at £1 each plus fouir starts at 10/- each). You must have been thinking of Glasgow, DK. Thanks for that, Ian. Both my admission price conversions were incorrect. They have been amended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Wimbledon main grandstand (child's admission) including the programme 50p, in 1976. It was cheaper at the non-grandstand entrance, but can't what 35p or 40p. Roughly the same price at White City & Hackney, if I remember. Can't remember Crayford's admission price though. Happy days, could go along to two or three meetings a week, somtimes to four venues . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star ghost Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 When I first went to the Firs in 1946 riders were on a sliding scale under rider pooling system.)Programmes were 6d each. In 1964 we paid 2/6 for the terraces but this was reduced to 2/- if we had supporters cards.Programmes were still 6d each. I reckon we got it cheap as we had the Worlds best ever in our team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Came across a copy of a Knowle Stadium paychit for a rider called Charlie Bourdon who rode at Middlesboro on 10/4/1947 which stated that he was paid for 4 starts @ £1 each, no points money earned, travel expenses £3.10.0 minus 3/6 insurance, total paid £7.6.6 There is a footnote to say that due to the low payout he was let off £2.10.0 machinery repair charge. This was his only appearence for Bristol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Came across a copy of a Knowle Stadium paychit for a rider called Charlie Bourdon who rode at Middlesboro on 10/4/1947 which stated that he was paid for 4 starts @ £1 each, no points money earned, travel expenses £3.10.0 minus 3/6 insurance, total paid £7.6.6 There is a footnote to say that due to the low payout he was let off £2.10.0 machinery repair charge. This was his only appearence for Bristol. An unhappy match for Charlie Bourdon. He had a fall and a non-start in the league match. His name never appeared previously in any Bristol or Middlesbrough meetings or subsequently. Charlie is only shown as two starts in the match and does appear in the second-half so he must have been paid a guaranteed four starts for the meeting. Edited March 26, 2009 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedocs123 Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 50P at Reading in 1976 including programme....seemed like better value for money than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 An unhappy match for Charlie Bourdon. He had a fall and a non-start in the league match. His name never appeared previously in any Bristol or Middlesbrough meetings or subsequently. Charlie is only shown as two starts in the match and does appear in the second-half so he must have been paid a guaranteed four starts for the meeting. This payslip was found recently by his daughter in his possessions after his death so he had kept it for over 60 years. It is rather poignant that he had kept a souvenir of the one occasion he had been given a chance which never came his way again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Man Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Not that the club needed it. At those rates, with an average crowd of 10,000 paying the lowest entrance and not buying a programme, they would've been hauling in £750 a meeting and paying maybe 7 quid to their best rider. Mustn't forget that tracks had to pay entertainment tax on the gate money, it was quite hefty, it closed a lot of Cinema's , theatres, and Speedway tracks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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