T.W. Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Does any body know the team members for the years 1947 to 1954 ? thanks in advance. Regards Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Bill Kitchen: 1947 - 52; 1954 Tommy Price: 1947 - 54 George Wilks: 1947 - 54 Split Waterman: 1947 - 49 Bill Gilbert: 1947 - 50 Bronco Wilson 1947 - 50 Freddie Williams: 1947 - 54 Bob Wells: 1947 - 51 Roy Craighead: 1947 - 48 Alf Bottoms: 1947 - 50 Wilbur Lamoreaux: 1948 Geo Saunders: 1948 - 49 Bruce Abernethy: 1948 - 51 Den Cosby: 1949 - 52 Eric Williams: 1950 - 54 Jimmy Gooch: 1950 - 54 Bob Oakley: 1951 - 52 Trevor Redmond: 1953 - 54 Brian Crutcher: 1953 - 54 Rune Sormander: 1953 Dennis Newton: 1953 Eric French: 1954 Fred Lang: 1954 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Bill Kitchen: 1947 - 52; 1954 Tommy Price: 1947 - 54 George Wilks: 1947 - 54 Split Waterman: 1947 - 49 Bill Gilbert: 1947 - 50 Bronco Wilson 1947 - 50 Freddie Williams: 1947 - 54 Bob Wells: 1947 - 51 Roy Craighead: 1947 - 48 Alf Bottoms: 1947 - 50 Wilbur Lamoreaux: 1948 Geo Saunders: 1948 - 49 Bruce Abernethy: 1948 - 51 Den Cosby: 1949 - 52 Eric Williams: 1950 - 54 Jimmy Gooch: 1950 - 54 Bob Oakley: 1951 - 52 Trevor Redmond: 1953 - 54 Brian Crutcher: 1953 - 54 Rune Sormander: 1953 Dennis Newton: 1953 Eric French: 1954 Fred Lang: 1954 That's a very interesting list Norman. 23 riders who rode for Wembley between 1947 and 1954. Yet of the 23, only two (Jimmy Gooch and Trevor Redmond)were still riding, as far as I can recall, when I started watching speedway in 1962. It seems an improbably low number, so I started trying to work out what the reason might be. I assume it was the near-collapse of the sport in the mid-50s that saw off such a large number of riders? Would you agree with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 (edited) I think Split Waterman, Eric Williams and Roy Craighead were still riding in 1962. Possibly Rune Sormander, though not in this country. Also maybe Denis Newton. Not sure without looking up records. Of course, Bill Kitchen, Tommy Price, George Wilks and Wilbur Lamoreaux were all pre-War stars and Brian Crutcher retired far too early. Bill Gilbert also retired young, although he did make a brief comeback with Norwich. In general the other riders were mostly immediate post-War products, so I suppose that by 1962 they were getting on a bit, so it's not that surprising that may had retired by then. Edited March 1, 2009 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.W. Posted March 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Bill Kitchen: 1947 - 52; 1954 Tommy Price: 1947 - 54 George Wilks: 1947 - 54 Split Waterman: 1947 - 49 Bill Gilbert: 1947 - 50 Bronco Wilson 1947 - 50 Freddie Williams: 1947 - 54 Bob Wells: 1947 - 51 Roy Craighead: 1947 - 48 Alf Bottoms: 1947 - 50 Wilbur Lamoreaux: 1948 Geo Saunders: 1948 - 49 Bruce Abernethy: 1948 - 51 Den Cosby: 1949 - 52 Eric Williams: 1950 - 54 Jimmy Gooch: 1950 - 54 Bob Oakley: 1951 - 52 Trevor Redmond: 1953 - 54 Brian Crutcher: 1953 - 54 Rune Sormander: 1953 Dennis Newton: 1953 Eric French: 1954 Fred Lang: 1954 Thanks Norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 May I suggest that Jimmy Gooch was riding until at least 1964.Also a Buster Brown was a very minor player at Wembley in 1949 and at Swindon in 1962, I assume this to be the same person. Far be it for me to be picky with Norbold's list but I can't resist it. Bronco Wilson appeared in 1947 only. Bob Oakley also appeared in 1950 and Bill Kitchen in 1953. It is interesting to note that Wembley used more or less the same 8 riders right through any given season. If only that happened now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miro Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 May I suggest that Jimmy Gooch was riding until at least 1964. Gooch was riding until at least 1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 May I suggest that Jimmy Gooch was riding until at least 1964.Also a Buster Brown was a very minor player at Wembley in 1949 and at Swindon in 1962, I assume this to be the same person. Far be it for me to be picky with Norbold's list but I can't resist it. Bronco Wilson appeared in 1947 only. Bob Oakley also appeared in 1950 and Bill Kitchen in 1953. It is interesting to note that Wembley used more or less the same 8 riders right through any given season. If only that happened now. Yes, sorry, you're right on all counts. I don't know why I had Bronco Wilson from 1947-1950, as my own records show just 1947 - a transcription error! Bob Oakley I did have missing for 1950 for some reason and I also had Bill Kitchen missing for 1953, but, of course, they did ride for Wembley in those years. Sorry, T.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Trevor Redmond also rode for the Lions in 1952, pretty much the complete season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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