Vicar Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) Hei f-s-p. Could you tell me which Niklas Larsson was riding in Keittiopiste team in Extraliiga 22nd and 23rd of August? This one born 4.12.1972 and riding in Hallstavik, or this one born 31.03.1989 and riding in teams from Malilla? Edited August 31, 2009 by Vicar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) Hei f-s-p. Could you tell me which Niklas Larsson was riding in Keittiopiste team in Extraliiga 22nd and 23rd of August? This one born 4.12.1972 and riding in Hallstavik, or this one born 31.03.1989 and riding in teams from Malilla? The older one from Hallstavik. National/Classic Longtrack results from Vaasa Johan Kujala VaMK 55 10 Jari Kortelainen PirMM 45 9 Risto Einola PirMM 53 8 Marko Mäkinen OrMK 44 8 Mauri Palmi SeMK 14 5 Risto Flink SsMK 32 5 Mikael Lillkåll J-PMK 23 5 Mika Helin ValkMK 22 4 Mark Uzzell Englanti 3R 3 Markku Lepistö ValkMK 01 1 Peter Kristola J-PMK 10 1 Reino Koivuluoma KauhjMK R1 1 Erä erältä: 1. Kujala, Mäkinen, Flink, Lillkåll, Palmi, Lepistö 91,95 2. Einola, Kortelainen, Uzzell, Helin, Kristola, Koivuluoma R 92,10 3. Kortelainen, Palmi, Lillkåll, Helin, Lepistö, Kristola 93,74 4. Kujala, Mäkinen, Einola, Flink, Koivuluoma, Uzzell R 90,33 Finaali: Einola, Kortelainen, Mäkinen, Palmi, Flink, Kujala 90,89 Edited September 1, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 f-s-p, i heard you U21 coach, Miakel Teurnberg probably will leave you to join Rospiggarna as their new Team Manager who will step in as a new coach for Finland U21 then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 f-s-p, i heard you U21 coach, Miakel Teurnberg probably will leave you to join Rospiggarna as their new Team Manager who will step in as a new coach for Finland U21 then? He wont leave the U21's and no one needs to step in as it has all the time been managed/coached by Jyri Palomäki and Teurnberg together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 YIIHAA!! We are online at Gröndal! Rain maight affect tonights proceedings, but results will be here later today. First heat should start at 7PM local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarabanko Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 The finnish boys were really good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Results from both meetings so far can be found from www.speedway.fi, right top corner. Timo Lahti was the best today at Hallstavik. More about the meetings later. If anyone needs a good cook for a bbq, forget about tarabanko! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarabanko Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Results from both meetings so far can be found from www.speedway.fi, right top corner. Timo Lahti was the best today at Hallstavik. More about the meetings later. If anyone needs a good cook for a bbq, forget about tarabanko! haha,... My burgers were good =) Nice to have two wins for you! Timo Lahti was good in Eskilstuna to in his first heats but tailed off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) haha,... My burgers were good =) Nice to have two wins for you! Timo Lahti was good in Eskilstuna to in his first heats but tailed off... Food was great, thats true. But the flames seemed a bit high in the grill... The same was with Katajisto in Eskilstuna. Flying first and then seemed to fade away. Hallstavik was just pure Timo Lahti show, he was untouchable! Mustonen did well in Hallstavik too and Teemu Lahti got 10+5 from his five heats. He was untroubled also. In Gävle Timo Lahti kept on going but Katajisto found his form for that one too. The last heat ever (supposedly) at Gävle was great speedway between Anton Rosen, KK and Timo Lahti. Entering the last bend you could have covered the three with a blanket and Katajisto diving under Lahti after gathering speed for two laps to challenge him right to the end. In the end KK was beaten by a half a wheel! EDIT: There was 80cc Suomen Cup last weekend too in Finland. Mika Loppi won again and has now ridden 29 heats in Finland this season and won them all. He'll move up to 500cc after the last 80cc heat of the season and I know that big things are expected from him... Hope he come's good. Edited September 7, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Kaupunki Cup 4/6 Kauhajoki 5.9.2009 Kauhajoki 18+3 Markku Autio 33333 15+3 Jere Mattila 00210 3 Lahti II 21 Janne Nyman 13132 10 Jani Eerikäinen 21323 11 Pori 18+2 Jouni Viljanen 32322 12+2 Markku Larronmaa 10131 6 Seinäjoki 8 Jarkko Palmi 2R112 6 Reima Heikkilä 02000 2 Haapajärvi 10 Juho Ruuska 23221 10 Lahti I 14 Jukka Nieminen 11011 4 Kalle Kivistö 32203 10 Erä erältä: 1. Autio, Eerikäinen, Nyman, Mattila 63,31 2. Viljanen, Palmi, Larronmaa, Heikkilä 65.96 3. Kivistö, Ruuska, Nieminen 65,59 4. Autio, Kivistö, Nieminen, Mattila 63,68 5. Nyman, Viljanen, Eerikäinen, Larronmaa 66,19 6. Ruuska, Heikkilä, Palmi 66,89 7. Viljanen, Ruuska, Larronmaa 66,31 8. Eerikäinen, Kivistö, Nyman, Nieminen 64,71 9. Autio, Mattila, Palmi, Heikkilä 63,92 10. Nyman, Eerikäinen, Palmi, Heikkilä 66,15 11. Autio, Ruuska, Mattila 62,88 12. Larronmaa, Viljanen, Nieminen, Kivistö 68,45 13. Kivistö, Palmi, Nieminen, Heikkilä 69,43 14. Autio, Viljanen, Larronmaa, Mattila 63,13 15. Eerikäinen, Nyman, Ruuska 65,16 Uusinta: Autio, Viljanen 64,56 Katsojia 60 Kaupunki Cup 5/6 Lahti 6.9.2009 Postponed due to rain. New date on sunday September 13th. Busy day that one at the Lahti track with KC, EL and 80cc all in one day. Edited September 8, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bream Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 In heat 12. there was Lahti I riders too.. Not only Pori's. It had rained heavily but still track was smooth and hard. Very good track for KC riders. Not very exciting racing mostly.. few battle heats. Like heat 5. where Viljanen was chased by Nyman and Eerikäinen. I was at the best place of watching after I missed my start totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 In heat 12. there was Lahti I riders too.. Not only Pori's. It had rained heavily but still track was smooth and hard. Very good track for KC riders. Not very exciting racing mostly.. few battle heats. Like heat 5. where Viljanen was chased by Nyman and Eerikäinen. I was at the best place of watching after I missed my start totally. Good call!! The spreadsheet sent to me had two heats with six riders, one with five, one with one and two with two. Official "press release" also mentioned that Reima Heikkilä's points did not count for Seinäjoki's score and I have questioned that. Heikkilä was eligible to ride for Seinäjoki, no probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bream Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yeap, I noticed that too. Wierd.. I remember there was a number of meetings when you cant represent other teams. But this is like he is riding for them but his points dont count? Was he named for the team too late or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Was he named for the team too late or something? Does it really matter? I know teams should be named a few days in advance but you can always/should be able to make changes to the very last minute. Imagine this: Your whole team/two riders twisted their ankles or broke their index fingers on their way back from the dressing room just before the parade. Making them unable to to ride and two riders (eligible to ride and represent the said team) were at the pit's willing to take their place in the meeting. Would it be for the best interest towards anyone concerned to not give them a chance, but to disqualify the injured pair/team, give them a fine of 200 euros and kindly ask them to sit at the terraces for the meeting... I think that this was just a wrong interpretation of the VERY scarce set of rules for KC, or a simple case of people doing the interpretation without knowing/checking out the rules at all. Time will tell... I'd be happy to be proved wrong. EDIT: Pictures from U21 Suomi's weekend in Sweden will be updated in a day or two behind this link EDIT2: My pics wont get online until later in the week, but here are a couple of other galleries from the weekend Hallstavik and Gävle. Edited September 9, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bream Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I suppose it doesnt matter.. I just cant imagine anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 What ever has been written by me or any other regarding the scored rider points and team points in KC will have been not true. Situation regarding Reima Heikkilä at Kauhajoki has now cleared and the reason for his "exclusion" was, that he was listed as a Lahti II rider before the season. This said list has never been made public though and I have now asked for it. Anyway, there are at least three similar cases during the season, so a lot of rider points will be deducted before mid- November therefore causing the whole series getting a serious remake regarding team points. Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bream Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Ohh FFS!!! If this goes like that. Should EL riders points excluded too? Since they have been named for league teams?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Ohh FFS!!! If this goes like that. Should EL riders points excluded too? Since they have been named for league teams?! No. KC and EL are two different leagues with different rules. If you had an average under 6,00 in the EL from last season, you could ride in KC this season. Don't even get me started on the EL averages. There's a bomb so big brewing at the moment underneath, that if the same would happen in Sweden for example, heads would roll. For real. If you were not listed for a team in the KC before the season, you can ride for any team during the season until you ride for the 3rd time for one of them. Then you become "listed" to the team you've represented for the third time and you're their rider for the rest of the season. Heikkilä has now done two for Lahti II and two for Seinäjoki. If he would not have been listed for Lahti II before the season, he could do the last two rounds for Kauhajoki if he wanted to. But HE was listed for Lahti II, so all his points he's done for Seinäjoki should now be excluded. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it! If we could just see the list of the riders for each team, the problem would be solved within 30 minutes and new list of standings could be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Extraliiga 8/8 Lahti September 13th A couple of good battles made it worth it, but there were two teams that turned up with only three riders (the other one managed to find a replacement) and the racing wasn't all that great through the field. The track could have been better, but they did two meetings today on it, first the KC and then the EL and it almost held up OK for the EL. But like I said, there were a few good heats and battles and if I only concentrate on them, I might walk away from this season feeling good about it. Jokerit 36 Niko Siltaniemi d232 7 Markku Autio 23121 9 Kalle Katajisto 32333 14 Joni Keskinen 3201 6 HaukatRoyals 28 Tomi Reima 3326^12 17 Joni Kitala 1120 4 Aarni Heikkilä 120 3 Janne Nyman 20110 4 Keittiöpiste 26 Teemu Lahti 1d231 7 Timo Lahti 3316^23 18 Jukka Nieminen 0100 1 Kotkat 25 Juha Hautamäki 23232 12 Reima Heikkilä 000 0 Appe Mustonen 2132^20 10 Jarkko Palmi 1110 3 Erä erältä: 1. Reima, Hautamäki, Lahti, Siltaniemi d 65,41 2. T.Lahti, Autio, Kitala, R.Heikkilä 65,13 3. Katajisto, Mustonen, Heikkilä, Nieminen 64,44 4. Keskinen, Nyman, Palmi 68,06 5. T.Lahti, Siltaniemi, Mustonen, Nyman 65,70 6. Hautamäki, Katajisto, Kitala 65,50 7. Reima, Keskinen, Nieminen, R.Heikkilä 66,81 8. Autio, Heikkilä, Palmi, Lahti d 67,57 9. Mustonen, Reima, Autio 66,53 10. Katajisto, Lahti, Nyman, R.Heikkilä 65,53 11. Siltaniemi, Kitala, Palmi, Nieminen 68,41 12. Reima^, Hautamäki, T.Lahti, Keskinen 65,31 13. T.Lahti^, Siltaniemi, Mustonen^, Heikkilä 66,19 14. Hautamäki, Autio, Nyman, Nieminen 65,50 15. Katajisto, T.Lahti, Reima, Palmi 64,75 16. Lahti, Mustonen, Keskinen, Kitala 67,13 17. T.Lahti, Hautamäki, Autio, Nyman 65,78 18. Katajisto, Reima, Lahti, Mustonen 65,06 Katsojia 165 80cc 7/7 Lahti. Vili Hautala allowed his Smederna teamm8 Partanen win this one. I think it gave Partanen silver medal in the series. I'll find that out later. Vili Hautala KauhjMK 3332 11 Vili Mattila KauhjMK 3322 10 Niilo Vuolas HjMK 2313 9 Jooa Partanen KMMK 2223 9 Jere Lehtonen PMK d233 8 Santtu Tapiola SsMK 3d12 6 Perttu Tommola SsMK 1221 6 Antti Vuolas HjMK d131 5 Erä erältä: 1. Hautala, N.Vuolas, Vuolas d 50,16 2. Mattila, Partanen, Tommola 52,22 3. Tapiola, Lehtonen d ei aikaa 4. Hautala, Partanen 49,18 5. Mattila, Lehtonen, Vuolas 51,78 6. N.Vuolas, Tommola, Tapiola d 50,60 7. Hautala, Mattila, Tapiola 50,31 8. Vuolas, Tommola 52,06 9. Lehtonen, Partanen, N.Vuolas 53,06 10. Lehtonen, Hautala, Tommola 51,00 11. N.Vuolas, Mattila 51,79 12. Partanen, Tapiola, Vuolas 50,50 Finaali: Partanen, Hautala, Mattila, N.Vuolas 50,62 Kaupunki Cup 5/6 at Lahti Let's just focus on the results, since they'll change later on regarding team points. Lahti II 22 Joni Kitala 33122 11 Aarni Heikkilä 21233 11 Lahti I 18 Jukka Nieminen 11302 7 Kalle Kivistö 32213 11 Haapajärvi 15 Niko Siltaniemi 33333 15 Kauhajoki 13 Jere Mattila 00002 2 Teemu Mattila 22331 11 Seinäjoki 11+3 Jarkko Palmi 22121 8+3 Reima Heikkilä 11010 3 Pori 11+2 Jouni Viljanen 13221 9 Markku Larronmaa 0011d 2 Erä erältä: 1. Kitala, Heikkilä, Viljanen, Larronmaa 67,25 2. Siltaniemi, Palmi, R.Heikkilä 66,40 3. Kivistö, Mattila, Nieminen, J.Mattila 67,75 4. Kitala, Mattila, Heikkilä, J.Mattila 68,65 5. Viljanen, Palmi, R.Heikkilä, Larronmaa 71,56 6. Siltaniemi, Kivistö, Nieminen 66,34 7. Nieminen, Kivistö, Palmi, R.Heikkilä 72,94 8. Mattila, Viljanen, Larronmaa, J.Mattila 70,47 9. Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, Kitala 65,68 10. Siltaniemi, Viljanen, Larronmaa 65,88 11. Heikkilä, Kitala, Kivistö, Nieminen 67,97 12. Mattila, Palmi, R.Heikkilä, J:Mattila 70,27 13. Siltaniemi, J.Mattila, Mattila 66,18 14. Heikkilä, Kitala, Palmi, R.Heikkilä 69,06 15. Kivistö, Nieminen, Viljanen, Larronmaa d 71,02 Katsojia 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anders Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) Mika Loppi, despite flying over landing on the top (to be exact!) the safety fence in the first running of his third outing, managed to score 13+1 in 5 rides as Elit Vetlanda won the Swedish youth league title, winning today's final in Gislaved by 49 points to Västervik/Vargarna's 34 and Rospiggarna/Gasarna's 25. Miika Hyyryläinen scored 2+1 in 4 heats for Västervik/Vargarna. Edited September 13, 2009 by Anders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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