f-s-p Posted September 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Mika Loppi, despite flying over landing on the top (to be exact!) the safety fence in the first running of his third outing, managed to score 13+1 in 5 rides as Elit Vetlanda won the Swedish youth league title, winning today's final in Gislaved by 49 points to Västervik/Vargarna's 34 and Rospiggarna/Gasarna's 25. Miika Hyyryläinen scored 2+1 in 4 heats for Västervik/Vargarna. I heard that they landed on top of a moose too on their way to that meeting. Second year running you've won! Grattis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) Official statement out now saying that Kaj Laukkanen is not going to the longtrack challenge due to an injury. There are a couple of rumours doing the rounds here in Finland... One is that it's all done and dusted for him and the other is not so much of a rumour but a fact that he did not travel to Berghaupten for the EC final that he was supposed to be a reserve in... Perhaps there was a somesort of a penalty coming towards his actions... I would not know but isn't speculation all that this sport is about! Edited September 16, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariusz Dubi Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I updated some Finnish speedway history online. Here are the TOP3 of almost all the finals ever with dates and track information. I have loads of old clips to go through and getting more all the time. The plan is to sort this all out in the next 15 years or so. Individual final 1955-2009. I found a few different information... - 1961- you have: 1) Timo Laine, TMK 2) Antti Pajari, TMK 3) Ilkka Helminen, SsMK; I have: 1. Timo Laine 15, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen 14, Mikka Helminen 13 - 1962- 1. Timo Laine 15, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen 14, 3. Esko Koponen 13 - 1963- 1. Timo Laine, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen, 3. Matti Olin - 1967- Tampere+Lahti: 1. Matti Olin 29+, 2. Reima Lohkovuori 29+, 3. Veikko Metsahvone 20 - 1969- 1. Kalevi Lahtinen, 2. Matti Olin, 3. Timo Laine - 1970- 1. Kalevi Lahtinen, 2. Matti Olin, 3. Jouko Naskali - 1972- 3 rounds in Salpausselan, Tamperee and... (2 best results counted!) 1. Matti Olin (8,8,-) 16, 2. Hannu Kankanen (4,6,8) 14, 3. Kalevi Lahtinen (6,0,6) 12, 4. Heikki Ahonen (1,3,4) 7, 5. Kari Vuoristo (3,2,0) 5, 6. Pekka Paljakka (0,4,0) 4, 7. Matti Touru (0,0,3) 3, 8. Tapio Leppasalko (2,1,0) 3, 9. Jouko Naskali (-,-,2) 2, 10. Timo Naskali (-,0,1) 1 - 1973- 1. Matti Olin 15, 2. Ilkka Teromaa 14, 3. Reino Santala 12 - 1974- 1. Kari Vuoristo 15, 2. Matti Olin 14, 3. Veli Pekka Teromaa 13 - 1978- you have: 1) Kai Niemi PMK 2) Rauli Mäkinen, TaMK 3) Matti Koivuoja, PMK; I have: 1. Kai Niemi 12, 2. Rauli Mäkinen 12, 3. Martti Vayrynen 10 - 1980- 1. Kai Niemi 15, 2. Ari Koponen 14, Veijo Tuoriniemi 12 - 1985- you have: 1) Ari Koponen, SsMK 2) Juha Moksunen, TaMK 3) Olli Tyrväinen, VarkMPU; I have: 1. Ari Koponen 14, 2. Juha Moksunen 13, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13, 4. Olli Tyrväinen 13 - 1986- 1. Juha Moksunen 15, 2. Ari Koponen 14, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13 - 1987- 1. Ari Koponen 15, 2. Vesa Ylinen 14, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13 - 1989- 1. Juha Moksunen 14, 2. Olli Tyrvainen 13, 3. Kai Niemi 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I found a few different information... - 1961- you have: 1) Timo Laine, TMK 2) Antti Pajari, TMK 3) Ilkka Helminen, SsMK; I have: 1. Timo Laine 15, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen 14, Mikka Helminen 13 - 1962- 1. Timo Laine 15, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen 14, 3. Esko Koponen 13 - 1963- 1. Timo Laine, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen, 3. Matti Olin - 1967- Tampere+Lahti: 1. Matti Olin 29+, 2. Reima Lohkovuori 29+, 3. Veikko Metsahvone 20 - 1969- 1. Kalevi Lahtinen, 2. Matti Olin, 3. Timo Laine - 1970- 1. Kalevi Lahtinen, 2. Matti Olin, 3. Jouko Naskali - 1972- 3 rounds in Salpausselan, Tamperee and... (2 best results counted!) 1. Matti Olin (8,8,-) 16, 2. Hannu Kankanen (4,6,8) 14, 3. Kalevi Lahtinen (6,0,6) 12, 4. Heikki Ahonen (1,3,4) 7, 5. Kari Vuoristo (3,2,0) 5, 6. Pekka Paljakka (0,4,0) 4, 7. Matti Touru (0,0,3) 3, 8. Tapio Leppasalko (2,1,0) 3, 9. Jouko Naskali (-,-,2) 2, 10. Timo Naskali (-,0,1) 1 - 1973- 1. Matti Olin 15, 2. Ilkka Teromaa 14, 3. Reino Santala 12 - 1974- 1. Kari Vuoristo 15, 2. Matti Olin 14, 3. Veli Pekka Teromaa 13 - 1978- you have: 1) Kai Niemi PMK 2) Rauli Mäkinen, TaMK 3) Matti Koivuoja, PMK; I have: 1. Kai Niemi 12, 2. Rauli Mäkinen 12, 3. Martti Vayrynen 10 - 1980- 1. Kai Niemi 15, 2. Ari Koponen 14, Veijo Tuoriniemi 12 - 1985- you have: 1) Ari Koponen, SsMK 2) Juha Moksunen, TaMK 3) Olli Tyrväinen, VarkMPU; I have: 1. Ari Koponen 14, 2. Juha Moksunen 13, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13, 4. Olli Tyrväinen 13 - 1986- 1. Juha Moksunen 15, 2. Ari Koponen 14, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13 - 1987- 1. Ari Koponen 15, 2. Vesa Ylinen 14, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13 - 1989- 1. Juha Moksunen 14, 2. Olli Tyrvainen 13, 3. Kai Niemi 13 I was gonna start going through these but then the VERY first clip I opened said that my TOP3 from -57 was wrong on two place's... Sort of lost interest. But the way I compiled my list was from newspaper clips of the era so I thought it would be naturally right straightaway. I was on the phone yesterday and I should be getting more of them later this month, maybe I'll get in the mood again and spend a few days going through them just like that. Anyway, thank you for your help and I'll get back to this later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Last meeting on the calendar was ridden yesterday at Pori, final round of the Kaupunki Cup. I believe it's safe to say that Lahti II won this years Cup, but other than that it's impossible to say how the standings will finally take place. I still havent received the rider list for this league after I asked for it maybe ten days ago. We'll let that go, it doesn't stop me from doing the averages tomorrow morning... Kaupunki Cup 6/6 Pori, September 19th Lahti II 21 Joni Kitala 22N12 7 Aarni Heikkilä 33323 14 Lahti I 17 Kalle Kivistö 11130 6 Janne Nyman 23321 11 Haapajärvi 15 Niko Siltaniemi 33333 15 Juho Ruuska dNNNN 0 Pori 14 Jouni Viljanen 31232 11 Markku Larronmaa 10011 3 Kauhajoki 12 Teemu Mattila 12223 10 Jere Mattila 00101 2 Seinäjoki 11 Jarkko Palmi 22212 9 Reima Heikkilä 0110R 2 Erä erältä: 1. Viljanen, Palmi, Larronmaa, R.Heikkilä 67,46 2. Siltaniemi, Nyman, Kivistö, Ruuska d 65,76 3. Heikkilä, Kitala, Mattila, J.Mattila 65,82 4. Heikkilä, Kitala, Viljanen, Larronmaa 66,22 5. Siltaniemi, Palmi, R.Heikkilä 65,92 6. Nyman, Mattila, Kivistö, J.Mattila 67,61 7. Siltaniemi, Mattila, J.Mattila 65,99 8. Heikkilä, Palmi, R.Heikkilä 66,15 9. Nyman, Viljanen, Kivistö, Larronmaa 68,11 10. Kivistö, Nyman, Palmi, R.Heikkilä 68,29 11. Viljanen, Mattila, Larronmaa, J.Mattila 69,05 12. Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, Kitala 66,30 13. Heikkilä, Kitala, Nyman, Kivistö 67,66 14. Siltaniemi, Viljanen, Larronmaa 66,36 15. Mattila, Palmi, J.Mattila, R.Heikkilä R 70,31 Katsojia 96 Kaupunki Cup averages, at least 3 matches done: Rider......................M...H...P...1st...2nd...3rd...4th...d...avg Niko Siltaniemi........3...15...44......14...1...0...0...0...11,73 Aarni Heikkilä..........5...23...55......14...6...1...2...0...9,57 Janne Nyman...........3...15...35......8...4...3...0...0...9,33 Teemu Mattila..........4...18...37......6...8...3...0...1...8,22 Joni Kitala................5...22...43......7...9...4...0...2...7,82 Kalle Kivistö.............6...30...55......9...11...6...2...2...7,33 Jouni Viljanen...........5...24...44......5...11...7...0...1...7,33 Juho Ruuska.............4...16...22......2...5...6...1...2...5,50 Jarkko Palmi.............6...31...42......7...9...8...6...1...5,42 Jan Eric Korkeamäki..3...10...13......0...5...3...2...0...5,20 Jukka Nieminen.........5...25...24......2...4...10...8...1...3,84 Markku Larronmaa....4...20...14......1...1...9...8...1...2,80 Jere Mattila...............5...22...13......0...3...7...12...0...2,36 Reima Heikkilä..........6...24...13......0...2...9...12...1...2,17 Markku Autio............1....6...18.......6...0...0...0...0...12,00 Jari Mäkinen.............2....8...24.......8...0...0...0...0...12,00 Jani Eerikäinen.........1....5...11.......2...2...1...0...0...8,80 Petteri Koivunen.......2....10..22......2...4...3...1...0...8,80 Markku Weckman.....1.....5...9........1...2...2...0...0...7,20 Finnish season is now done. Edited September 21, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma23 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 What is final standings Kaupunki Cup ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) I found a few different information... 1961 - 1) Timo Laine 2) Antti Pajari 3) Ilkka Helminen confirmed 1963 - 1) Timo Laine 2) Kalevi Lahtinen 3) Matti Olin confirmed 1967 - 1) Matti Olin 2) Reima Lohkovuori 3) Veikko Metsähuone confirmed 1973 - 1) Matti Olin, 2) Ilkka Teromaa, confirmed 3) Reino Santala ??? 1974 - 1) Kari Vuoristo, 2) Matti Olin, 3) Veli-Pekka Teromaa confirmed 1978 - you have: 1) Kai Niemi PMK 2) Rauli Mäkinen, TaMK 3) Matti Koivuoja, PMK; I have: 1. Kai Niemi 12, 2. Rauli Mäkinen 12, 3. Martti Vayrynen 10 NEEDS FURTHER CHECKING 1985 - 1) Ari Koponen 2) Juha Moksunen 3) Roy Malminheimo confirmed 1965 final was listed in many papers at the time that 3rd place was given to both Heikki Kaprali and Esko Koponen. I think some of my lists have been saying Koponen because of that. Now I found a clip from "Forssan Lehti" dated August 1st 1965 that says a countback was used and Kaprali came third after (apparently) winning Koponen in heat 7. I believe it's Ilkka (not "Mikka") Helminen that came 3rd in the -61 final. Later died following a track crash at Haapajärvi. Will check that later today... EDIT: Indeed Ilkka Helminen was the other rider involded in a crash at Haapajärvi longtrack meeting July 12th 1964. Taisto Marttila (aged 18) and Helminen (26) tangled together and crashed. Marttila died at the local hospital during the day and Helminen two days later in a hospital at Oulu. This info from Lasse K Laitinens book (sold out). I also found a list of the Finnish medalists by Lasse K Laitinen (a source that I find 100% reliable), that says Väyrynen was third in -78. Will dig in to that later, I wonder where Koivuoja came in to the play... Crowd figures for Finnish finals 1955-1965 according to the local papers at the time: 1955: 2173 (5k capacity but there was only 2 persons at the gate and people got tired of waiting and left). 1956: 1500 1957: 5000, packed 1958: 3000, packed 1959: 2000 1960: 750, rain 1961: 1055 1962: 1503 1963: 1000 1964: 1500 1965: 1500 and 1967: 1000 What a nice way of spending a sunny autumn day... What is final standings Kaupunki Cup ? Nobody knows. and I'm not even lying. Edited September 23, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 (edited) Kaupunki Cup table 2009 Team..........M....+....... P Lahti II........6....121....44 Kauhajoki....6.....92.....29 Lahti I.........6.....90.....27 Haapajärvi...5....77.....26 Pori.............6....76.....19 Seinäjoki.....6.....74....19 I did it anyway, alltough had promised myself to wait for the official one. This includes one deducted point from Pori for appearing one rider short at Lahti and Haapajärvi getting a zero for not coming to a meeting at all. Also Haapajärvi had only one rider for the second Lahti meeting, so thats -1 point too. The problem that'll have to be solved, was that there's been riders riding in teams that they were not eligible for. An interpretion of the rules has been set, but that cannot be done throughout the whole series, because a list that would show the riders is not available. But I guess this is as good as it gets. The top 3 teams have ridden according to the rules, Seinäjoki has been the biggest mess in this. Edited September 24, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) There's currently a vote going on who is the Finnish U21 rider of the year. Jari Mäkinen was selected in 2007 and Appe Mustonen 2008. If you have an opinion, click to vote: HERE! Type your favourite on the upper and your real email to the lower box (to avoid spam). Then click the box that says "Äänestä" which means vote. The vote will close on October 31st 11.59 PM. Edited October 4, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 An official press release from the Finnish federation came out on October 5th that says that all Finnish meetings will be run with the Akrapovic silencers (FIM TRS 2010/05) for the next five years apart from Kaupunki Cup. KC can keep the current King's and Jawa's. They really have no idea whats going on and to think that one of the CCP members is Finnish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little-End Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 An official press release from the Finnish federation came out on October 5th that says that all Finnish meetings will be run with the Akrapovic silencers (FIM TRS 2010/05) for the next five years apart from Kaupunki Cup. KC can keep the current King's and Jawa's. They really have no idea whats going on and to think that one of the CCP members is Finnish! Surely they should be able to use the Prodrive as an alternative ?? Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) Surely they should be able to use the Prodrive as an alternative ?? Lucky Yet they published this said release the day before EVERYONE knew about Prodrive's homologation. A silencer that has been tested for months. Like I said, our federation even has people on board the FIM... It has to change of course, but how long will it take, 2 or 3 months perhaps. Hopefully the riders are more aware and will not be buying Akra's before the year is out. Edited October 7, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I found a few different information... - 1961- you have: 1) Timo Laine, TMK 2) Antti Pajari, TMK 3) Ilkka Helminen, SsMK; I have: 1. Timo Laine 15, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen 14, Mikka Helminen 13 - 1962- 1. Timo Laine 15, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen 14, 3. Esko Koponen 13 - 1963- 1. Timo Laine, 2. Kalevi Lahtinen, 3. Matti Olin - 1967- Tampere+Lahti: 1. Matti Olin 29+, 2. Reima Lohkovuori 29+, 3. Veikko Metsahvone 20 - 1969- 1. Kalevi Lahtinen, 2. Matti Olin, 3. Timo Laine - 1970- 1. Kalevi Lahtinen, 2. Matti Olin, 3. Jouko Naskali - 1972- 3 rounds in Salpausselan, Tamperee and... (2 best results counted!) 1. Matti Olin (8,8,-) 16, 2. Hannu Kankanen (4,6,8) 14, 3. Kalevi Lahtinen (6,0,6) 12, 4. Heikki Ahonen (1,3,4) 7, 5. Kari Vuoristo (3,2,0) 5, 6. Pekka Paljakka (0,4,0) 4, 7. Matti Touru (0,0,3) 3, 8. Tapio Leppasalko (2,1,0) 3, 9. Jouko Naskali (-,-,2) 2, 10. Timo Naskali (-,0,1) 1 - 1973- 1. Matti Olin 15, 2. Ilkka Teromaa 14, 3. Reino Santala 12 - 1974- 1. Kari Vuoristo 15, 2. Matti Olin 14, 3. Veli Pekka Teromaa 13 - 1978- you have: 1) Kai Niemi PMK 2) Rauli Mäkinen, TaMK 3) Matti Koivuoja, PMK; I have: 1. Kai Niemi 12, 2. Rauli Mäkinen 12, 3. Martti Vayrynen 10 - 1980- 1. Kai Niemi 15, 2. Ari Koponen 14, Veijo Tuoriniemi 12 - 1985- you have: 1) Ari Koponen, SsMK 2) Juha Moksunen, TaMK 3) Olli Tyrväinen, VarkMPU; I have: 1. Ari Koponen 14, 2. Juha Moksunen 13, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13, 4. Olli Tyrväinen 13 - 1986- 1. Juha Moksunen 15, 2. Ari Koponen 14, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13 - 1987- 1. Ari Koponen 15, 2. Vesa Ylinen 14, 3. Roy Malminheimo 13 - 1989- 1. Juha Moksunen 14, 2. Olli Tyrvainen 13, 3. Kai Niemi 13 Martti Väyrynen, PMK confirmed for bronze in 1978. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Good debut for Kalle Katajisto last night, Kalle had 4 rides finishing with a win in Heat 14. Looks much improved from 2007 and even gated and didnt look out of place in some hard first bends with Joonas kylmakorpi helping him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 It was a great return for Kalle last night Fingers crossed he is one of the reserves next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) Good debut for Kalle Katajisto last night, Kalle had 4 rides finishing with a win in Heat 14. Looks much improved from 2007 and even gated and didnt look out of place in some hard first bends with Joonas kylmakorpi helping him out. I think this was a good move in this point of the season. He's done all the possible training camps and meetings in Finland and what was availabe on the international calendar + Sweden as much as it was allowed in the end . Season here was over so to come over and do seven (i heard that said) meetings more in the UK is a good step. And he's good enough now to actually score some points and make money even, not just spend it. Not really sure about Kylmo's role in this, still hopefully Kalle manage's to get all the info available off from him. He was there for this one, I've heard nothing (not asked either) about the future... It was a great return for Kalle last night Fingers crossed he is one of the reserves next season. They might go numb... No need for that to happen! Edited October 17, 2009 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Not really sure about Kylmo's role in this, ..... Joonas drove Kalle up and loaned him a frame for the meeting. He was a good guy to have in the pits as he knows his way around our track quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Joonas drove Kalle up and loaned him a frame for the meeting. He was a good guy to have in the pits as he knows his way around our track quite well. Of course he is. I knew he would be there, but like I said, for this one. The behind the scenes story that I have is a bit different than yours, but who cares as long as Kalle does well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) The behind the scenes story that I have is a bit different than yours.... Ah well, just going on what Kalle said last night. Edited October 17, 2009 by Midnight_Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Wow, didnt see Kalle's score coming tonight at KL. Paid ten, i can hear fsp cheer now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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