Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 I think Jack Hirst and Tom Woolley are too old now Talking of Tom, he's aleready three times a national champ at Under 15s level in any case: twice winner of the STUK Youth title and inaugural ACU British Junior Short Track champ too...!! Here's a brief hot-off-the-presses news release from STUK re. Tom's plans for 2009: 2007 & '08 Junior Champion Tom Woolley, has been confirmed as a CCM factory team rider in 2009 and is expected to be part of a three man team with three-times STUK champion Marco Belli and Richard May in the Pozzani Silkolene Short Track UK Championships. Tom who was honoured at the annual ACU Awards night in Northampton last month is over the moon at joining up with the CCM Team. The Burton-based youngster, who's ridden Speedway at his home county track of Buxton said, "I would like to thank every one at CCM for giving me this opportunity. CCM invested in the youth classes which has helped me to get to this stage in my racing, I hope to repay them even more now by winning as many races as I can". I reckon young Tom has an outstanding future ahead of him and his route so far is proof there's more than one way to the top. I wonder if the Hitmen have him in their plans at all for 2009..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudding Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 if i was a betting man my money would be on klye howarth , if any of you guys haven't seen him ride yet your in for a treat , he's a true racer who never give's up ive had the pleasure following his very short ( so far ) speedway career , i think this lad will go far i hope he does to because he's a cracking lad who is always happy & polite ,,, his dads ok too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganbike Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) Parsloes I have read your posts over the last 8 months and as you are a newbie in the area of youth speedway the majority of posts are acurate and good. However this is the second time you have incorrectly posted and falsley stated as to why Bren missed out on the title. What I suggest you do is examine all the 07 rounds and results for the under 15's and hopefully you will realise that what you have stated is not true. There were 2 qualifying rounds and a final round. The best score from the 2 qualifying rounds was added to the score from the final round. Bren already had a 1st ie 17 points from weymouth and James had a 1st at Northside so how could not going to northside have made it any worse for him. These were the two favourites for the championship on that cold october night at Oxford for the final where as you correctly put Bren had been riding since June with Trump at Oxford. Closer rivals were Dan and Rich who took 15 points to the final. The objective for these 4 riders was to make the Grand Final ie max the points in the 20 heats as the top scorer got 1st gate pick and the inside is where they all wanted to be.Bren got last pick on 12 points so had no gate choice. He missed out on the title Not because he was riding conference for Oxford, Not because he didn't do all the rounds but he simply did not ride well enough to stamp his authority on the meeting and max the points for the gate pick in the final. Don't accuse me of being a Bren hater quite the opposite in fact but the results and heats are there plain to see so get them correct please. This is a time of free speach and all that crap which I am all for but to be honest some of you posters really do pile on the crap and we parents wonder why the hell we bother doing 30,000 miles a year, spend all our money on bikes and diesel to be told your son only won the under 15's title because of this utter rubbish posted by you. had the U15 title 'nailed on' if he'd been able to ride in enough/all rounds was Brendan Johnson.. Once Bren got in a CL team (Oxford) he did miss U-15 rounds and as a result missed out on the title How many times has Garrity 08 Champ been mentioned on this forum since he won the title ????. Edited February 11, 2009 by morganbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Many apologies for my mistake about the 2007 series, I accept that I was completely incorrect... I do think - as I'm sure you do too... - that it was a shame that the '07 series hadn't been the more multi-round series that we'd seen in the previous couple of years; and, because I'd become friendly with Bren and his father, I was of course backing him to win it. But clearly Dan's victory wasn't just fully deserved, it was quite remarkable because that all-important final round was actually at Bren's (by then...) home league track of Oxford... I saw Jason win the U-15 500cc title up at Hi Edge with as impressive a performance by a young (indeed any...) rider in fairly shocking conditions as one could ever see (indeed it was a truly remarkable and massively memorable performance ); and I for one have him marked down without doubt as a star of the future. As of course I do, Marc Owen who is quite outstanding.. And add to that list your Dan - who I saw ride a lot, particularly at Rye House, last year. I'm sure ALL of us on here sincerely hope young Dan returns to racing and please don't think that I or anyone else in any way demeans or belittles or underestimates the incredible financial and other efforts put in my youngsters like Dan and their parents in pursuing a Speedway career. As I say, my unreserved apologies for a thoughtless remark and I wish you and your family all the very best. Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
771neil Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Oh how i ve missed morganbike and his posts on here, I would like to say that this whole tread is speculation as no riders have had invite letters or anything yet but it does sound like it ll be a good series and i know there s at least 4-6 lads capable of winning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Willie Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ha Ha that told you Parsloes me old mucker!! You should have a read of the last post on this thread and read the thoughts of the riders involved. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=45267 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy james Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ha Ha that told you Parsloes me old mucker!! You should have a read of the last post on this thread and read the thoughts of the riders involved. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=45267 Silly Old Duffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ha Ha that told you Parsloes me old mucker!! You should have a read of the last post on this thread and read the thoughts of the riders involved. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=45267 WW - I love to see old Parsloes put his foot right in it. Daniel Greenwood was a hugely deserving winner of the 2007 British Under 15 championship. And both James and Brendan were very magnanimous in defeat when I interviewed them that night. A sad footnote is that this meeting is currently the last to have been held at Oxford. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganbike Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) All these big words ! I had to google them to get an understanding. Parsloes an apology was not needed although much appreciated. Edited February 12, 2009 by morganbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 WW - I love to see old Parsloes put his foot right in it. And I love (NOT) to see you revert to your oh-so predictable school playground bullying ways... Why, WW makes an inane comment, so good old Rob steams in to join in...!! Did I fact that I had already apologised mean zilch to you..? The debate had actually been about how good it was that the '09 championship will return to being a multi-round one. The main point about '07 was that it hadn't been.. I fully appreciate Dan's family would be a bit aggrieved at any comments about that championship, as their lad clearly won that title on merit over the two rounds and then final double-points round of that year. Being a father myself (something you Rob wouldn't know about...) I can feel for morganbike's pride in that great achievement AND his frustration about the barriers since (especially financial ones) which have suppressed Dan's development. It really can't be good for the sport for our national champ at Under 15 level of '07 not to be going to the tapes in '09 so I'm sure we all hope that that situation changes for the better one day soon... Ah, except you don't of course, Rob: you just want to make a few cheap and frankly pathetic jibes!! BTW, is it worth trawling through the BSF archives to find any occasions when, Rob, you've apologised (for example, over disgraceful slurs you've made in the past and repeated often about a very respected rider..)? : er, no I didn't think it would be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) as their lad clearly won that title on merit over the two rounds and then final double-points round of that year. And you still haven't got it right. In 2007, there were three rounds - at Weymouth, Northside and Oxford. The riders best round score from either Weymouth OR Northside PLUS their points from Oxford (NOT double points) made up their final score. The top three were: Daniel Greenwood 15 + 17 = 32 (after run-off) James Sarjaent 17+ 15 = 32 Brendan Johnson 17 +14 = 31 Got it now? And I'm glad that you have now come around to everyone else's way of thinking, that Daniel Greenwood was a most worthy winner of the 2007 British Under-15 Championship. I really hope he is able to compete in the National League in 2009. It was a pity you didn't check the facts before your initial post. All the best Rob Edited February 12, 2009 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATHAN Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 hi ,also nathan stoneman will be in the 250cc class again this year as only 12. thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I have got a bit confused with all the posts here Can someone just state the dates & venues for this years competition ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 I have got a bit confused with all the posts here Can someone just state the dates & venues for this years competition ? Can’t say I blame you for being confused HT… To date no posting here has actually given the full picture.. Neither does this one.. ; but my understanding is that there are to be six or seven rounds as follows: 2 May Scunthorpe 23 May Newport 13 June Weymouth 25 July Buxton 22 August Northside (??) 19 September Stoke (??) Round Seven(or rather an additional round meaning they'll be seven in total..) may happen at a track currently not open but due – hopefully – to be opening very soon…!!! BTW, I stand to be corrected (just for a change... ) on any of the above!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Round Seven(or rather an additional round meaning they'll be seven in total..) may happen at a track currently not open but due – hopefully – to be opening very soon…!!! BTW, I stand to be corrected (just for a change... ) on any of the above!!!! Indeed sadly I DO have to stand corrected..: as have tonite been informed that sadly, after great hopes, that the track which WAS to have returned to competitive (and training..) action is now to be tarmaced and turned into a car park... Been a winter of very bad news and now this latest blow. . Full details will be in the Star next week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Indeed sadly I DO have to stand corrected..: as have tonite been informed that sadly, after great hopes, that the track which WAS to have returned to competitive (and training..) action is now to be tarmaced and turned into a car park... Been a winter of very bad news and now this latest blow. . Full details will be in the Star next week... Not good news Derek Maybe Mildenhall could step in and offer a round of this Championship, maybe a word hey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
771neil Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Well only a month to the first round and not one rider has been asked if he wants to do the rounds, but its the bspa so don t know why i expected any different. I am struggling to see who is eligable to ride and I know that some of the ones that are able to ride have booked to ride elsewhere on may 2nd when scunny round is on. Do the bspa treat the u21 or the main title like this answer NO, do they think lads just hang round waiting for them to call answer. Just because there under 15 doesn t mean they don t fill there diary s with as many meeting as possible. Hope bspa sort it soon or they might struggle for riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules m Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Well only a month to the first round and not one rider has been asked if he wants to do the rounds, but its the bspa so don t know why i expected any different. I am struggling to see who is eligable to ride and I know that some of the ones that are able to ride have booked to ride elsewhere on may 2nd when scunny round is on. Do the bspa treat the u21 or the main title like this answer NO, do they think lads just hang round waiting for them to call answer. Just because there under 15 doesn t mean they don t fill there diary s with as many meeting as possible. Hope bspa sort it soon or they might struggle for riders. What a shame it doesn't seem to be organised any better than previous years Personally I would have been phoning round eligible riders as soon as the dates were confirmed. Always one of my favourite meetings at Weymouth I just hope we have enough riders to make it competitive! If some of the lads who have been at our training schools are anything to go by there should be some fantastic racing as they were really getting to grips with the circuit, fingers crossed someone in charge pulls their finger out pdq. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudding Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 this should be a awesome competion ,, with the scunny young guns aka kyle , james & ashley ,, and the other wanna be's , i for one are looking forward to watching these young guns ripping it up ,, all the best to the scunny lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 this should be a awesome competion ,, with the scunny young guns aka kyle , james & ashley ,, and the other wanna be's , i for one are looking forward to watching these young guns ripping it up ,, all the best to the scunny lads Hmm, I could be wrong (it has been known... ) but am not sure that James Sarjeant still qualifies for the U-15s championship does he..?? Surely any riders able to take their place in a NL side at season's-start must by definition be too old for the U-15s..?? Which would suggest that Kyle's in the same boat.. I suggested a few months back that it would make better sense to change to an Under 16s championship giving better chances to youngsters to get a NL team berth and still give their all to the national junior championship (rather than the conflict that can confuse or divide...) but - quelle surprise! - I don't think one single person commented on that idea..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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