Sandie Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 For some people travelling to and from Poland this season these details, taken from an aviators forum, may be of use: The routes involved are: to Gdansk (2 out of 7) - from Bristol - from Liverpool to Katowice (1 out of 6) - from Bristol to Lodz (3 out of 5) - from Liverpool - from Shannon (still in talks) - from EMA to Poznan (1 out of 8) - from EMA to Szczecin (4 out of 6) - from Bristol - from Birmingham - from Liverpool - from Luton to Wroclaw (1 out of 15) - from Bournemouth. No reductions in Krakow, Rzeszow - Jasionka, Bydgoszcz. Probably the only one to worry about is the Poznan from East Mids. But nothing confirmed yet but worth keeping an eye on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IW08 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) no surprises really --- given the fact it was the news on BBC business report this morning that Ryanair have lost £90m in the 3 months to December 08! Edited February 2, 2009 by chris26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 ryan air announced in june that if the economic downfall happened and the rise in oil prices continued to increase that the company would only just manage to break easy. not looking good seen as they are the largest budget airline in europe with easy-jet coming in just behind no i am not a geek on airline facts i just had to study them for 2 months for a exam to be honest i think that the cuts are the sensible way ahead looking at the life of air travel. so far 14 airlines have fell victim and went into liquidation in 2008 and more are expected in 2009. although this has happened good news for us open skies policies means that there could be some cheep flights after the depression to fly over to america for cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Aye, they've also cut the Wroclaw to Liverpool flight that used to fly each sunday evening at 9.30pm getting back into Liverpool for about 11.00pm. Used it twice last yr after the Bydgoszcz Gp's & was hoping to use it after Leszno this time. Its about a 6 hr train journey from Bydgoszcz to Wroclaw which was a good laugh but still a long way so thought the Leszno trip was all set up nicely this year. Go there for the GP on the sat nite & then Wroclaw r at home to Torun the day after so we had planned to take in this meeting & then it'd be a short taxi ride across Town for the evening flight home instead of the usual 6 hr train journey but sadly not to be!! Bloody Ryanair, i've fallen out with em now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 dont turn to jet2 tho as there economic state supposibly aint good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 to be honest i think that the cuts are the sensible way ahead looking at the life of air travel. so far 14 airlines have fell victim and went into liquidation in 2008 and more are expected in 2009. It was inevitable as there was far too much capacity until recently. Ryanair might also want to ask whether they're just a bit too cheap, as if it were a choice between them and EasyJet, I know who I'd choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 yes easyjet may cost more than ryan air but that is because of the services that they offer you have to pay for each individual one and they do there pricing with yield management where ryan air like monach airlines and bmi that are also in the 10 ten offer some frills for free. easyjet are also coving costs for the planned developments of the airbus to make them eco friendly which will be made with 2 open rotory rolls royce engines that will cut co2 emmitions by 50% and nitros oxies by 80% to come into service by 2015, EJ also buy their fuel 12 month in advanvce so they are actually making a wack are easyjet but then again stelos is worth a fortune with the easybrand that leads into cruses, money, pizza, vans (workington should team up and give them all orange vans), offices,mobile etc so money can be moved to help cater each. stellos is also know to fight off competitors by putting his staff in thete uniforms on other flights offering free flights to customers on the flight. like he did to BA's GO airline which he later bought in 1998 which lead to a major court case after ba had tried to by easyjet. ryan air are that little bit cheaper as they like to share the cost of the flight to everyone and not just the cheap price to the first few customers like ej do. there are alot of hidden thing with easy jet so for me i would br flying ryan air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 yes easyjet may cost more than ryan air but that is because of the services that they offer you have to pay for each individual one and they do there pricing with yield management where ryan air like monach airlines and bmi that are also in the 10 ten offer some frills for free. easyjet are also coving costs for the planned developments of the airbus to make them eco friendly which will be made with 2 open rotory rolls royce engines that will cut co2 emmitions by 50% and nitros oxies by 80% to come into service by 2015, EJ also buy their fuel 12 month in advanvce so they are actually making a wack are easyjet but then again stelos is worth a fortune with the easybrand that leads into cruses, money, pizza, vans (workington should team up and give them all orange vans), offices,mobile etc so money can be moved to help cater each. stellos is also know to fight off competitors by putting his staff in thete uniforms on other flights offering free flights to customers on the flight. like he did to BA's GO airline which he later bought in 1998 which lead to a major court case after ba had tried to by easyjet. ryan air are that little bit cheaper as they like to share the cost of the flight to everyone and not just the cheap price to the first few customers like ej do. there are alot of hidden thing with easy jet so for me i would br flying ryan air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 there are alot of hidden thing with easy jet so for me i would br flying ryan air There are lots of hidden things with Ryanair as well, like charging for checking in which I consider a pretty basic service. Yes, EasyJet is generally a bit more expensive, but they fly to major airports and their customer service isn't cut price either (at least in my experience). And by the time you've factored in the time and cost of getting from whichever remote landing strip Ryanair have left you, you're unlikely to have saved anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Maybe won't affect fans, but these cut backs will definetly affect a few of the riders who are travel around Europe every single day off the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Maybe won't affect fans, but these cut backs will definetly affect a few of the riders who are travel around Europe every single day off the week. definately. Be interesting to see how many - 'I missed my flight' there will be now, based on the fact they may have to travel further and at awkward times. Hope no one is too badly affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IW08 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Maybe won't affect fans, but these cut backs will definetly affect a few of the riders who are travel around Europe every single day off the week. definately. Be interesting to see how many - 'I missed my flight' there will be now, based on the fact they may have to travel further and at awkward times. Hope no one is too badly affected. definitely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 There are lots of hidden things with Ryanair as well, like charging for checking in which I consider a pretty basic service. Yes, EasyJet is generally a bit more expensive, but they fly to major airports and their customer service isn't cut price either (at least in my experience). And by the time you've factored in the time and cost of getting from whichever remote landing strip Ryanair have left you, you're unlikely to have saved anything. the level of customer service is low tho. ryan air are known to provide a much friendlier service. easy jet now charge as well. ej passall cost incurred on to the customer so that there profit is untouched. they joined a gds and they caiused hell cause they put there prices up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 ryan air are known to provide a much friendlier service. Not in my experience, I'm afraid. Ryanair seem to employ the most dimwitted people imaginable. ej passall cost incurred on to the customer Ermm.. what (non loss making) airline doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 RA are rubbish at everything, except the prices. The weather can be beautiful, all flights of other airlines can be on time but for some unknown reasons RA must be always delayed, from 15 mins to 2 hours.. or more. And that circus music played on their planes I choose them only because of the financial aspect, just like the public transport, national mail, national railways etc.. - all the same cr@p and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 RA are rubbish at everything, except the prices. The weather can be beautiful, all flights of other airlines can be on time but for some unknown reasons RA must be always delayed, from 15 mins to 2 hours.. or more. And that circus music played on their planes I choose them only because of the financial aspect, just like the public transport, national mail, national railways etc.. - all the same cr@p and ignorance. how virgin is in profit i will never know they never ask you for a ticket. ryan air dont have a max turn around of 20 mins at airports like easyjet. easyjet woill take nothing into concideration if you are late you are late even if it is a connection flights fault and the aircraft is sat on the terminal and the terminal is still open they will not let you on weather u be 5 mins late or even a minuite did nobody watch airline. also easy jet do not explain all terms and conditions to you that could mean that you hav to pay more if you have children without your own car seat to stap the child into the airplain seat yet they can sit on your knee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 how virgin is in profit i will never know they never ask you for a ticket. ryan air dont have a max turn around of 20 mins at airports like easyjet. easyjet woill take nothing into concideration if you are late you are late even if it is a connection flights fault and the aircraft is sat on the terminal and the terminal is still open they will not let you on weather u be 5 mins late or even a minuite did nobody watch airline. also easy jet do not explain all terms and conditions to you that could mean that you hav to pay more if you have children without your own car seat to stap the child into the airplain seat yet they can sit on your knee Ive seen a simular sort of video for an an exam I did, but on Ryan Air. Easy Jet, from my own experience are far more reliable, with more leg room and customer care than RA. RA DO have a 20 minute turn around for getting planes back in the air, well they sure did in the video I watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 easyjet woill take nothing into concideration if you are late you are late even if it is a connection flights fault and the aircraft is sat on the terminal and the terminal is still open they will not let you on weather u be 5 mins late or even a minuite I don't have a massive problem with that. People need to allow more time to get to the airport, and take into account there might be delays. There's nothing more frustrating than being held up on a plane waiting for other passengers after you've managed to get there in good time. did nobody watch airline. also easy jet do not explain all terms and conditions to you that could mean that you hav to pay more if you have children without your own car seat to stap the child into the airplain seat yet they can sit on your knee People should read the terms and conditions as it's all explained. I thought Airline showed EasyJet in an unfairly negative light, as I've used them many times, and never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I don't have a massive problem with that. People need to allow more time to get to the airport, and take into account there might be delays. There's nothing more frustrating than being held up on a plane waiting for other passengers after you've managed to get there in good time. People should read the terms and conditions as it's all explained. I thought Airline showed EasyJet in an unfairly negative light, as I've used them many times, and never had a problem. when u have spend 2 month revising them tho and watching videos and looking deep into the company they wernt at the end of the day all budget airlines are the same ur on there plain and there is sod all you can do about it when ur on it and well people go back cause tey are cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 When it comes to flying to poland, it's got to be wizzair for me. Even the seats are fairly comfy, and when there's a problem, you can actually email customer services, and not only do they reply, they will also give compensation when it's warranted. I've booked 4 flights with them this summer, all under £60 return. Sadly i've still got to use ryanair for the swedish and german trips, but at those prices i'd be a mug not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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