Jeff. Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 43 Rickard Hellsen & Roger Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Steve Hone...... no 9 is Penhall inside Carter. Yes. no 15 looks like Kelly Moran leading Carter Yes. no 5 is the same crash as 43 at Wimbledon. Never even noticed that! :? Not got the riders though have you? 21 is possibly Mike Lee, Jan Andersson, Penhall, Gundersen Yes. 24 is Nielsen in front, possibly Morton and Jancarz behind First two correct, but it's not Jancarz. 23...Muller, Gundersen, Crump, Stancl Muller, Gundersen correct, but it's not Crump and Stancl. Â Falcace... 16 - Crump, K Moran, Nielsen, V Verner Yes. 10 - K Moran, P Collins. Yes. Well done Falcace. Â Jeff.... 43 Rickard Hellsen & Roger Johns. No. Don't think anyone will get this. Â WATigerman.... Speedway no. 50 - Les Collins. Yes. Speedway no. 12 - Bruce Penhall leads Dave Jessup Yes. Speedway no. 13 - Dave Jessup/Les Collins Les Collins. I haven't got the name of the Kings Lynn rider. Did Jessup ride for Lynn or is that a stupid question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Speedway no. 13 - Dave Jessup/Les Collins Les Collins. I haven't got the name of the Kings Lynn rider. Did Jessup ride for Lynn or is that a stupid question? Â Gemini.... Correct :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 23 - Muller, Gundersen, Ross, Jancarz? 43 - Graeme Stapleton (fairly sure), David Gagen (stab in the dark)  50 - Les Collins at PC Testimonial 1980 (how nerdy is that? :roll: )  44 - Benny O'Rourke?  46 - Wayne Jackson, Steve McDermott?, John Barker  What about this lot Gem? I'm enjoying this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Some more:  22 - Knudsen, Andersson 25 - Olsen, Penhall (classic race) 26 - Knudsen, Lee, Muller 27 - Knudsen, Penhall (double classic race) 47 - Mike Lee, Martin Ashby  :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 One of 43 is, I think, Barry Crowson and Graeme Stapleton. Â No 42 - the words Dave & Gooderham come to mind and won't go away. Â No 46 - Mike Fullerton, Les Rumsey & John Barker (I cheated on that one - it's in Mike Patrick's Superstars of Speedway) Â 52 - Paul Tyrer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 falcace... 23 - Muller, Gundersen, Ross, Jancarz? Correct, but not Jancarz. Â 43 - Graeme Stapleton (fairly sure), David Gagen (stab in the dark) No! Â 50 - Les Collins at PC Testimonial 1980 (how nerdy is that? :roll: ) Yes. Â 44 - Benny O'Rourke? Yes. How did you get that?! Â 46 - Wayne Jackson, Steve McDermott?, John Barker All I've got is the rider crashing and that's John Barker so you're correct. Looks like grachan has got it right though ( with a bit of cheating!) Les Rumsey and Mike Fullerton are the other riders. 22 - Knudsen, Andersson Yes. 25 - Olsen, Penhall (classic race) Yes. 27 - Knudsen, Lee, Muller Yes. 26 - Knudsen, Penhall (double classic race) Yes. 47 - Mike Lee, Martin Ashby No. Â Â Grachan One of 43 is, I think, Barry Crowson and Graeme Stapleton. Barry Crowson is right but not Graeme Stapleton. Â No 42 - the words Dave & Gooderham come to mind and won't go away. Try harder to make them go away 'cos it's not right. Â No 46 - Mike Fullerton, Les Rumsey & John Barker (I cheated on that one - it's in Mike Patrick's Superstars of Speedway) Naughty!! Anyway, you've done me a favour because I'd only got John Barker on the back of the photo. Â 52 - Paul Tyrer? Is that a trick question? I thought I'd only gone up to 51. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Gemini :!: Â Do you know the answers to Guess 2 & 3 :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Sorry, but the first four photos have nothing on the back so I don't know who they are. I am hoping someone will be able to tell me. The majority of the other ones are named but I am letting people have a guess. It's keeping some of them happy anyway and I am learning a thing or two, like Dave Jessup riding for Kings Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Sorry, but the first four photos have nothing on the back so I don't know who they are ! Â Nice one Gemini :!: :evil: lets hope someone knows an old Russian then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Igor Plechanov? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Â 52 - Paul Tyrer? Is that a trick question? I thought I'd only gone up to 51. Â Whoops - should have been 50. But it's wrong anyway I see. Â I'm clearing out loads of junk at the moment, so old speedway books are turning up all over the place. Ooh look, I've just found Mike Patrick's Speedway Scene from 1976 and can now exclusively reveal that.... Â No 42 is Roy Carter (no 4) and Bob Cooper. Â No 43 is Neil Cameron and Barry Crowson. Â The book has a whole series of crash pictures, plus a piece on how he took a fantastic crash sequence only to discover there was no film in the camera. The rider involved? Dave Gooderham, no less. I knew he was in there somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 falcace...23 - Muller' date=' Gundersen, Ross, Jancarz? Correct, but not Jancarz. Â 44 - Benny O'Rourke? Yes. How did you get that?! Â 47 - Mike Lee, Martin Ashby No. Â Are you sure that's not Ed Jancarz? If not, maybe it was a chap called Henryk Olszak (or something like that) - he was reserve at the 81 final. Â As for Benny O'Rourke - I've seen this photo somewhere else, can't remeber where though. But its lodged in my brain somewhere, determinedly taking the place of something far more important. Â 47 - I'll stick with Mike Lee and say the chasing Racer is Bernie Leigh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 47 is already identified.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Sorry, my mistake.  I meant 37 and I'll go with my original guess of Mike Lee and Martin Ashby  Also on second glance I think I've nailed 23:  Muller, Gundersen, Ross, Dryml? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Falcace.... No 37.... I'll go with my original guess of Mike Lee and Martin Ashby. All I have is Michael Lee so I'll presume Ashby is right. Also on second glance I think I've nailed 23: Muller, Gundersen, Ross, Dryml? Yes, all four correct.  grachan.... No 42 is Roy Carter (no 4) and Bob Cooper. Yes. No 43 is Neil Cameron and Barry Crowson. Yes. You shouldn't be so honest grachan about your little bit of cheating! I would have been really impressed with you getting Neil Cameron and Barry Crowson.  Steve Hone  Speedway no. 13 - Dave Jessup/Les Collins. I haven't got the name of the Kings Lynn rider. Did Jessup ride for Lynn or is that a stupid question? Gemini.... Correct  I like it Steve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Hmmm, not sure, but, looking at the leathers, riding style and the manner of the accident, I think number 43 shows Neil Cameron and Barry Crowson. As a rough guess I'd say it was from about 1976. Â As for number 42 - I seem to remember Roy Carter wearing very similar leathers to that. It looks to me like the crash he had with Bob Cooper at Rye House, also around 76. Â Is that better, Gem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Time to get up to date I think. Pictures identified:- Â 5..Grachan 6..Grachan 7..Falcace 8..WATigerman 9..Grachan 10 ..Falcace 11..Grachan 12..WATigerman 13..WATigerman 15..Steve Hone 16..Falcace 17..WATigerman 18..Steve Hone 19..Steve Hone 20..Grachan 21..Steve Hone 22..Falcace 23..Falcace 24..Steve Hone 25..Falcace 26..Falcace 27..Falcace 28..Named 29..Named 30..Gemini :?: 31..Named 32..Named 33..Named 34..Named 35..Grachan 36..Named 37..Falcace 38..Grachan 39..Frigbo & WATigerman 40..Grachan 41..Steve Hone 42..Grachan 43..Grachan 44..Falcace 45..WATigerman 46..Grachan 47..Steve Hone 48..Steve Hone 49..Jeff 50..Falcace 51..Steve Hone ===================Well done everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Number 6 - that's definitely Carl Askew going down on the inside. I remember the moustache on the crash helmet.  7 - Kenny Carter, Mike Lee, Egon Muller  9 - Penhall, Carter  11. Bruce Penall (Cradley Heath) and George Best (Belle Vue)  14 - Barry Briggs? (He used to wear those boots anyway!)  17 - Sigalos & Morton  24 - Hans Neilsen, Chris Morton, Jiri Stancl  30 - You've already got that one. Ha ha - revenge for number 52! Peter Collins & Doug Wyer.  35 - Sportak on the back & stars on the arms. Got to be John Davis.  38 - Looks like Briggo's crash helmet so I'll say it's him. Don't think it is though!  39 - Grasping at strws here! Is that a White City race jacket? Looks like number 6 on the back? Er..... Trevor Geer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Number 6 - that's definitely Carl Askew going down on the inside. I remember the moustache on the crash helmet. Correct and as that's the only rider named I'll let you have that. 7 - Kenny Carter, Mike Lee, Egon Muller? Carter, Muller. Need the rider in Yellow/Black. 9 - Penhall, Carter? Yes. 11. Bruce Penall (Cradley Heath) and George Best (Belle Vue) Yes. One of Belle Vue's best ever signings. 14 - Barry Briggs? (He used to wear those boots anyway!) No. Perhaps he bought Barry's old cast-offs. 17 - Sigalos & Morton? No. 24 - Hans Neilsen, Chris Morton, Jiri Stancl Not Stancl 30 - You've already got that one. Ha ha - revenge for number 52! Peter Collins & Doug Wyer. Ooops! It's hard work this you know! 35 - Sportak on the back & stars on the arms. Got to be John Davis. Yes. 38 - Looks like Briggo's crash helmet so I'll say it's him. Don't think it is though! Oh yea of little faith! Yes, it's Briggo. Strange how he uses his left hand, but I presume that's the one with the missing thumb? 39 - Grasping at strws here! Is that a White City race jacket? Looks like number 6 on the back? Er..... Trevor Geer. No. I don't think anyone will get this, especially the rider on the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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