BWitcher Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 The place will be packed given the three local teams he rode for, so I'm not worried. MrBrum is in the minority of Wolves fans when it comes to Billy. Even when we signed him and before a wheel was turned I think 90% of the fans were happy in a Wolfcry survey. Stevebrum was the 1st to carp in 2007 when Billy had a bad night as the career inguries took their toll. That said you can't suggest he's not a real Wolves fan just because his preference does not include this rider, he's there most weeks and often providing text for Wolfcry or the main updates site. I'm sure in a meeting like this his attendence is dependent on the line up, as his loyalties are not with the rider, but the huge influx of Cradley. Coventry and speedway fans in general means that the place will be packed regardless. I don't really question him being a real fan. He is a real Wolves fan no question. He just sometimes fails to see the hypocresy of his arguments towards those criticising Howe. Your idea of getting some of the older boys involved in meaningful races sounds fantastic Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Your idea of getting some of the older boys involved in meaningful races sounds fantastic Steve. I agree with that, we've all seen them had dodgy fiddled races, lets see them show they can still do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Just a lil off the main subject, but I have often wondered why there is not a 'senior tour' in speedway, like in golf. A rider who retires is often hanging it up either because they dont want the rigors of a full season or they are not signed by a team (Les & Neil Collins, Paul Thorp). Maybe a 12 round touring GP-esque series would go down well with fans? Take in UK and Europe, I'm sure it would be very popular. Because of the small sized tracks riders in American race to much older agaes, and whilst over 40 or 50 riders may not be competitive in European leagues, I am sure they could put on a show against each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Steve - To be fair to the UK fans you should really add Belle Vue and Oxford to your signature if you're going to name clubs. Billy was very popular in his short time at those clubs too. I understand the Midlands bias, of course, but it sounds a bit exclusive. Your idea of an OAPs SGP is fantastic by the way. I saw Big Al race Andy at B'ham recently. He was clearly the better and had to work hard to throw a race. It would be great to see him go flat out against Phil Collins, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Steve - To be fair to the UK fans you should really add Belle Vue and Oxford to your signature if you're going to name clubs. Billy was very popular in his short time at those clubs too. I understand the Midlands bias, of course, but it sounds a bit exclusive. Your idea of an OAPs SGP is fantastic by the way. I saw Big Al race Andy at B'ham recently. He was clearly the better and had to work hard to throw a race. It would be great to see him go flat out against Phil Collins, for example. I agree 21CH. Anyone at Wolves 80th last year would have seen that Sam and Ronnie can still race at a good pace. Barry Briggs used to run such meetings some years ago, late 80's, early 90's I think. Golden Greats meetings. I didn't actually attend one so not sure how competitive they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Just a lil off the main subject, but I have often wondered why there is not a 'senior tour' in speedway, like in golf. A rider who retires is often hanging it up either because they dont want the rigors of a full season or they are not signed by a team (Les & Neil Collins, Paul Thorp). Maybe a 12 round touring GP-esque series would go down well with fans? Take in UK and Europe, I'm sure it would be very popular. Because of the small sized tracks riders in American race to much older agaes, and whilst over 40 or 50 riders may not be competitive in European leagues, I am sure they could put on a show against each other. An unnoficial Golden Greats mini GP. Great idea Steve, and would love to see it run prior to GP's on a Friday night with riders like Trick, Billy, 'Mando Castagna, Bo Brehl etc and Andy Smith who'd qualify via the Golden Greats challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Steve - To be fair to the UK fans you should really add Belle Vue and Oxford to your signature if you're going to name clubs. Billy was very popular in his short time at those clubs too. Happy to oblige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMGracing Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Just curious.Does Billy still hold the track record at Stoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) No, sadly, Lee Complin (I think) broke it recently. It did stand for a decade though. *edit* Cheers Steve. Although Cradley should clearly be underlined and in bold. I'm sure Billy would confirm this. Edited December 10, 2008 by 21st century heathen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 No, sadly, Lee Complin (I think) broke it recently. It did stand for a decade though. *edit* Cheers Steve. Although Cradley should clearly be underlined and in bold. I'm sure Billy would confirm this. Although Billy has been quoted that he enjoyed his time at Wolves more than any other time in his career! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Truth is that he, as any other, would tell us all what we want to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Adams and must have been close and been in the top 3 when at Oxford, Poole and then Swindon but I think he was only number 1 at Swindon. I'd love it to be a Cradley vs Wolves meeting. Heard all about them, never experienced it myself. Imagine World War 3.............................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 IM A CRADLEY FAN WHO AS BEEN GOING TO THE WOLVES FOR A GOOD FEW YEARS SINCE THE DEMISE OF THE HEATHENS. I STILL DONT KNOW WHETHER TO BOO OR CHEER THE WOLVES BUT A WOLVES V CRADLEY MATCH WOULD BE GREAT. If you're a Cradley fan, there really is only one answer.................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Ridgeon Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I agree with that, we've all seen them had dodgy fiddled races, lets see them show they can still do it Just as long as Billy doesn't use Sam's pushbar to get a tow Just a lil off the main subject, but I have often wondered why there is not a 'senior tour' in speedway, like in golf. A rider who retires is often hanging it up either because they dont want the rigors of a full season or they are not signed by a team (Les & Neil Collins, Paul Thorp). Maybe a 12 round touring GP-esque series would go down well with fans? Take in UK and Europe, I'm sure it would be very popular. Because of the small sized tracks riders in American race to much older agaes, and whilst over 40 or 50 riders may not be competitive in European leagues, I am sure they could put on a show against each other. Great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Imagine World War 3.............................................................. with motorcylces. If you're a Cradley fan, there really is only one answer.................................................. You say that, but last season I cheered Wolves...to defeat!! Just as long as Billy doesn't use Sam's pushbar to get a tow Never happened!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Ridgeon Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Never happened!! I should add that the Wolves 1991 speedway video remains, to this day, a masterpiece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Whereas I enjoy looking back over the Dudley/Wolves Trophy results. Y'know, Wolves only won it 4 times in my lifetime. Just thought I'd throw that one out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Just as long as Billy doesn't use Sam's pushbar to get a tow with motorcylces. :lol Never happened!! Believe it or not me and the man himself have discussed this incident over many a Corrs Light over the last few years. We even thought of recreating the pushbar grab at the farewell but we're not sure how Sam might feel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Imagine World War 3.............................................................. with motorcylces. I like that idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 We even thought of recreating the pushbar grab at the farewell but we're not sure how Sam might feel... Who cares?! He's only a dirty dog. (said with love and respect for a Wolves hero ) I like that idea Gets the adrenalin flowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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