robolots Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 It's blatently obvious in all walks of life that one mans meat is another mans poison. This could certainly be said of both Scott Nicholls and Chris Harris. I personally prefer Scott to Bomber, but that said I will be behind BOTH of them 100% for the coming GP's Instead of the bitching, get behind them, give them 100% support and maybe and hopefully Chris can emulate that magnificent British GP win and Scott can find that bit more and establish himself as a top 8 GP rider. Whether you like it or not-they are in it now, so LETS ALL GET BEHIND THEM TOGETHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybtee Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 agree 100 percent. I am not a nicholls fan but was cheering him on at cardiff.,As you say get behind them both and all the best to the pair of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 It's blatently obvious in all walks of life that one mans meat is another mans poison. This could certainly be said of both Scott Nicholls and Chris Harris. I personally prefer Scott to Bomber, but that said I will be behind BOTH of them 100% for the coming GP's Instead of the bitching, get behind them, give them 100% support and maybe and hopefully Chris can emulate that magnificent British GP win and Scott can find that bit more and establish himself as a top 8 GP rider. Whether you like it or not-they are in it now, so LETS ALL GET BEHIND THEM TOGETHER So you are saying that, on this discussion forum, we are only allowed to post favourable comments about these two men? Even the much maligned Health and Safety Executive have not dared to restrict our freedom to comment, favourably or otherwise, on any rider be he a World Champion or one with all the potential to become an abysmal second-half failure. Within the law of the land and the rules and guidelines of the forum I will continue to express myself, with all due courtesy, on any subject raised for discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'll support them both, just as I would any rider who is British and in the GP's or riders I like (Bomber happens to fit into both categories) but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to be shocked at his inclusion in the GP's. Sadly, Bomber nomination does nothing to silence those who claim the GP's are unfair and it's not talents that gets you in but money/Nationality. The GP series should be the top 15 in the World (I know there some arguments about who that is and sadly, 2 non-top 15 riders qualified in the Qualifiers, so the top 13 is the best that can be achieved now), Chris doesn't, sadly, fit into that bracket base don the last 12 months performances. I'm not sure why people think Puk should be in either TBH, I think he has peaked. Zagar or Holder should have Harris' place IMO. That said, as I said in the beginning, I'll be supporting Bomber this season. I'll probably get to 2 GP's in 2008 and both time I'll be wearing my Chris Harris shirt and supporting him over everyone else, know he can prove us all wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) They have my full backing when i go to gps next season but that still doesnt explain how Harris somehow got in via the back door for next seasons gps. Edited November 8, 2008 by speedy den boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 They have my full backing when i go to gps next season but that still doesnt explain how Harris somehow got in via the back door for next seasons gps. Have you not read the other threads on this subject .................. SKY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Nicholls is by far the best rider we have at present , but is a bit of an enigma . There are times when he looks more than capable of living with the likes Nicki Pedersen and Jason Crump , but unfortunately he can't sustain it and reverts back to mediocrity all too often . Harris , apart from that freak night at Cardiff , has looked hopelessly out of his depth in GP's and how he has obtained a wildcard for next year is beyond me . I would like to see both of them do well , but i'm afraid you can only see them languishing down in about 10th and 11th places or thereabouts once again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Nicholls is by far the best rider we have at present , but is a bit of an enigma . There are times when he looks more than capable of living with the likes Nicki Pedersen and Jason Crump , but unfortunately he can't sustain it and reverts back to mediocrity all too often . Harris , apart from that freak night at Cardiff , has looked hopelessly out of his depth in GP's and how he has obtained a wildcard for next year is beyond me . I would like to see both of them do well , but i'm afraid you can only see them languishing down in about 10th and 11th places or thereabouts once again . Yes i agree there and also think they wont be much higher then that, unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I agrre with scb.I like Scott a lot and think he should be in.Obviously scb has seen Harris more than me,but at his best he is a good exciting rider.Just don't think he deserves to be in next year.But once the GPs come around i will be hoping he does well.No-one is going to tell me that i shouldn't post my thoughts on a forum.Problem is a lot of people fail to understand what is posted and jump to conclusions,usually wrong ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimbledonDon Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I'll back pretty much any brit in the GP's.... im pretty sure any patriotic brit would also! However Harris really dosen't deserve to be there... none the less ill still cheer bomber on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 echo some of those comments but well p****d off that nicholls is in again always seems to get a wildcard whereveer he finishes in the standings , can imagine some riders who have not got a wildcard resign themselves to the fact that nicholls will get a wildcard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 It would be very interesting this time next year if Nicholls and Harris finished say 13th and 14th and none of the Brits got thro' the qualifier. What would the promoters do then? Probably (hard faced) stick 'em back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Neither of these two are good enough for the GP series, and their appearances in it should be restricted to Cardiff as wild cards. Imo. It's ridiculous that a rider like Holder is ignored to make way for these serial failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 It's blatently obvious in all walks of life that one mans meat is another mans poison. This could certainly be said of both Scott Nicholls and Chris Harris. I personally prefer Scott to Bomber, but that said I will be behind BOTH of them 100% for the coming GP's Instead of the bitching, get behind them, give them 100% support and maybe and hopefully Chris can emulate that magnificent British GP win and Scott can find that bit more and establish himself as a top 8 GP rider. Whether you like it or not-they are in it now, so LETS ALL GET BEHIND THEM TOGETHER Yes, true to say that many speedway fans are very fickle - they would sooner cheer a foreign rider who happens to ride for their team than a Brit who doesn't. Shame that as a nation we don't inspire the sort of loyal following we deserve to get our country back on track, but then we don't get the support from the BSPA either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Neither of these two are good enough for the GP series, and their appearances in it should be restricted to Cardiff as wild cards. Imo. It's ridiculous that a rider like Holder is ignored to make way for these serial failures. Although Holder failed to qualify. I have no problem with Scotts inclusion as a WC but this must be his last one. If he doesn't qualify by right next season then that should be it. Harris' selection has me baffled, although a descision clearly made not on the basis of talent/ability it beggars belief. Niels, Hampel, Zagar all would IMO have been better choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Although Holder failed to qualify. I have no problem with Scotts inclusion as a WC but this must be his last one. If he doesn't qualify by right next season then that should be it. Harris' selection has me baffled, although a descision clearly made not on the basis of talent/ability it beggars belief. Niels, Hampel, Zagar all would IMO have been better choices. Harris and Nicholls failed to qualify too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Neither of these two are good enough for the GP series, and their appearances in it should be restricted to Cardiff as wild cards. Imo. It's ridiculous that a rider like Holder is ignored to make way for these serial failures. You know what the organisers should do? In order to decide who is best they should have some kind of race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yes, true to say that many speedway fans are very fickle - they would sooner cheer a foreign rider who happens to ride for their team than a Brit who doesn't. Shame that as a nation we don't inspire the sort of loyal following we deserve to get our country back on track, but then we don't get the support from the BSPA either. Fickle? I would rather cheer on a foreign rider who DOESN'T ride for my team than for a miserable loser who just happens to have been born in the same country as me. I pay my money and take my pick, and that may vary from Gp to Gp. Crikey I am even cheering for Hans these days, at least he's entertaining. I would walk over hot coals to watch Ceggy yet if Nicholls was riding in my back garden, I would draw the curtains. I don't want anyone telling me to be patriotic and back the Brits, I've back britain for 50 years and all I've every been by this country is shafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmiller Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Everyone is expressing some surprise at Bombers inclusion - maybe he just got lucky because Tai said no, not this year (I'm guessing not quoting) and apart from Richardson, there are no apparent alternatives. This thread confirms that British fans want to support British riders in the GP series. Now would be a great time for a proper British GP series that is open to non-GP riders. The majority of fans and riders are bored to tears with the Elite Leagues A + B nonsense and there are plenty of calls to do something radically different. British riders do not develop to ride for themselves because everything here is based on team racing. You could even run it on the Thursday or Friday before a GP although there is still the hurdle of UK fans not always backing individual racing to overcome. Still, the top riders withdrawal from over here has seemingly helped the promoters to decide that they dont need to work with the GP's so I really dont expect much to change at the conference. Hopefully, the promoters will take their heads out of the sand before they get on the plane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 As we are obviously going to have Chris Harris in the GP series I only wish that he would get rid of his insulting nickname. I don't know if he and his many fans realise it, but he has adpoted the name of a very dubious hero. Arthur "Bomber" Harris known also as "Butcher" Harris within RAF circles could easily have been tried as a war criminal but for the odd fact that the winning side doesn't seem to have any. He systematically targetted German working class residential areas for mass bombing, developing fire storms that sucked the very oxygen out of peoples' lungs. He probably was responsible for killing as many people as Himler or Stalin. Come on Chris, ditch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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