barrow boy Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 A return to the knock out system a few seasons ago would be good Now we are seeing the same riders on the podium. I just think it gave it more thrill - made a mess of the programme, but it was exciting all the way through for sure. I've often wondered this myself. The only thing I didn't like about this system though is the way some riders only had 2 rides before being eliminated. I do think though a similar format is more entertaining the way the night builds up in tension and interest. I realize that I am in a minority here but it is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTLAND1314 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Arrange to have a weekend free at the end of June and you can join me in the annual Cardiff pub crawl . Â Â You'll need to dig out your old Bay City Rollers scarf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 this really does go to show that the GP series is NOT the top riders in the world. Â harris finished behind both iversen and bjarne pedersen last year. iversen missed one gp through injury and pedersen missed two through injury. yet they arent in the 2009 series and harris is?? Â bjarne pedersen is clearly a much better rider than harris in the leagues and gps, whilst iversen i think is aswell. both are alot more professional imo. Â it should be the top 15 riders in the world riding in the gps. therefore no harris. Â absoloutely shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy105 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Perhaps the inclusion of the American, Swedish and Polish champions of 2008 would have added some colour and spectacle to the proceedingsIm sure Shovvy would have travelled the world to see these riders in action especially the one sporting the Stars and Stripes!  Oh Aye... Janniro, Zetterstrom and Skornicki would liven up the GP's no doubt  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Yes,but there isn't another Shazzybird in the world is there?At least i hope not We don't want to judge the population at large by how you go about things  1. You've never met me so please don't judge me  2. It was an example as to why me and mine go and probably a fair few others as well, not everyone who goes to Cardiff cheers the Brits on, like I said some of mine are Danish, Australian even Swedish fans so whether there are Brits there or not it wont affect their decision to attend ..... like I said it's speedway it's the British GP yes but the Poles amongst others come over for it as we go to theirs   3. It's a forum I'm entitled to my opinion as you are to yours, attack the post not the poster isn't that whats in the rules     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 If you look in this weeks Speedway Star CVS that if the top GP guys dont want to race here them so be it,also Pete Toogood is talking of making big decisions for next season. If that means that EL clubs will run on a more constant night e.g Coventry on a friday or Eastbourne on a saturday as they would like to then no GP rider can make themselves available for that. Â As it looks like Allen Trump will be staying on for another year at Coventry and he sponsors Chris Harris, I wonder what will happen now? I can't see Chris moving to another team so it looks like it will be same as usual for the Bees with loads of Monday meetings. So much for getting back to some consistency and regular Friday night racing. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 1. You've never met me so please don't judge me  2. It was an example as to why me and mine go and probably a fair few others as well, not everyone who goes to Cardiff cheers the Brits on, like I said some of mine are Danish, Australian even Swedish fans so whether there are Brits there or not it wont affect their decision to attend ..... like I said it's speedway it's the British GP yes but the Poles amongst others come over for it as we go to theirs   3. It's a forum I'm entitled to my opinion as you are to yours, attack the post not the poster isn't that whats in the rules 1.Pull your neck in  2.You seem to like to have a reputation of being controversial,not afraid to call a spade a spade or a slovie a slovie.So if you are so out there and different it would be obvious to come to the conclusion that you are a bit different to the general population.Or not? So,and i do make judgments on people by what they post,uness of course they take on the character of a Mongolian warlord or something,i think it is a fair assumption(without attacking anyone)to say "we can't judge the rest of the population by your standards".  3.Get over it or press the report button,if you think i was attacking you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUDGIE Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) this really does go to show that the GP series is NOT the top riders in the world. harris finished behind both iversen and bjarne pedersen last year. iversen missed one gp through injury and pedersen missed two through injury. yet they arent in the 2009 series and harris is??  bjarne pedersen is clearly a much better rider than harris in the leagues and gps, whilst iversen i think is aswell. both are alot more professional imo.  it should be the top 15 riders in the world riding in the gps. therefore no harris.  absoloutely shocking.   ..but you dont know if Pedersen or NKI turned the invitation down, therefore the line up maybe the Top 15 (available) riders in the world.  Its all a bit irrelevant anyway, can anyone see the 2009 World Champion coming from anyone outside the 2008 Top 6? Therefore as long as they are in it the rest, to some extent, dont matter Edited November 9, 2008 by BUDGIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb the Snail Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Harris! What a total disgrace! Â I can't say that I'm totally surprised, but as the Adder suggested, this decision stinks the place out. Nicholls deserves his spot, and I have no problem with Lindgren and Sajfutdinov taking their place in the series either, but there are at least half a dozen riders with a better claim than Bomber. Â The sooner riders are selected on ability rather than nationality the better, but I won't hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Bomber isnt that bad...He had some awful crashes this year and started the year off slowly. I must have watched a completely different rider to most.. I think he'll do ok next year. Nicholls can turn it on when hes really fired up, but to me isnt really going anywhere and Niels deserved a place more so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 As much as id like to see it, i would be very shocked if we have a Brit in the top 8 next year! Â good luck to Scotty and Bomber tho!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) Harris! What a total disgrace! Â I can't say that I'm totally surprised, but as the Adder suggested, this decision stinks the place out. Nicholls deserves his spot, and I have no problem with Lindgren and Sajfutdinov taking their place in the series either, but there are at least half a dozen riders with a better claim than Bomber. Â The sooner riders are selected on ability rather than nationality the better, but I won't hold my breath. Agree totally . The GP series is how we find our World Champion , how is this possible when a certain amount of riders are only selected through a quirk of birth . If we must go down the GP route then let's get a better method of qualification sorted out . Edited November 9, 2008 by Paulco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Â Â When there is only 8 qualifying spots and such a big gap between the top 4 and the rest there is always gonna be riders who don't quite make the grade. There isnt and never will be 16 world class riders, simple as. Should we just have 8 Gp riders ....How boring. Â Good Luck to Bomber, I'm sure he will do much better next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 . Should we just have 8 Gp riders ....How boring. Â Good Luck to Bomber, I'm sure he will do much better next year. Eeekkk!Can you "imagine that" as LL Cool J would say?Heck no.That would be even worse if you were always going to get quotas from different countries.2 from Denmark,2 from Poland,2 from GB and then one Swede and one "other" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Harris! What a total disgrace!  I can't say that I'm totally surprised, but as the Adder suggested, this decision stinks the place out. Nicholls deserves his spot, and I have no problem with Lindgren and Sajfutdinov taking their place in the series either, but there are at least half a dozen riders with a better claim than Bomber  The sooner riders are selected on ability rather than nationality the better, but I won't hold my breath. OH - please do, it could be fun!!!! and we'll tell you when to stop.  And stop picking on Bomber it wouldnt be allowed if he was a Robin now would it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Who else is there?! Â Chris Holder for one - he'd do better than 50% of the contenders, let alone Harris! Â Â Â Do you follow you speedway....? Â Holder has stated plenty of times he doesn't want to ride GP's yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 So the f**k what that he is British? He was not good enough in 2008. Yes he won a GP, the British GP in 2007 but that is all he as really done and on merit does NOT deserve a place in 2009, he was simply not good enough in 2008/ Â Oh and I suppose Ulamek and Walasek are... Â Yes that is a very intelligent post.....not....but you haven't said who would be worthy of replacing him?? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anders Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Oh and I suppose Ulamek and Walasek are... Â Can't say I'm particulary excited about Ulamek and Walasek either, but at least they have qualified on merit, like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Can't say I'm particulary excited about Ulamek and Walasek either  Don't all these discussions merely demonstrate the paucity of talent in world speedway at the moment? Most of agree that the selected line-up for next season's SGP is pretty tedious, but no-one can really come up with any better names.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12bore Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Anyone who follows motorsport knows talent isnt everything, to not have british riders in the GP would be a disaster, the same disaster that happened to World Superbike this year, very little interest, numbers well down at the british rounds and the dutch round which is well supported by brits, the response about 6 british riders in next years competition to compensate. The number of spanish and italian riders in Moto GP and the supporting series is no accident, these guys are no better riders than the british talent but the factories need spanish and italian arses on 125s to sell bikes in probably the two biggest lightweight markets in the world its interesting that three of the best british riders to now ride in the series have never raced in britian, they did their apprenticeships in spain where they were racing in an ultra competitive factory sponsored championship. Holder may be a hot prospect but he has little or no commercial value to TV companies unless of course they are going to australia again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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