M08 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Harris, Nicholls and some of the foreigners have failed to light any fires, new blood is needed, some said Tai was too young for the WTC, well he showed what some of us knew about him and how lack luster the others were, too young, not enough experience well only time will tell, those that have the experience and have been allowed in have seriously under achieved imo So you're another saying that Tai should be in the Gps? He'd get bloody mauled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano4265 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 So you're another saying that Tai should be in the Gps? He'd get bloody mauled Maybe maybe not, there's been plenty over the years who've been in that have done squat diddly, about time some took some risks. Some said Casey Stoner was too young for Moto GP, second year in he was World Champ, some also said the same about Lewis Hamilton, i know they're in a different kind of motor sport, but hey give the youngster/youngsters ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Very disappointed with the wildcards. Getting very stale now, maybe time for a change of the sports we sponsor. I tell ya man come and sponsor King's Lynn, you'll enjoy ya nights out much more than watching the eleven stale GPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessiebee Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Although, by his standards, Bomber had a disappointing season I really hope he can come back next year and be as good, if not better, than the 2007 season. I'd love him to add another GP win to the one he already has and shut up a few of the whingers on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano4265 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Although, by his standards, Bomber had a disappointing season I really hope he can come back next year and be as good, if not better, than the 2007 season. I'd love him to add another GP win to the one he already has and shut up a few of the whingers on here.We'd off loved him to add another one following Cardiff, we'd also have loved him, Scotty, Richardson, Allen, Stead to have done well @ Coventry in the WTC then backed up Tai in Denmark, but hey i expect we expect too much of the ones that always seem to be picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Talk of riders such as Woffinden getting a GP berth are farcical. He would be half a lap behind. Hasn't done a single thing, yet, to show he will even make the grade in years to come. Sure he looks like he will be a good rider buut I don't think he will have a near 9 average in 2009 like Holder managed this season. And the powers that be say Holder isn't yet ready! I mean, to put in Harris over Holder is a sick joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Talk of riders such as Woffinden getting a GP berth are farcical. He would be half a lap behind. Hasn't done a single thing, yet, to show he will even make the grade in years to come. Sure he looks like he will be a good rider buut I don't think he will have a near 9 average in 2009 like Holder managed this season. And the powers that be say Holder isn't yet ready! I mean, to put in Harris over Holder is a sick joke. As usual enjoy reading Mr Shovlar !!! But do agree, I am a patriotic Brit speedway fan, but sorry Harris did not warrant a wild card. It needs to be freshened up a bit and I do like the Russian in and would have been interesteing to see Tai in there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hasn't done a single thing, yet, to show he will even make the grade in years to come Having Tai in the GP's for 2009 would have been ridiculous but I have to challenge that sentence of yours Steve. To average 11 in the CL at fifteen years old, then 9 in your first PL season at sixteen suggests that he is super talented. Further strides were taken this year (still just seventeen until recently) with a 10 point PL average, PLRC title, an excellent SWC debut and several decent scores as an EL guest. Sure he has struggled a bit on the continent but he is still very young and will improve again next year racing against the world's best more frequently. He may not match Noddy's debut EL average next season but don't forget he is two years behind him. The boy is the real deal and its a shame one or two are questioning this fact because of a bit of over exuberance from the wallies on Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Makes the whole thing a bit of a mockery. Harris must be the luckiest rider to ever get a nomination, seeing that he finished well behind Puk and Bjarne last season.1 point is now "well behind"? I don't know what Lewis Hamilton was worrying about in the F1, Massa finished "well behind" him in the standings in the end! What happened to qualifiers?, surely that would be better LOL, Bjerrem Ulamek and Walasek have qualifier, only Bjerre will do anything of note. Expect Ulamek and Walasek to throw in the odd ride (similar to Dryml this year) but then the next 4 guys were Iversen, Jedrzejak, Sullivan and Monberg. Thats Iversen who only managed 1 point more than Harris, Jedrzejak who is a reasonable rider but a potential GP winner? No chance (Harris is, he's done it once, why not again?), Sullivan maybe and Monberg was tripe in his last stint in the GP's, he's never been top 8 material and never will be. I was wondering if I had to pick a top 15 who I'd pick and I'd not have Ulamek, Walasek or Harris. Nicholls just sneaks in too. Jonas Davidsson is a maybe, Sullivan another, Holder is only a maybe. Theres an awful lot of rider who are good in 2 of the 3 main leagues who have a good argument TBH, sald,y Harris, Ulamek and Walasek are not in that list. I've not included rider who have said in the recent past they're not interested in the GP series (other than Holder) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Very disappointed with the wildcards. Getting very stale now, maybe time for a change of the sports we sponsor. Did I tell you I play for a Ladies Mud Wrestling Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Ain't got a problem with the wild cards my self no other names stand out to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 The selection of Harris is high comedy. I'm a GP fan, but this selection is really beyond defence. The fact he finished behind some riders who have not been selected is the most blatant example of money talking we've seen yet. Even if it was felt there was nobody outside the GP's worthy of the place, Bjarne and PUK were both more worthy of the spot based on '08. Shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Talk of riders such as Woffinden getting a GP berth are farcical. He would be half a lap behind. Hasn't done a single thing, yet, to show he will even make the grade in years to come. Sure he looks like he will be a good rider buut I don't think he will have a near 9 average in 2009 like Holder managed this season. And the powers that be say Holder isn't yet ready! I mean, to put in Harris over Holder is a sick joke. Holder said he did not want to be considered for the GP, so how can it be a sick joke, Holder did not want ride so hence he has not been chosen. Of course the inclusion of Bomber Harris is down to the fact that he is British, and the British GP is one of top Grand Prix's, it is the same reason why Freddie Lingren is in to make up the Swedish numbers. I agree at the moment Tai is not ready, give him two years and I think he will, putting him in now would do him no good, prove of happens when you putting riders in before they are ready look Antoninio Lindback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipg Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 chris harris yes give him a thrid year but if you dont finish in the top eight your gone. as for scott nichols he,s had to many chances never going to get any better should have made way for younger up/coming rider. just shows what a farse the gp is riders getting in because of tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 people talk about the elite league being a farce this has to be the icing on the cake harris a complete joke i wonder if he feels embarrased but probably not though , just trying to put bums on seats for cardiff i imagine but this is really a poor decison , as for nicholls another back door entry everyone fights to get in the top 8 but he must surely have a good idea every year he will get a wildcard whats this 3rd or 4th year running now must be some serious arse licking going on somewhere !!!!!!!!!!!! not happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) Talk of riders such as Woffinden getting a GP berth are farcical. He would be half a lap behind. Hasn't done a single thing, yet, to show he will even make the grade in years to come. Sure he looks like he will be a good rider buut I don't think he will have a near 9 average in 2009 like Holder managed this season. And the powers that be say Holder isn't yet ready! I mean, to put in Harris over Holder is a sick joke. You talk sense usually Steve, but Tai has done alot more than Holder had done by the same age. Not saying Tai should be in the GP's, but to dismiss his record at such a young age to get your point across is wrong. He will go on and be a better rider than Holder in the future. Edited November 8, 2008 by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian renton Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Has Harris changed nationality or something, get behind the brits for godness sake. all them bottom end riders are all much the same anyway what does it matter who's in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Has Harris changed nationality or something, get behind the brits for godness sake. all them bottom end riders are all much the same anyway what does it matter who's in it! when they deserve the chance maybe!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Has Harris changed nationality or something, get behind the brits for godness sake. all them bottom end riders are all much the same anyway what does it matter who's in it! Not a question weather hariis is a brit a turk or a yank him being in it is wrong . No doubt most brits will hope he does well but that not the point . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max the rebel Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 My top 16 would be........ 1.n pedersen 2.Jason crump 3.Leigh Adams 4.greg hancock 5.tomasz gollob 6.andreas jonsson 7.hans andersen 8.jerek hampel 9.bjarne pedersen 10.runa Holta 11.emil the Russian 12.chris holder 13.Scott nicholls 14.Ryan Sullivan 15.pavilic 16.kk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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