Ghostwalker Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 What a JOKE, harris,nicholls,walesek,Lindgren,Ulamek,Bjerre will do nothing in the gp`s i cant stop laughing its so funny Cant see any of them riders getting close to Nicki,Jason,Leigh,Greg and tomasz Its going to be two races in one heat The riders who should have got the wild cards should have been............ Holder,Sajfutdinov,B Pedersen,Hampel The gp`s are a joke i disagree. Lindgren will do better next year. its very difficult for the younger riders to manage top 8 in their first gp season. FL defenitely earns another chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 i disagree. Lindgren will do better next year. its very difficult for the younger riders to manage top 8 in their first gp season. FL defenitely earns another chance. Fl is crap i expect him to do even worse next year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 A very embarressing day for British speedway and the GP series to include Chris Harris, who was completely out of his depth in 2008. I can't remember a single GP where he made a mark. His performances were no better than Richardsons. In fact Lee did a bit better. And considering bjarne Pedersen has been given the heave ho, and was 11 points in front of Harris and missed two GPs ( which if he had ridden in woould have probably qualified) shows how poor and off the pace Harris was. This is nothing more than a TV contract deal. Sky have probably got an agreement where there will always be two british riders in the series, no matter how rubbish they are. Let's be frank and honest here. Chris Holder is a class above Harris, but was born in the wrong country, where there are currently no GPs and no live TV coveregae from a TV station. If Aus had a live feed and a round, there is no way on gods earth that Harris would have been chosen over Holder. Noddy had a disaster in the qualifying round with two EF's while leading and an exclusion when he was nowhere near the rider. But that's the way his luck went that day. Hampel was unfortunate but with Walasek and Ulamek both getting back into the series, he never had a chance. a better rider than both but where was he in the rounds? So we have quite a few duffers in the series for 2009, but NP will walk it anyway. Just a shame riders of a high quality have to wait to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 A very embarressing day for British speedway and the GP series to include Chris Harris, who was completely out of his depth in 2008. I can't remember a single GP where he made a mark. His performances were no better than Richardsons. In fact Lee did a bit better. And considering bjarne Pedersen has been given the heave ho, and was 11 points in front of Harris and missed two GPs ( which if he had ridden in woould have probably qualified) shows how poor and off the pace Harris was. This is nothing more than a TV contract deal. Sky have probably got an agreement where there will always be two british riders in the series, no matter how rubbish they are. Let's be frank and honest here. Chris Holder is a class above Harris, but was born in the wrong country, where there are currently no GPs and no live TV coveregae from a TV station. If Aus had a live feed and a round, there is no way on gods earth that Harris would have been chosen over Holder. Noddy had a disaster in the qualifying round with two EF's while leading and an exclusion when he was nowhere near the rider. But that's the way his luck went that day. Hampel was unfortunate but with Walasek and Ulamek both getting back into the series, he never had a chance. a better rider than both but where was he in the rounds? I couldn't agree with you more Steve & Chris Harris should do himself a favour and turn down the offer and let someone who deserves it, like Hampel get another chance. This decision is very poor when you consider both Bjarne & Jarek last season only didn't qualify because they missed meetings due to injury. So we have quite a few duffers in the series for 2009, but NP will walk it anyway. Just a shame riders of a high quality have to wait to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Seems they couldn't do without the brits. Scotty was nailed on IMO, but Bombers' inclusion baffles me. As I mentioned a while ago, they lure of the cash generated by having the brits in, especially for Cardiff, got him his place. Now argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Pretty much agree that Bomber is a lucky boy & its simply down to the ticket sales for Cardiff as the main reason he's in. Did both Bydgoszcz GP meetings but must say i will now have to go again next yr to see Sajfutdinov round there!! To see him, Gollob & AJ tearing it up will be a sight to see....if it rains that is & the track produces a dirt line like the "German" Gp rather than the motorway it resembled for the one 5 weeks previously!! When are the dates going to be confirmed though?? Bit ridiculous that we know all the riders but dont know the dates of the GP's themselves. Want to decide which ones to go for so i can book in early!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilly Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Why cant the brits get behind their riders like the swedes and poles etc instead of slagging them off all the time! has anyone ever thought that if they got some support from the fans it might help them!!! At least he is capable of it unlike some! A bit of support goes a long way support your own for a change!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Whilst I'd ordinarily agree with you about supporting our own, I don't see any reason why people can't objectively discuss his inclusion. The GP after all, is supposed to be about the world's top 16 riders battling out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Chris Holder is a class above Harris, but was born in the wrong country This sentence sums up what is wrong with how riders are picked for the GPs. Holder didn't qualify and bad luck or not, he didn't get through when he could have. However, to place him below Harris is madness, yet Harris gets the nod. Holder could probably have got one if the Aussie GP was going ahead. As it isn't, having 3 Aussies is pointless to whoever's made this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Why cant the brits get behind their riders like the swedes and poles etc instead of slagging them off all the time! has anyone ever thought that if they got some support from the fans it might help them!!! At least he is capable of it unlike some! A bit of support goes a long way support your own for a change!!! Nobody's not getting behind Bomber, but simply being realistic about why he's been included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'd be interested to know whether Holder was approached with a view to a wildcard place - he's made it known that he was uncertain about going into the GPs yet, and certainly seems to march the beat of his own drum rather than being led - I wonder if he decided to give it a further year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcel Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 A very embarressing day for British speedway and the GP series to include Chris Harris, who was completely out of his depth in 2008. I can't remember a single GP where he made a mark. His performances were no better than Richardsons. In fact Lee did a bit better. And considering bjarne Pedersen has been given the heave ho, and was 11 points in front of Harris and missed two GPs ( which if he had ridden in woould have probably qualified) shows how poor and off the pace Harris was. This is nothing more than a TV contract deal. Sky have probably got an agreement where there will always be two british riders in the series, no matter how rubbish they are. Let's be frank and honest here. Chris Holder is a class above Harris, but was born in the wrong country, where there are currently no GPs and no live TV coveregae from a TV station. If Aus had a live feed and a round, there is no way on gods earth that Harris would have been chosen over Holder. Noddy had a disaster in the qualifying round with two EF's while leading and an exclusion when he was nowhere near the rider. But that's the way his luck went that day. Hampel was unfortunate but with Walasek and Ulamek both getting back into the series, he never had a chance. a better rider than both but where was he in the rounds? So we have quite a few duffers in the series for 2009, but NP will walk it anyway. Just a shame riders of a high quality have to wait to get in. good point made. oh and we got go thru all the same harris adverts again this year leading up to cardiff , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I,m gutted Chris Holder is not in GPs in 2009 no way should Harris be in next season only thing i hope for as Poland have 2 GPs and Bydgoszcz is the Polish GP and Leszno is the European GP on May 9th can Chris Holder get his chance ? not ideal but he should at least get a chance . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I,m gutted Chris Holder is not in GPs in 2009 no way should Harris be in next season only thing i hope for as Poland have 2 GPs and Bydgoszcz is the Polish GP and Leszno is the European GP on May 9th can Chris Holder get his chance ? not ideal but he should at least get a chance . He has no chance. Polish fans would riot if one of their own isn't chosen over Holder. have to wait for 2010 and a wild card, or have more luck in the qualifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 There seems to be too much emphasis on making sure there aren't too many riders from the same country which is wrong in my opinion. Hampel should have been one of the wild cards whether there are already four Poles in there or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 He has no chance. Polish fans would riot if one of their own isn't chosen over Holder. have to wait for 2010 and a wild card, or have more luck in the qualifiers. but why should they ? they have 2 GPs .I just think he deserves a chance in 09 at some stage . I,m just gutted for him he is by far the best rider outside the GPs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Makes the whole thing a bit of a mockery. Harris must be the luckiest rider to ever get a nomination, seeing that he finished well behind Puk and Bjarne last season. If the nomination system has to be used I wish it was to ensure the next best 4 riders were included, not to even up some arbitary national quota. I would like to see Holder get a wild card opportunity in 2009, but can't see him getting a go in front of any of the home nations. The best idea would be to see him at Cardiff, but I reckon the system which gave us Howe and Kennett over the past 2 years will stay in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pea Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 The reason there are 2 Brits in the GP are for TV Reasons only.. Chris Harris does deffinately does not deserve to be there and is nothing better than an average Elite league rider. It is a joke that Brits keep getting put back in the GP's when performing badly in previous years e.g Richardson,Harris..When the likes of Hans Andersen is taken out (few years ago) and was been riding hell of a lot better than harris! There are probably at least 10 better riders in the World than Harris. Kennett & Woffinden - for crying out loud open your eyes..GP Material? I don't think so..what planet are you on! Nicholls on the other hand I think does deserve this opportunity. Some of you really need to open your eyes. Pea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik B1200 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 "Nicholls on the other hand I think does deserve this opportunity." Why? Done nothing in Gp apart from give 110% allegedly, would love to be proved wrong and Scott won some Gp's its just that he seems to run hot and cold and most of the time its cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlivefrankie Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 to me this field looks very stale im afraid, i would have put holder in at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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