Reviresco Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 And an excellent back up team, something which can't just be put together overnight. Totally agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 IMO no-one can touch Nicki for the next 3-4 years atleast he is so dominant !! Bet you thought the same about Rickardsson, things can change so fast, Niki takes his fair share of big spills and has been lucky to avoid missing any gp,s in the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 It will be an insult to the sport if he wins any more than 3, in fact 3 is a bit of a slap in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Nicky doesn't possess enough integrity to deserve 6 world titles. Great rider, who is a major player in speedway, but has tricks in his locker that a true legend wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Nicky doesn't possess enough integrity to deserve 6 world titles. Great rider, who is a major player in speedway, but has tricks in his locker that a true legend wouldn't. Think Ivan Mauger was a master at that, just ask John Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.I.G. Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 How can Nicky Pedersen fail to win more world titles, with Olsen preparing the tracks just how he likes them. Nicky not so hot on one off tracks, it still smells a bit that the German GP turned out a fiasco. Funny how it has all been swept under the carpet, Olsen must take the ultimate blame, as he is aledgedly in charge of track preperation. I don,t think Crumpy will win another title, unless he gets off to a good start in the first few GPs. he didn,t seem to have the same drive this year, and last night he didn,t seem really interested. I don, t know what has been wrong with his equipment this year, he has often appeared to lack power. As has been said Andersen probably is the nearest challenger, but sometimes lacks the consistancy to be a regular winner at GP level. Gollob would be a threat if all the Gps were on big regular used tracks, and Adams and Hancock are both too old now, great riders that they are. It will be a while before some young upstart emerges to upset the status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 (edited) He's equalled Gundersen and Olsen's three. One more and he'd tie with Hans Nielsen to being the best Dane ever, based on world titles. Schumi, actually Nielsen won 22 World titles. And Gundersen won 17. How many has Nicki won so far? Five, I think. He's nowhere near. All the best Rob Edited October 19, 2008 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Nicky doesn't possess enough integrity to deserve 6 world titles. Great rider, who is a major player in speedway, but has tricks in his locker that a true legend wouldn't. That's nonsense. A champion wins by any means possible. Anyway, if the GP stays, it's only a matter of time before someone wins 10 individual titles. That's the rough number that Fundin, Mauger or Nielsen would have won under such a system. 16 riders could win a World Final, 2 or 3 can win under a GP system. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 That's nonsense. A champion wins by any means possible. Anyway, if the GP stays, it's only a matter of time before someone wins 10 individual titles. That's the rough number that Fundin, Mauger or Nielsen would have won under such a system. 16 riders could win a World Final, 2 or 3 can win under a GP system. All the best Rob Not if he wants respect he doesn't. Children tend to use this attitude to win, therefore, make your own mind up what I think of adults who use the same philosophy. All the best Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I cans ee it happening if injuries and motivation do get in the way. I think since his first win he has wanted to be classed with the big boys and to be a danish legend you need at least 3, ie in Olsen and Gundersen class, so as long as he wishes to become the Dane with most individual wins under his belt he needs to go to 5, which is the number i personally think he will stay at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I think Crumpy has 1 more world title in him but who else his there to stop him. Hans Andersen for me is another Leigh Adams, more than good enough but hasnt got that little extra you need to win a world title. But GPs and beign world champion take a lot out of a rider especially doing it 2 years running and cant see NP winning next year as he may take it a bit easier without realising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Schumi, actually Nielsen won 22 World titles. And Gundersen won 17. How many has Nicki won so far? Five, I think. He's nowhere near. All the best Rob Bit harsh. Those boys rode in World Team cup & Pairs (which no longer exists) when the danes dominated everything.. I think Nikki is a good world champ. A few years ago he was too ruthless & I wasnt a fan. But I think he's a bit better these days. Plus he's World Champion and he's missing 2 fingers on 1 hand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjw ministerofport Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Unless the other riders can raise their game Nicki without major injury should be capable of more championships. Good luck to him if that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schumi Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Schumi, actually Nielsen won 22 World titles. And Gundersen won 17. How many has Nicki won so far? Five, I think. He's nowhere near. All the best Mr Pedantic I'm only counting individual world championships - but you knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I'm only counting individual world championships - but you knew that. Schumi - but why are you trying to compare one-off World Finals with the GP series - they are different beasts entirely. It's like trying to compare a plsuh sportscar (the World Final) with a battered old mini where the heater doesn't work, the doors don't open and somebody has thrown up in the glove department (the GP series). Nielsen knows how many titles Hans would have won with a GP series in operation during his whole career. But I'm glad it wasn't - it would have been dreadfully boring. Anyway, whatever you say, Nicki P is not fit to lick Nielsen's boots. Come back when Nicki has recorded an astonishing 11.83 (yes, 11.83) league average. Becuase Nicki never will. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schumi Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Schumi - but why are you trying to compare one-off World Finals with the GP series - they are different beasts entirely. It's like trying to compare a plsuh sportscar (the World Final) with a battered old mini where the heater doesn't work, the doors don't open and somebody has thrown up in the glove department (the GP series). Nielsen knows how many titles Hans would have won with a GP series in operation during his whole career. But I'm glad it wasn't - it would have been dreadfully boring. Anyway, whatever you say, Nicki P is not fit to lick Nielsen's boots. Come back when Nicki has recorded an astonishing 11.83 (yes, 11.83) league average. Becuase Nicki never will. All the best Rob I'm not trying to compare anything - I was stating a fact. And that fact is that Nicki has been WC three times, and Hans has four. You can argue who was the better rider all you like, and the merits of each system, but you won’t change the figures. And Nicki’s average in Denmark is 11.35. I suspect it’s higher in Russia. I know what your counter-argument will be, but you simply said to come back when his league average is that high – you didn’t stipulate where, or over how any meetings. See, I can be as argumentative as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Strange but I don't really think of Nicki in the same league as the likes of Rickardsson, Nielsen, Gundersen etc. Sure, he's good, but he's not got that aura of greatness the others had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Such as? Winning six is a huge ask but personally I don't see anyone around at the moment challenging him. Perhaps the next batch will but who knows. Hmm, remind me how many GPs he actually won this year.. One to Adams' two, Crump's two (and should've been three) and Gollob's three. If you think by this, he is completely dominant it can only be because winning the world championship in these days of GPs is truly a matter of the lowest common denominator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Schumi - but why are you trying to compare one-off World Finals with the GP series - they are different beasts entirely. It's like trying to compare a plush sports car (the World Final) with a battered old mini where the heater doesn't work, the doors don't open and somebody has thrown up in the glove department (the GP series). Nielsen knows how many titles Hans would have won with a GP series in operation during his whole career. But I'm glad it wasn't - it would have been dreadfully boring. All the best Rob A brilliant post, Roberto my friend!! Just for this, I promise never again to suggest that Oxford didn't deserve their glorious 2005 CL triumph!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 See, I can be as argumentative as you. Ah, but I know I'm right. And the FACTS are - World titles: Nielsen 22, Gundersen 17, Nicki Pedersen 5. Nicki hasn't even caught up with serial bottler Tommy Knudsen yet. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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