Wackie Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Well considering Newport are no longer running it would be a bit stupid keeping it there, don't you think? A crass & unsympathetic comment. Another question - Why was Newport the only club that could run an out of season meeting. Newport aren't the only club who can or have run an out of season meeting, but I think there are a limited number of licences available for out of season meetings (3 springs to mind for some reason). Obviously this makes the licences a valuable commodity as speedway fans are gagging to see a bit of track action during the long winter months, but if an application was submitted by another promotion, as suggested, 3 days after Tim Stone passed away, I quite agree with SCB it's akin to grave robbing! The New Year Classic belongs at Hayley Stadium, It's Tim's legacy & anyone with any moral decency should see it stays there. Good luck to Mark Legg & Malc Holloway. Don't think it'll be M&M promoting the event, but as existing BSPA promoters they can apply for a licence on behalf of someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 The important word in that line is 'rumour', so why slag off an innocent man until proven guilty then?? Unfortunately, there is generally no smoke without fire and like you said the word "rumour" plays a significant part in a lot of stories these days. No one has "slagged off an innocent man" and I think if he had to be "proven guilty" he would have had to have committed an enormous crime unless of course you know any different !! NO - seriously - time will be the revealer of all future arrangements and unfortunately we all have to sit and wait. It is hoped that Newport can keep the New Year Classic in memory of TIM STONE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Unfortunately, there is generally no smoke without fire and like you said the word "rumour" plays a significant part in a lot of stories these days. Hmmm, maybe it's just me putting 2+2 together but after reviewing this topic I reckon that smoke's getting thicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 OMG i can not believe this thread. If you had prove that the promoter you're talking about had done this then fair enough. But to attack someone like that based on a rumour is ridulous. Most rumours turn out to be rubbish. Hope you lot are going to apoligise to him if it doesn't turn out to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Most rumours turn out to be rubbish. Actually, most turn out to have more that an element of truth. Certainly those that come from certain people. I'd go as far as to say that if Vince posts something he has it on good authority as if anything he is known to play down the rumour side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Actually, most turn out to have more that an element of truth. Certainly those that come from certain people. I'd go as far as to say that if Vince posts something he has it on good authority as if anything he is known to play down the rumour side of things. Well i still think its harsh to attack someone based on a rumour! If its true then fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I don't see what all the fuss is about....proven until guilty. Anyway, I am sure Tim Stone would have been be happy if Newport would have passed it to Poole and given the New Year Classic the exposure, atmosphere and the big crowds out of a mark of respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Actually, most turn out to have more that an element of truth. Certainly those that come from certain people. I'd go as far as to say that if Vince posts something he has it on good authority as if anything he is known to play down the rumour side of things. I will say that I think I made it plain that it was just something I heard, it does however fit in with the story from hawk which came from a undeniably good source but also didn't name a club. I deliberately didn't put a name to anything because it is rumour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowmix Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I don't see what all the fuss is about....proven until guilty. Anyway, I am sure Tim Stone would have been be happy if Newport would have passed it to Poole and given the New Year Classic the exposure, atmosphere and the big crowds out of a mark of respect. and the profits that go with it eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I don't see what all the fuss is about....proven until guilty. Anyway, I am sure Tim Stone would have been be happy if Newport would have passed it to Poole and given the New Year Classic the exposure, atmosphere and the big crowds out of a mark of respect. Given that comment and the pride that Tim took in being the originator of the event I would have to say you didn't know Tim at all! He took a date that nobody else wanted or considered practical and made it work and then over the past few years there were many suggestions that it should be 'shared around' - presumably because it was now a proven success. The fact still remains that given the weather conditions at that time of year most tracks will suffer more cancelations than meetings. The very reason that people complained about Newport being dusty, the excellent drainage, saw only one meeting postponed in ten years I believe and that was re-run the following weekend. I doubt there is another track that could get close to matching that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Newport aren't the only club who can or have run an out of season meeting, but I think there are a limited number of licences available for out of season meetings (3 springs to mind for some reason). The rule is that permits will be granted for one meeting per calendar month. So November is vacant, December Brighton, January (up to now and I hope it continues) Newport and Feb is Telford. However there is nothing to stop the BSPA deciding to change the rule, either as a matter of policy or as an 'exception' to the policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyHart Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Confirmed. Its Poole's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
father jack Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) Poole are grave robbers - offical. I hope Matt Ford can sleep at night. And they wonder why everyone hates them. They have taken the sport to an all time low. Edited October 16, 2008 by father jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Poole are grave robbers - offical. I hope Matt Ford can sleep at night. And they wonder why everyone hates them. A bit of a ridiculous statement. If Poole hadn't held it it would not have taken place. And it's only for one year. Newport don't have a current promoter and until all legalities are sorted there won't be any speedway at Newport so why be bitter?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 If Poole hadn't held it it would not have taken place. That wasn't necessarily the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meowmix Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 The NYC at Newport could have been the springboard a new promotion needed to kick things off there again. Better to start a new season with some money in the bank rather than starting off in the red. Hope this doesn't affect Newports chances of a league return next season Fat maud can shove his meeting, not only because of the principles of the situation but the early March meeting this season was dire, can't imagine a January meeting a wimbourne road being any better. Personally hope it flops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
father jack Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 A bit of a ridiculous statement. If Poole hadn't held it it would not have taken place. And it's only for one year. Newport don't have a current promoter and until all legalities are sorted there won't be any speedway at Newport so why be bitter?. Steve only you could think what has happened is in the least bit ethical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 All I can add, is that when I was told of this on Monday, it was said at the time that no objections to the plan to hold the meeting had been received. I've no reason to doubt the integrity of the person who told me this so this might indicate that no other promotion or concern were planning to go ahead at Newport or anywhere else. At the moment a lot of the anger appears to be based on rumour and heresay over timings and possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Very disappointed that this meeting has been lost to Newport for next year,I was hoping that it would still take place at it`s rightful home Still,if it`s a success at Poole,I can`t wait to see all the Poole fans travel up to Newport when it returns to it`s rightful home,I`ll even let Shovvy buy me a pint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themilkman23 Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Been a strange old season. Even though some of my closest friends and family are heavily involved with Speedway I've found myself drifting away from the sport quite a bit and thought that it was because of Tim's death being that he was a good friend but I've realised it's not that. They say Speedway is a family sport and that is their tag line to get people along but the majority of the people within the sport couldn't be further that statement. It was hard enough for people connected to Newport Speedway to loose Tim and thus the Wasps for a year. Then on top of that the despicable actions from the Plymouth promotion to steal the team and rebrand them for their own gain. But JUST as fans start to see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel with a new owner/promotion, this comes out. The NYC was NEVER an event that moved around different tracks like the ELRC, it was a Newport event. Newport started it and have run it since we reopened in the new era. Yes, officially Newport do not have a promotion, but it is widely known that the wheels are in motion in a big way and I know the BSPA are aware of this, and the new regime have said that they WANT to run the meeting. So like someone else said why not allow them to use this event as a springboard and a new beginning of sorts, maybe change the name as a tribute to Tim and his legacy at Newport? Really poor form from the Poole promotion, regardless of the timing they applied for the meeting. I've never really understood the reasons behind the dislike of Poole from alot of members on this forum, but it's starting to become clear now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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