Steve Shovlar Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Rob, no other club other than Poole applied to run it. Several clubs showed an interest but didn't apply in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Daley Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) Rob, no other club other than Poole applied to run it. Several clubs showed an interest but didn't apply in the end. Â And of course you believe and quote everything your promoter tells you. Â Also, to add, since when has the NYC ever been put out to tender? Edited October 16, 2008 by Arthur Daley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I hope Poole are proud of themselves and enjoy all the extra money to top up their accounts. Not only do they host most of the big meetings held by the BSPA and WTC Â Really? Must've missed all of these over the last couple of years. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Also, to add, since when has the NYC ever been put out to tender? Â It has always gone out to tender but there was a gentlemans agreement for Newport to run it as they needed the money it generated, so others did not apply. Â Now that Newort are currently a defunct club what is the point of them still having it? Until they are resurrected why should this meeting also go down the pan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 It has always gone out to tender but there was a gentlemans agreement for Newport to run it as they needed the money it generated, so others did not apply. Â Â So now Poole are the most needy club then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlivefrankie Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) have just got in from work & cannot beleive this.....please tell me this isnt true!  well at least matt ford has lived up to his teams nickname....   very disappointed, as someone else mentioned speedway prides itself on being a family sport & a sport that acts like a family - this is just not the case anymore it seems to me  i too am losing interest - tim was often perceived as a stuborn man & not easy to work with - but to his enternal credit he resurrected the wasps from nowhere - and started a traditional winter meeting possibly the two things he will be remebered for - so poole please dont P*** all over that - surely the poole promotion could have mad the effort to stage it at newport if were so upset at tim's passing and donate the takngs to a charity or even upkeep of the stadium tim created?  rant over Edited October 16, 2008 by longlivefrankie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Daley Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 It has always gone out to tender but there was a gentlemans agreement for Newport to run it as they needed the money it generated, so others did not apply. Now that Newort are currently a defunct club what is the point of them still having it? Until they are resurrected why should this meeting also go down the pan?  Nice bit of spin!!  Unbelievable attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 So now Poole are the most needy club then? Â No. But they are the only club who applied to run it. What would you rather have? No meeting in the winter, or the winter meeting all can enjoy and attend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybikespeedway Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 It has always gone out to tender but there was a gentlemans agreement for Newport to run it as they needed the money it generated, so others did not apply. Now that Newort are currently a defunct club what is the point of them still having it? Until they are resurrected why should this meeting also go down the pan?  newport are only a defunct club until probate has finished so until the end of probate nothing should have been announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I think the emotive angle is what is making this announcement worse. Personally, I'm not bothered we're having the meeting, and I'd not be bothered if Newport were. Â But...the question here, and forget my club loyalties for a second, I ask this purely out of curiosity based on the comments posted; but why is it Newport's divine right to hold the winter meeting? I understand that Tim took the risk and the plunge and fair play to him for that, but does that mean that no other club should ever get a look in to hold a meeting over the winter? What if Coventry decided they wanted to; or Ipswich? Why should they be prevented from doing so because another team has the tradition. Times change and perhaps going forward other clubs might want a try for a winter event. I'd be interested in the objective replies without any emotion to do with Tim's untimely death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybikespeedway Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I think the emotive angle is what is making this announcement worse. Personally, I'm not bothered we're having the meeting, and I'd not be bothered if Newport were. Â But...the question here, and forget my club loyalties for a second, I ask this purely out of curiosity based on the comments posted; but why is it Newport's divine right to hold the winter meeting? I understand that Tim took the risk and the plunge and fair play to him for that, but does that mean that no other club should ever get a look in to hold a meeting over the winter? What if Coventry decided they wanted to; or Ipswich? Why should they be prevented from doing so because another team has the tradition. Times change and perhaps going forward other clubs might want a try for a winter event. I'd be interested in the objective replies without any emotion to do with Tim's untimely death. Â totally agree as long as Newport can hold OUR new year classic on 4th jan alongside pooles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 totally agree as long as Newport can hold OUR new year classic on 4th jan alongside pooles  Butu here's the problem. No one wanted to run it at newport. Reading through the Newport thread in the PL section, it seems someone asked the Reading promoters to run it at Newport, but they obviously didn't want to otherwise they would have applied. All this libellous BS about Matt ford applying for the meeting before Tim Stone had been buried is garbage and the writer knows that as well. Posts like that are just set in inflame rather than look at the situation sensibly and logically.  Big bad Poole trample over the small fry clubs. Not true is it? All Matt Ford has done is make sure the event continues whilst Newport find a new owner and once they are back up and running, the chances are it will return there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Butu here's the problem. No one wanted to run it at newport. Reading through the Newport thread in the PL section, it seems someone asked the Reading promoters to run it at Newport, but they obviously didn't want to otherwise they would have applied. All this libellous BS about Matt ford applying for the meeting before Tim Stone had been buried is garbage and the writer knows that as well. Posts like that are just set in inflame rather than look at the situation sensibly and logically. Big bad Poole trample over the small fry clubs. Not true is it? All Matt Ford has done is make sure the event continues whilst Newport find a new owner and once they are back up and running, the chances are it will return there.   It's a good job british speedway has got Poole otherwise it would be in a poor state  Who else could up hold it's morality and principles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlivefrankie Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Butu here's the problem. No one wanted to run it at newport. Reading through the Newport thread in the PL section, it seems someone asked the Reading promoters to run it at Newport, but they obviously didn't want to otherwise they would have applied. All this libellous BS about Matt ford applying for the meeting before Tim Stone had been buried is garbage and the writer knows that as well. Posts like that are just set in inflame rather than look at the situation sensibly and logically. Big bad Poole trample over the small fry clubs. Not true is it? All Matt Ford has done is make sure the event continues whilst Newport find a new owner and once they are back up and running, the chances are it will return there.  but in the the bspa press release it says poole won the race to hold the NYC ? mind you they did antcipate the start a bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 but in the the bspa press release it says poole won the race to hold the NYC ? mind you they did antcipate the start a bit! Â For the umteenth time, Poole were the only club to submit a request to hold the meeting. that's why they won it. Â Why not contact the Reading promotion and ask them why they let your club down by not applying to run it at Newport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Butu here's the problem. No one wanted to run it at newport. Reading through the Newport thread in the PL section, it seems someone asked the Reading promoters to run it at Newport, but they obviously didn't want to otherwise they would have applied. All this libellous BS about Matt ford applying for the meeting before Tim Stone had been buried is garbage and the writer knows that as well. Posts like that are just set in inflame rather than look at the situation sensibly and logically. Big bad Poole trample over the small fry clubs. Not true is it? All Matt Ford has done is make sure the event continues whilst Newport find a new owner and once they are back up and running, the chances are it will return there.  I believe that there is more than a little spin in this statement, which you probably know only too well. The new owner of Newport Speedway asked the Reading Promotional team to run the New Year Classic. That much was reported in the Speedway Star and it would now appear that the meeting had already been allocated to Poole. I was given to understand that the application from Poole was put in very shortly after Tim's death, that may or may not be accurate but I do believe it as it came from a source that I trust. If Matt Ford was being so wonderful and only wanted to make sure the event lived on then he is now in the perfect position to prove it by handing back to the new owner of Newport!  As to the question of why the meeting should stay at Newport. As stated before the whole team there were the only one's willing to put in the huge amount of time and effort to make a meeting at that time of year succesful. Nobody else wanted to run a meeting until somebody else made the format work. Newport Speedway has earned the right to that meeting over the past ten years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlivefrankie Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 jeez never mind ..its the bspa and poole decisions...i hope you enjoy the meeting   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I believe that there is more than a little spin in this statement, which you probably know only too well. The new owner of Newport Speedway asked the Reading Promotional team to run the New Year Classic. That much was reported in the Speedway Star and it would now appear that the meeting had already been allocated to Poole. I was given to understand that the application from Poole was put in very shortly after Tim's death, that may or may not be accurate but I do believe it as it came from a source that I trust. If Matt Ford was being so wonderful and only wanted to make sure the event lived on then he is now in the perfect position to prove it by handing back to the new owner of Newport!  As to the question of why the meeting should stay at Newport. As stated before the whole team there were the only one's willing to put in the huge amount of time and effort to make a meeting at that time of year succesful. Nobody else wanted to run a meeting until somebody else made the format work. Newport Speedway has earned the right to that meeting over the past ten years. Good post Vince And I never thought that I would agree with you on anything as regards Newport  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Really? Must've missed all of these over the last couple of years. Â Me too!! We held part of the world cup 4 years ago!! We also haven't held the ELRC for 4 years either. So am not sure what tanya has based it on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
father jack Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 It has always gone out to tender but there was a gentlemans agreement for Newport to run it as they needed the money it generated, so others did not apply. Now that Newort are currently a defunct club what is the point of them still having it? Until they are resurrected why should this meeting also go down the pan?  Get one thing straight Newport are NOT a defunct club, I resent your asumptions they are. They are tempoarlily inactive due to tragic circumstances, they will start up again. It was to be in January , but Poole jumped in before Tim was even buried, Matt Ford quite frankly gives not only Speedway, but the town of Poole a bad name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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