Bryn Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Is it me or does anybody else feel that there's a fair number of people who have contributed to this thread that really ought to make appointments to see their local optician to get their eyes tested as soon as possible? Quite how anybody can argue against Nicky and Tomasz's exclusions is totally beyond me as they were quite simply the only logical decisions that could be made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 OOOPS sorry thought id joined the GP section but must have clicked on the anti Jason Crupm section by mistake. Oh well I will leave you all to your Very biased chat. One tip please all go to spec savers. THERE WAS CONTACT GET OVER IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Quite how anybody can argue against Nicky and Tomasz's exclusions is totally beyond me as they were quite simply the only logical decisions that could be made! Probably nothing to do with failing eyesight. I think it might have something to do with their country of origin, who their favourite rider is or what team they support. I'm with you Bryn. I thought all the decisions the referee made were spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 "Gollob is a hothead, and always has been". Oh My God, what a load of rubbish. Tomasz is one of the fairest, cleanest, most sporting riders there is. I believe you confuse brilliance on a speedway motor bike with your idea of being a hothead. The only reason he didn't make the final is that he is a true racer who believed he had a clean run on Crump who, having bounced of the fence, had already lost his balance and took a dive when he found Tomasz inside him. The same as Nicki did against Crump. Gollob would have stayed on his bike, Crump decided not to. It was so pleasing tonight to see TG beat Nicki fair and square in Heat 17. Couldn't agree more. It's gonna be a while till I calm down after this semi final, anyway. Roll on Gelsenkirchen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I hadn't seen that. Reported here and also here if your Danish is up to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Reported here and also here if your Danish is up to much. It isn't. As for the Gollob-Crump thing, Gollob was an awful lot harder on Nicki P in the final at Bydgoszcz last season and Nicki P stayed on. I guess it's possible that Crump just hasn't the talent to handle it, but I don't believe that. He just bailed out and hoped for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 OOOPS sorry thought id joined the GP section but must have clicked on the anti Jason Crupm section by mistake. Or pro-Crump section led by biased Belle Vue fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 "Gollob is a hothead, and always has been". Oh My God, what a load of rubbish. Tomasz is one of the fairest, cleanest, most sporting riders there is. Not been around very long, macca56? I don't think Tomas Bajerski would agree with you for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Or pro-Crump section led by biased Belle Vue fans. Nope not biased just how I saw it. Ref got it spot on. Its a bout time as JC has had his fair share of dodge ref decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I personally though Gollob unlucky to be excluded - he had the line into the corner and Crump bailed out and got a re-run without Gollob. Why did Gollob go for it? Well, you only get points in the final now if you finish on the podium and you've a better chance of that if you have an earlier gate pick. Still, the organisors were probably thinking that Crump would win and that it would make Germany a bit more of a contest for the title. But fate dealt them a blow. The only thing of interest in Germany now is the eighth place battle, which Bjarne Pedersen has now entered. Don't talk nonsense - Gollob clearly barged into Crump's front wheel with force. Crump had no chance of staying on his bike. I much admire Gollob - but, in this case, his exclusion was 100% correct. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Anyway, am more than sure that if this had been Bydgoszcz tonight that pathetic guy wouldn't have even thought about making such decision. Otherwise, he would have needed a few SWAT units to leave the stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Anyway, am more than sure that if this had been Bydgoszcz tonight that pathetic guy wouldn't have even thought about making such decision. Otherwise, he would have needed a few SWAT units to leave the stadium If it had been Bydgoszcz I don't think Crump would've gone down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I can understand why so many Polish fans are coming on here defending Gollob, but that facts have to be faced, he is good enough to be world champion....but he does not have the temperment to match his skill, and that's why he will never make it to the very top. And that 's from someone that loves to watch him race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Don't talk nonsense - Gollob clearly barged into Crump's front wheel with force. Crump had no chance of staying on his bike. I much admire Gollob - but, in this case, his exclusion was 100% correct. All the best Rob The only one talking nonsense here is you. But anyone who has ever read one of your posts regarding Lukas Dryml knows that's just about all you're capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb the Snail Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Firstly, I can't find any real fault in any of the refereeing decisions. The only one up for debate was Freddie's exclusion at the start of the meeting, but I guess he was as culpable as anyone. Crump wasn't to blame for either of his 2 incidents. The first saw Nicki return to his Cardiff tactics of falling over in a heap once he'd been out-foxed, and the second was just plain stupidity from Gollob, who recklessly threw away his place in the final (and my money with it)! Elsewhere, very sorry that the race isn't a little closer going to Germany, but at least Nicki still has "work to do". He'll be champion barring a miracle. Credit to Hans, who was right on the pace all night, and looked absolutely delighted to capitalise on Jason's misfortune. The same sentiments to Bjarne, who clearly relished the blue groove. He must have spent most of the evening thinking that he was at Wimborne Road! As for the Clean One, par for his GP course again; decent off red but struggled elsewhere. Bigger fish to fry on Monday methinks. Edited September 27, 2008 by Seb the Snail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Really pleased for Hans tonight. All the descisions probably could have gone either way to be fair. All in all a pretty dull GP racing wise. Lets hope Germany will be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Off to bed now but just wanted to add....Was I the only one who was appauled to hear Tony Millard say it'd be good news for Scott Nicholls if Lindgren was hurt in that crash with Nicki? What sort of stupid comment is that to make? I know we're all supposed to grovel at the feet of the great and mighty Nicholls but FGS, 'hoping' another rider is injured becasue it might help Nicholls is beyond dreadful! Moron! Edited September 27, 2008 by lupus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Anyone know what Gollab said to the ref in polish!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Off to bed now but just wanted to add....Was I the only one who was appauled to hear Tony Millard say it'd be good news for Scott Nicholls if Lindgren was hurt in that crash with Nicki? What sort of stupid comment is that to make? I know we're all supposed to grovel at the feet of the great and mighty Nicholls but FGS, 'hoping' another rider is injured becasue it might help Nicholls is beyond dreadful! Moron! Nope, I heard that too. Remember this is the clown that laughed when Ales Dryml crashed at Oxford and nearly died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 So how are you feeling zonkers now that Hans won and you couldn't get your bet on? Really grumpy.... so happy for Hans - but really p****d off not to have got that bet on. Was seconds away in the end as quickly registered with another.....gutted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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