schumi Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 QUOTE (Rob B @ Sep 27 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Crump was about 3 quarters of a bike length ahead of Pedersen up the inside, Pedersen knew he was passed and leant on him and was going down before they had got to the bend to try and get Crump excluded like he did earlier in the season. Gollob was about half a bike length behind on the inside of Crump and took his leg entering the bend. Crump done a clean pass and Pedersen leaned into him thus causing the crash . Gollob and Crump had a ding-dong battle and were almost neck and neck going into the bend when Gollob's back wheel took Crump's leg away causing the crash . Both Gollob and Pedersen were correctly excluded in both mine ,and more importantly , the referee's opinion . And that's why we post on here - to express our opinion whether others agree or not . I prefer Mateusz's explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I don't mind hard riding, but my abiding memory of tonight will be some really unacceptable riding on the part of Lukas Dryml in the heat against the global superstar and Kasprzak. It was unpardonable. Still, at least a brilliant ride from the global superstar denied Dryml the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I don't mind hard riding, but my abiding memory of tonight will be some really unacceptable riding on the part of Lukas Dryml in the heat against the global superstar and Kasprzak. It was unpardonable. Still, at least a brilliant ride from the global superstar denied Dryml the win. That was unacceptable and downright dangerous from Dryml . Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 i think both Crump situations looked very like. Crump had Nickis leg and got away with it. then it looked like crump was trying to lean towards Gollob aswell but Gollob wasnt there until a few seconds later. When Gollob touched Crumps leg Crump was already going down. So Jason should have bee excluded atleast the second time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Niki,s steel shoe only got stuck in Crumpy,s foot rest because Niki put it there. Both decisions correct by Ref in my book.  Spot on, I agree completely! Nicki can spit his dummy all he likes but he, and only he, caused that crash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Enjoyed that...of course, not swayed at all by the fact that Bjarne did so well Really pleased for him although we said from the start conditions would suit him. Sorry to annoy Sube with the following comment about missing rounds, but makes you wonder where he'd be now if he'd not broken his wrist and missed two. Two average GPs with 5 points each would've seen him inside that top 8. Still, one round to go and it's not impossible. If he doesn't do it, then it's hopefully our gain next year  Felt for Crumpy, but them's the breaks and it leaves it wide open for the last round. Re the Pedersen crash with Lindgren, it just seemed that Nicki's cut back and Jonsson coming up the inside at the same time left Lindgren nowhere to go. Just a racing incident and the right decision to exclude Freddie. With the Crump/Pedersen crash, again the right decision - Nicki did lean on Crump; not the first time he's made a move that like and slid off - Cardiff springs to mind previously. Tough calls but called right tonight I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Spot on, I agree completely! Nicki can spit his dummy all he likes but he, and only he, caused that crash! His rant during his subsequent interview was quite amusing though . Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I don't mind hard riding, but my abiding memory of tonight will be some really unacceptable riding on the part of Lukas Dryml in the heat against the global superstar and Kasprzak. It was unpardonable. Still, at least a brilliant ride from the global superstar denied Dryml the win. Â yeah I definitely agree on that one. He should have been banned from the GP as well as heavy fines and a long withdraw of his license. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Lukas Dryml is fast becoming one of the most dangerous riders in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Still, at least a brilliant ride from the global superstar denied Dryml the win. Â Flippin' heck. Am I seeing things? The word 'brillianti in reference to Scotty in a Subedei post. The world is suddenly off kilter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedropete Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Anyway, congratulations to Hans. Â I would never congratulate him. In Bydgoszcz he was the only rider who refused to sign my flag. Yes it was an English flag but so what, we all wear our country's colour's. There was a lot of us English fans around at the time and everyone was disgusted. In the past I have stuck up for him but never again. He was rude ignorant and if he doesn't like the English he should stay away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupus Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) You'd think, after the serious injuries both Lukas and his brother have had, he'd be a bit less dangerous! Edited September 27, 2008 by lupus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 ...Gollob and Pedersen were correctly excluded in both mine ,and more importantly , the referee's opinion . Â OK! fine, that's your opinion. Mine is that the referee should stick to his guns. If he excluded Pedersen then he should have excluded Crump as weel. OK, Gollob did not have to pass Crump, but having said that he passed Crump clean. There was no contact, and it was not Gollob's fault that Jason decided to hit the deck. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 You'd think, after the serious injuries both he and his brother have had, he'd be a bit less dangerous! Â Agree, but perhaps he's now like that as a result of it all, almost as if he's got some sort of mental switch that's taken place. It's a shame as he's always been a favourite of mine, but he does seem to be getting more reckless. That move was really on the limit and I don't blame Scott for his reaction. When I think how he was before all of his serious injuries, and how he is now...it's like watching two totally different riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 The referee is going to need round the clock police protection if he intends to return to Poland. I think he got both decisions spot on though - a good Polish ref for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervjankefanclub Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 His rant during his subsequent interview was quite amusing though .  As are all his rants mate  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mittwoch Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Spot on, I agree completely! Nicki can spit his dummy all he likes but he, and only he, caused that crash! Â Â Agree Lupus. Trying to turn left on Jason like that. Going for the fall and an exclusion for the other rider again. He does not like it when its done to him does he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I prefer Mateusz's explanation. Thank you   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedropete Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 OK! fine, that's your opinion. Mine is that the referee should stick to his guns. If he excluded Pedersen then he should have excluded Crump as weel. OK, Gollob did not have to pass Crump, but having said that he passed Crump clean. There was no contact, and it was not Gollob's fault that Jason decided to hit the deck. Â I agree Crump went down easily but Tomasz did touch him and he did not need to. We had it replayed lots of times on Sky and there was contact. It was very reckless he was so fast he and should have waited his time. It was a referee decision that could have gone either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 OK! fine, that's your opinion. Mine is that the referee should stick to his guns. If he excluded Pedersen then he should have excluded Crump as weel. OK, Gollob did not have to pass Crump, but having said that he passed Crump clean. There was no contact, and it was not Gollob's fault that Jason decided to hit the deck. Â Do they have different cameras for the Polish feed because there clearly was contact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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