BritPete Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Not for the first time, a rider dominates in his first five rides...but the sixth is a ride too far. How many times have we seen this? and not just in the GP series, but in other meetings as well. How many riders in the GPs, have actually managed to get seven wins out of seven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Lets get back to the fact GREG HANCOCK WON TONIGHTS GP Very true , better get that can of juice dope tested . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Well done to Greg for winning tonight and to Nicki and Tomasz for the runners up. Also well done to Scotty. Couldn't believe it when he won his first 2 rides and he looked really good and quick. Seems like Kelvin Tatum's advice is starting to show signs of improvement. I believe Scott has changed a number of things, due to Kelvin's advice, some of which he didn't like much, but they are now showing good signs. I noticed tonight, he didn't do his normal locking up on bends. I hope he does get into the Top 8 for next years Grand Prix, but if he doesn't it wont be for the want of trying. Well Done Lad, we British Supporters were proud of you tonight and keep up the good work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Lets be fair Scott Nicholls is never going to be World Champion, but tonight he showed us more fire, okay he only just got through the qualifiers, but he made an improvement by reaching the finals. Like Steve Dixon, I am getting fed up Subedei's constant put down of British riders, okay when they have not performed then it is justified, but he beat Adams and Andersen in the semi, when everybody including myself felt that he would not, it is an improvement, and may just give him the extra encouragement on his push for an automatic qualification to next years Grand Prix, if finishes in the top eight then he is there on merit. To be honest the Grand Prix series is getting slightly boring and a bit predictable akin to the Premiership in football, where by you know that deep down that only two or three riders are actually capable of winning the series. Look at the facts since Mark Loram won in 2000, there have been only three winners of the series, Rickardsson, Crump and Pedersen,and the runners up position has taken up by one of these three except for two occasions when Hancock one year and Adams another year. So for the last 7 years ether Rickardsson, Crump or Pedersen have feature in the top two, except for two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervjankefanclub Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) Lets be fair Scott Nicholls is never going to be World Champion, but tonight he showed us more fire, okay he only just got through the qualifiers, but he made an improvement by reaching the finals. Like Steve Dixon, I am getting fed up Subedei's constant put down of British riders, okay when they have not performed then it is justified, but he beat Adams and Andersen in the semi, when everybody including myself felt that he would not, it is an improvement, and may just give him the extra encouragement on his push for an automatic qualification to next years Grand Prix, if finishes in the top eight then he is there on merit. To be honest the Grand Prix series is getting slightly boring and a bit predictable akin to the Premiership in football, where by you know that deep down that only two or three riders are actually capable of winning the series. Look at the facts since Mark Loram won in 2000, there have been only three winners of the series, Rickardsson, Crump and Pedersen,and the runners up position has taken up by one of these three except for two occasions when Hancock one year and Adams another year. So for the last 7 years ether Rickardsson, Crump or Pedersen have feature in the top two, except for two. Que!? Edited September 13, 2008 by mervjankefanclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I agree with you Spin King, it does get boring with the same old faces winning it all the time. But having said that, they are the top riders in the world, so I suppose they are expected to win. I suppose it all depends on how well off some of these riders are and how much money, time and effort they are prepared to put into their racing. Tony Rickardsson was a very well off man and anything he wanted he could have ie new technology etc. You could tell by the way some riders would just turn up for the GPs with bike and van, whilst Tony always had the latest electrical equipment for measuring bikes performance etc, like they have in F1. I believe Nicki is also going that way, he puts everything he has into his equipment to get the latest up to date technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsimpson Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Well done Greg, pleased to see you take another GP win. Gollob and Nicki were entertaining as usual. Thought Hans was poor, expected more from him doesnt seem as fast as he was before moving to the Bees for the end of 2008. Nichols did better than expected. Thought Glob might have enough in the bike to make more of the final, he almost seemed to be playing with the riders through the heats!! Greg's doing a wonderful job for Monster, they must be chuffed to bits with the publicity he is doing for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervjankefanclub Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Tony Rickardsson also happened to be a supremely talented individual on two wheels, you dont win six world titles because you have a few sheckles in your tail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 How many riders in the GPs, have actually managed to get seven wins out of seven? Nicki P and Rickardsson are the two that immediately spring to mind under the current format. I think Gollob might've gone through the card at Bydgoszcz unbeaten under the old format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Tony Rickardsson also happened to be a supremely talented individual on two wheels, you dont win six world titles because you have a few sheckles in your tail Of course, I am not disputing that he was an exceptionally talented rider, there is no doubt about that at all. All I am saying is that if you put the talent and the money together, you have to be onto a winner. I know I will probably get slated for this, but I feel Scott has an awful lot of talent on a speedway bike, he has just learned a lot of bad habits (which I believe Kelvin is trying to put right), but given all the up to date technology and parts, I feel he could be a lot higher up the standings than he is at present. I feel that if he does qualify on merit this year for next year, that we will see a very different Scott Nicholls in next years GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Sub Me old mate....i am afraid all this will lead to one thing...In 30 years time you will look at a Speedway Book and in it ,it will have Scott Nicholls....World Champion.....0 Tomasz Gollob....World Champion.....0 jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Sub Me old mate....i am afraid all this will lead to one thing...In 30 years time you will look at a Speedway Book and in it ,it will have Scott Nicholls....World Champion.....0 Tomasz Gollob....World Champion.....0 jb So pathetic. That book will also have Tomasz Gollob's numerous Grand Prix wins, but will history record your beloved global superstar as the rider to appear in most Grands Prix without winning a single one? So far he's appeared in SIXTY-SIX of them and hasn't won a single one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) Round One goes to jb. Cue Sub................... oh dear too late!! Edited September 13, 2008 by scotty2hotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Round One goes to jb. Cue Sub................... oh dear too late!! Yes, already delivered the knockout blow, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I have friends who know Nicki Pedersen, and they tell me it is down to mentality, Nicki goes into every series, meeting and race believing that he cannot be beaten, he has little care for what anybody else is doing and is supremely confident in his own ability, and he lets nothing get in his way, the guyis totally focused in what has to do. The same people have been in the pits at Cardiff and be chatting to Jason Crump, he was friendly and very chatty up and till it was time for to ride, and he completely changed, again very focussed on what he has to do, and does not let anything get in the way. I would imagine that Rickardsson was the same , and that is what sets them apart from the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 So pathetic. That book will also have Tomasz Gollob's numerous Grand Prix wins, but will history record your beloved global superstar as the rider to appear in most Grands Prix without winning a single one? So far he's appeared in SIXTY-SIX of them and hasn't won a single one. I think that you are missing the point Gollob can win as many Grand Prix's as he or you like there is little chance now of him been World Champion, like Adams a supremely gifted rider, but flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Yes, already delivered the knockout blow, I'm afraid. Lol!! Come on Sub, you got to admit he did do quite well tonight and does seem to be improving. Yes, he still always seems to stumble at the last hurdle, but at least he is getting a lot closer now compared to what he was doing at the start of the year. For what it is worth, I think Tomasz Gollob is a fantastic rider to watch and very skillful. I went to Bydgoszcz last year for my first ever visit and was in awe of the guy, I was up on my feet, going hoarse shouting for him in the Final. I think Tomasz could have been a World Champion and still could, but I sometimes feel his problem is that if he doesn't like the track he doesn't bother. If he put the same amount of effort into all of the other GPs as he does Bydgoszcz, he would be world Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper-racing.co.uk Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Greg's doing a wonderful job for Monster, they must be chuffed to bits with the publicity he is doing for them. monster energy caps and wrisbands as seen in the GP are available from www.starsnbites.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Lol!! Come on Sub, you got to admit he did do quite well tonight and does seem to be improving. Yes, he still always seems to stumble at the last hurdle, but at least he is getting a lot closer now compared to what he was doing at the start of the year. He was outstanding in his first couple of rides, just as he was at Daugavpils. And he did very well to make mugs of Andersen and Adams in the semi-final. But the fact remains that he barely made the semis after appearing home and dry after his first couple of rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Sub Grand Prix wins mean nothing mate......Its who is World Champion that matters....you know that....you are not stupid....well not completely jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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