iris123 Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Reading the latest Speedway World there is a programme from a 1933 World Solo Championship held in Sydney. Can't make it out.Anyone know who won? And how many other World Championships were held that are not officially recognised?Wasn't there one held in France(Paris)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff. Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Reading the latest Speedway World there is a programme from a 1933 World Solo Championship held in Sydney. Can't make it out.Anyone know who won? And how many other World Championships were held that are not officially recognised?Wasn't there one held in France(Paris)? Pre 1936 numerous competitions were held under the guise of "World Championship". Didn't Jack Parker win the Paris one. The annual Star Riders Final was probably the nearest thing to a World Final at the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Reading the latest Speedway World there is a programme from a 1933 World Solo Championship held in Sydney. Can't make it out.Anyone know who won? And how many other World Championships were held that are not officially recognised?Wasn't there one held in France(Paris)? Yes that is quite true as I do have the programme...it was billed as the "Worlds Championship Final" and took place on March 4, 1933. It was won by Harry Whitfield (England) with 9 points from 9...Harry won the qualifier at Perth...also riding were Bluey Wilkinson won won the qualifier at Paris, Billy Lamont who was second in Paris, Dick Smythe who was first in Adelaide, Jack Chapman who won the Melbourne round, Jack Ormston who won Sydney and Lionel Van Praag who was second in Sydney. After the "Worlds championship Final" was a match between New South Wales & The Rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 When the Match Race Championship was first held in 1931 it was originally designated as the World Indivdual Championship. The first holder was Vic Huxley. He was beaten later in the year by Jack Parker, who finished the year as "World Individual Champion". In 1932 it became the British Match Race Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Yes that is quite true as I do have the programme...it was billed as the "Worlds Championship Final" and took place on March 4, 1933. It was won by Harry Whitfield (England) with 9 points from 9...Harry won the qualifier at Perth...also riding were Bluey Wilkinson won won the qualifier at Paris, Billy Lamont who was second in Paris, Dick Smythe who was first in Adelaide, Jack Chapman who won the Melbourne round, Jack Ormston who won Sydney and Lionel Van Praag who was second in Sydney. After the "Worlds championship Final" was a match between New South Wales & The Rest When the Match Race Championship was first held in 1931 it was originally designated as the World Indivdual Championship. The first holder was Vic Huxley. He was beaten later in the year by Jack Parker, who finished the year as "World Individual Champion". In 1932 it became the British Match Race Championship. Interesting.Especially that there were quali rounds in 1933.So a further question then.Who decided what was an official World Championship at the time?Who was running the sport internationally?Or was it just the British promoters at the time that decided their competition was going to be official? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Interesting.Especially that there were quali rounds in 1933.So a further question then.Who decided what was an official World Championship at the time?Who was running the sport internationally?Or was it just the British promoters at the time that decided their competition was going to be official? Can't answer that one......but I have a sneaking suspicion that "Norbold" may know something about it. Over to you Norbold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 While browsing Australian newspapers I came across a couple of interesting snippets 04.11.1926 When it was learned that Spencer Stratton had arrived back from U.S.A the management of the Newcastle speedway immediately booked him up for a special match race with Pat Hamilton, the world's champion, on Saturday night next Now Pat Hamilton did hold what was described as one of the world records, Strattons bike didn't arrive in time and so Hamilton won quite easily with Spencer of somebody elses machine 01.10.1927 The carnival to be held at Newcastle speedway tonight will be a contest to decide who is the best riders of Brisbane, Sydney and Newcastle. Each city is well represented and some fine displays of skilful racing should result. Paddy Dean, who is considered as the world's champion motor cyclist, Is riding to represent Newcastle and looks like carrying off the honours for the coaly city, but he meets serious opposition in Jack Hollis (Brisbane) and L.V-Praag (Sydney) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Came across part heat results for the 1940 Championship in Australia C.Milne 15pt max. L.V.Praag 13, A.Lawson 12, V.Duggan 12, R.Hill 11, C.Parkinson 9, N.Thompson 8, R.Duggan 8, M.Neal 7, F.Dolan 7, K.Blair 4, S.Langton 4, R.Taylor 3, J.Chigwell 1, R.Thomas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 hours ago, iris123 said: Came across part heat results for the 1940 Championship in Australia C.Milne 15pt max. L.V.Praag 13, A.Lawson 12, V.Duggan 12, R.Hill 11, C.Parkinson 9, N.Thompson 8, R.Duggan 8, M.Neal 7, F.Dolan 7, K.Blair 4, S.Langton 4, R.Taylor 3, J.Chigwell 1, R.Thomas 1 When we discuss (as we do from time to time) best rider never to win the world championship, I do think that Cordy Milne should probably head this category as he was almost certainly the best rider in the world in 1939 and 1940. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Certainly takes some doing to go to Australia and beat some of their best, as it seems brother Jack also did twice against possibly a better line up as it looks like some of the top English riders were also there the year before ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 A series of World Championships were held at the Buffalo Stadium, Paris, France, circa 1929 to 1936. Offhand, I think that among its winners were Jack Parker, Jean Landru, Leo Killmayer and Charles 'Pee Wee' Cullum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, gustix said: A series of World Championships were held at the Buffalo Stadium, Paris, France, circa 1929 to 1936. Offhand, I think that among its winners were Jack Parker, Jean Landru, Leo Killmayer and Charles 'Pee Wee' Cullum. Mentioned above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 8/26/2008 at 9:34 PM, andout said: Can't answer that one......but I have a sneaking suspicion that "Norbold" may know something about it. Over to you Norbold. In part answer to the question, at least I have seen mention pre-1928 that the A. C. U were involved in overseeing the sport in Australia, so I guess in those early days what with Australia and GB they had a fair stronghold on the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Found heat details of some of the other Derby meetings 1936 1.V.Huxley,N.Key, S.Langton 2. B.Wilkinson,C.Parkinson.S.Perkins 3.J.Milne, McLachlan, A.Atkinson 4.W.Phillips, D.Haigh, B.Lamont 5. T.Stevenson, F.Pearce 6.M.Grosskreutz, C.Mitchell, R.Stobart Semi finals 1. V.Huxley, B.Wilkinson, C.Mitchell 2.W.Phillips,J.Milne, N.Key 3. M.Grosskreutz, T.Stevenson, C.Parkinson Final M.Grosskreutz, V.Huxley, W.Phillips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) On 8/26/2008 at 3:55 PM, iris123 said: Reading the latest Speedway World there is a programme from a 1933 World Solo Championship held in Sydney. Can't make it out.Anyone know who won? And how many other World Championships were held that are not officially recognised?Wasn't there one held in France(Paris)? I assume you refer to Peter White's 'Australian Speedway World' and not the UK's once much respected but sadly many years closed 'Speedway and Stock Car World'? Over the years they had two top writers in the now sadly both departed Cyril J Hart and Peter Arnold. Edited January 3, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, gustix said: I assume you refer to Peter White's 'Australian Speedway World' and not the UK's once much respected but sadly many years closed 'Speedway and Stock Car World'? Over the years they had two top writers in the now sadly both departed Cyril J Hart and Peter Arnold. What's the confusion iris123? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 The 1937 Derby meeting results Ht 1. B.Wilkinson, T.Croombs, S.Langton Ht 2. W.Little, C.parkinson, A.Fenn Ht 3. V.Huxley, N.Parker Ht 4. V.Duggan, B.McKinney, J.Parker Ht 5. W.Lamoreaux, R.Sulway, D.Case Ht 6. J.Milne, J.Chigwell Semi 1 Wilkinson, McKinney, Little Semi 2. Huxley, Parkinson, Duggan Semi 3. Lamoreaux, J.Milne Final . Wilkinson, Milne, Huxley, Lamoreaux Under adverse conditions, Bluey Wilkinson, after a hard fought battle with Jack Milne won the World's Speedway Derby at the Showground on sunday night. For the last half lap of the race Wilkinson rode on a flat tyre. Wilkinson kept the lead from start to finish.The American Milne was always on his tail. The winners time of 61 sec was the fastest of the night. Vic Duggan, who at the start of the season was riding as a novice did well to beat Byrd McKinney and Jack Parker in the 4th heat, but was eliminated in the semi. He led the field in the consolation scratch, his time was 44.2 for 2 laps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 The format was changed for 1938 Ht 1. B.Wilkinson, C.Mitchell, B.Pitcher Ht 2. J.Milne, C.Parkinson, J.Hancock Ht 3 A.Staham, B.Rogers Ht 4. W.Lamoreaux, W.Lloyd, N.Evans Ht 5. C.Mitchell, B.Pitcher, C.Parkinson Ht 6. J.Parker, D.Sulway, B.Longley Ht 7. B.Wilkinson, C.Spinks, S.Shuetrim Ht 8. J.Milne, A.Statham, B.Rogers Ht 9. W.Lamoreaux, B.Pitcher, F.Dolan Ht 10. B.Rogers, C.Parkinson, R.Duggan Ht 11. J.Milne, C.Mitchell, C.Spinks Ht 12. A.Statham, B.Longley, J.Parker Ht 13. B.Wilkinson, B.Rogers Ht 14. J.Milne, W.Lamoreaux, A.Menzies Ht 15. J.Parker, B.Pitcher, N.Evans Ht 16. A.Staham, C.Mitchell, W.Lloyd Ht 17. W.Lamoreaux, C.Spinks, D.Sulway Ht 18. B.Wilkinson, J.Hancock Top 4 scorers Milne + Wilkinson 12pts, Lamoreaux + Staham 11 pts, qualified for final Final J.Milne, Lammy, Bluey, Statham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 This IMO is the definitive website in regard to unofficial and official world championships: http://www.speedwaychampions.com/world-champions.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 No doubt about it, but I am trying to fill in the gaps and put out information that I haven't seen elsewhere. I have tried to contact Britmet ( we make on-off contact when either needs a bit of help) over the past couple of weeks with no luck. Hope he is just enjoying a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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